How should Christians tell people that their gay loved one's lifestyle is displeasing to God?

[NotTheRock]

My advice? Don't! They'll hate you for it. Besides, would you tell someone that their loved one's frequent drunkenness is displeasing to God?

I know a number of super-nice Christian people whose grown children are gay. They rationalize that it's "ok". I think it's a mistake to tell them otherwise but I also don't want to say "Yea it's fine". I think the best approach is to say "Only Jesus can judge any of us, certainly not me!" and then leave it at that.

Thereafter I believe it's possible to minister to them, and possibly their gay child, and through that gentle approach they may be more receptive to the Holy Spirit, who can take it from there.

Thoughts?

 

[n2thelight]

My advice? Don't! They'll hate you for it. Besides, would you tell someone that their loved one's frequent drunkenness is displeasing to God?

I know a number of super-nice Christian people whose grown children are gay. They rationalize that it's "ok". I think it's a mistake to tell them otherwise but I also don't want to say "Yea it's fine". I think the best approach is to say "Only Jesus can judge any of us, certainly not me!" and then leave it at that.

Thereafter I believe it's possible to minister to them, and possibly their gay child, and through that gentle approach they may be more receptive to the Holy Spirit, who can take it from there.

Thoughts?

Just like you just did, tell them .

 

[Ritajanice]

Proverbs 15

King James Version

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15 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.
3 The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
5 A fool despiseth his father's instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent.
6 In the house of the righteous is much treasure: but in the revenues of the wicked is trouble.
7 The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.
8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.
9 The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the Lord: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.
10 Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
11 Hell and destruction are before the Lord: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?
12 A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.
13 A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.
14 The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness.
15 All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast.
16 Better is little with the fear of the Lord than great treasure and trouble therewith.
17 Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.
18 A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.
19 The way of the slothful man is as an hedge of thorns: but the way of the righteous is made plain.
20 A wise son maketh a glad father: but a foolish man despiseth his mother.
21 Folly is joy to him that is destitute of wisdom: but a man of understanding walketh uprightly.
22 Without counsel purposes are disappointed: but in the multitude of counsellors they are established.
23 A man hath joy by the answer of his mouth: and a word spoken in due season, how good is it!
24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.
25 The Lord will destroy the house of the proud: but he will establish the border of the widow.
26 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the Lord: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.
27 He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.
28 The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
29 The Lord is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.
30 The light of the eyes rejoiceth the heart: and a good report maketh the bones fat.
31 The ear that heareth the reproof of life abideth among the wise.
32 He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.
33 The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.

 

[PossibleThrowawayAccount]

As a gay man in Christ, I personally feel that being gay in itself isn't sinful, and it is not necessarily bad for us to be in relationships the way men and women are.

That aside, Jesus plainly told us to warn people when they sin:

Matthew 18:15-17
15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.

16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’

17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

 

[Pearl]

It's not just people who are gay, the lifestyle of everybody who is not born again is displeasing to God, that's why he gave us Jesus so that we could break away from our sinful ways.
This question about people who have a sexuality differing from heterosexuality is and always has been an old chestnut in the discussion threads of every 'Christian' forum I've ever been a member of.
Out of all the lifestyle choices people make being gay seems to be the most contentious, especially among 'straight' men.

 

[JohnDB]

When you have a genuine real relationship with God...
Sin flees!
Of course all the perversion in your life goes away.

And as far as telling someone that they are sinning?
No need. They KNOW it's sin. Even if they claim that God approves of their perversion. They still know its wrong. They know beyond all shadow of doubt.

 

[Bob]

Thank you for posting this question, and thanks to all of the good answers given so far.

We should not be shy about telling others we try to live by the two great commandments, Love God and Love Your Neighbor.

We should not be shy to say that one of the characteristics of Love Your Neighbor is “embracing the nuclear family as the foundation for the best society.”

The nuclear family starts with a man and a woman in holy matrimony, and any sex outside of marriage undermines God’s plan for the family: not just prostitution and college-dorm shack-ups, but same-sex sex. All of these undermine the community.

For those that say, “How can you criticize a loving same-sex couple that is a solid contributor to a community,” my response is, “Now make the same argument for a group of bisexuals.”

Blessings.

 

[Lambano]

Are the gay folks you have in mind believers?

If not, will their going celibate save them?

 

[Windmill Charge]

Lone does not pick out the lgtb lifestyle as sinful, rather one tal,especially a out sin, what it is, why it separates us from God and that Jesus came to save us from the consequences of our sin.

 

[Taken]

How should Christians tell people that their gay loved one's lifestyle is displeasing to God?

HomoSEXual thoughts, actions, behaviors (per thousands of years) are nothing new…

It “used” to be a sort of “open secret” that no one talked about, discussed, confronted, openly exhibited such behavior.

Then a movement…a change happened…
(Actually quite “speedily” within half a century)… the quips…
* Coming out (of the closet).
* Pride mantra
* Another “forbidden” “thing”, for kids to try.
* Ultimatums for family to Accept, or family would be cut off.
* God issue…God MADE them “that way”, so it is OKAY, and God loves them, so it is OKAY.
* Some…Preachers agreeable to preach THAT message.
* Parents, Siblings fearful to “lose” family member, so begin accepting the homosexual’s terms of their partners’ inclusion.
* Public at Large still “hesitant”.
* Gender Mantra…”lie”…Gender “supposedly” “ASSIGNED” by “human man” at time of natural birth.
* Gender switching, Gender rejecting, attempting to imply male / female irrelevant, thus intermingle sexual behavior choices, should bare no negative consequences, among men, regarding God.
* Infiltration into several generations of children’s minds during their most precious formative years….”nothing new”…the SCHOOLS, whereby young “impressionable” children spend the majority of their lives for 13 + years.

In the broad spectrum…the percentage of homosexuals is still relatively small..per ratio of the whole population.

What has changed (as intended)…is encouraging children to try it, go with their curious instincts, and Families accepting their children’s choices AND partners….to the point of Defense….AND the overflow from FAMILIES ACCEPTANCE to acceptance in the political arena / legislative arena AND religious arena AND the nations arena….

It’s a sort of…another open secret…EVERYONE does NOT “have” to ACCEPT…but if you discuss it, acknowledge it…YOU MUST (hinging BY LAW decree)…MUST appear to Accept it …. BY NOT speaking AGAINST it….or suffer mans “consequence” against you.

The WHOLE “issue” is A HOAX…

* Men do NOT “ASSIGN” gender at natural birth…They Discover the Gender and make a DOCUMENTED recording of their Discovery!

* God Created human beings, and Knew them BEFORE the world was…

* God Forms a human being, in the womb of a FEMALE whose Egg has been fertilized by the seed of a human MALE.

* At the REVEAL (birth) of the human being, God Makes that “independent” (separated from dependency (for nutrients and waste disposal) on the Female),
Human being…own independent BODY capable of :
Life sustaining Intake ability
Life sustaining waste disposal ability.
and equally important
That individual “human beings” ability to
Communicate
….via receipt of a SOUL from God…
Eyes…..see
Ears……hear
Mouth…utters sound
Tongue..tastes
Nose…..smells
Flesh…..feels touch

Male or Female…they each receive “communication” abilities.
Male or Female….
Male bodies each receive their own Seeds; (sperm)
Female bodies each receive their own Seeds;
(Ovum)
MAKING EACH…prepared to reproduce their same KIND of things…(called humans).

Pretending a FEMALE is a MALE, by declaration…and then (potentially) claiming a “MALE” delivered forth a “human KIND of being”….is more rubbish to promote as acceptable.

And when GENERATIONS are regarded as Upstanding, (even rewarded) for believing and promoting a LIE…they simply DO NOT HAVE THE TRUTH IN THEM…

All seeds belong to God…He determines, He assigns, He reveals for men to Discover what He has CREATED and MADE.

1 Cor 15:
[38] But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

As far as Homosexual who attempt to change into a LIE…Gods Creation and Making ……. AND ……. Those who are tempted, who go along with…..the Lie….

HOW TO TeLL another?

——-> Scriptural Literature…

Romans Chapter 1…is an excellent lesson for
They WHO have concluded God is Silent (regarding consequences) from WHAT men think, believe, do… / AND Accept. (Ie Rom 1:32)


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Bob]

Lone does not pick out the lgtb lifestyle as sinful, rather one tal,especially a out sin, what it is, why it separates us from God and that Jesus came to save us from the consequences of our sin.

Thank you for your reply.

You have a good heart, and are trying to communicate positively, but your misspellings and fragments are not easy for me to decipher. Would you consider rereading what you just wrote and edit it appropriately? Would you also consider rereading/editing all of your drafts before posting?

Blessings.

 

[NotTheRock]

It's not just people who are gay, the lifestyle of everybody who is not born again is displeasing to God, that's why he gave us Jesus so that we could break away from our sinful ways.
This question about people who have a sexuality differing from heterosexuality is and always has been an old chestnut in the discussion threads of every 'Christian' forum I've ever been a member of.
Out of all the lifestyle choices people make being gay seems to be the most contentious, especially among 'straight' men.

So true. Thank you. However, the LGBT community has not been shy about shoving their lifestyles down everybody's proverbial throats and DEMANDING, with threats of loss of jobs, etc., to celebrate homosexuality - or else!

 

[Pearl]

So true. Thank you. However, the LGBT community has not been shy about shoving their lifestyles down everybody's proverbial throats and DEMANDING, with threats of loss of jobs, etc., to celebrate homosexuality - or else!

I so agree @NotTheRock

 

[Raccoon1010]

I always wonder why homosexual discussions come up on these forums. There is probably no reason for it other than to open the door to the idea and toxic promotion of homosexuality among the Christian communities. I know I posted about the dark forces that desire people to focus on negativity including fear they call anxiety. They open discussions on the issues. The correct direction is to seek God and his courage and let go of fear. Eventual release from the mind and heart God can heal. Probably the agenda is also to deter Christians from proclaiming the Gospel as presented in the bible. There has been a recent attempt to distort Christianity into a new age leaving behind important truths in an attempt to ignore proper history.

I know on some other forum when I posted some of the disturbing conditions about some of the homosexual areas of non-healthy behavior that I got warned and silenced. And I know that was sort of a creepy site already in the liberal areas as it was discussed by other members.

One website reports that about 5.5% of the United States identifies as LGBT which is already out of control as a sexual dysfunction area. Adult LGBT Population in the United States

The truth is that we as Christians should invite all God's human creations into the gospel of God under Jesus the Christ his Son. But we should draw the line as priests and members in congregations from allowing the flawed examples of LGBT conduct. God created biologic and physical male-female identity and that is commanded forth in the bible under witness from God to his chosen people. If homosexuals are confessing their sins and desiring the change in their deceptive conduct towards a God given example as testified in the bible then that should not be a problem that they do not encourage homosexual examples among the congregations of God.

 

[Br4nd0n]

would you tell someone that their loved one's frequent drunkenness is displeasing to God?

I would tell them that they are an alcoholic and it is very bad for their base-line mood to keep drinking and if it progresses enough, they will wind up in jail or the grave.

But for myself in the original question posited, if the Spirit leads me to witness to a homosexual, then i hope i would be sharp enough to do so, in hearing the calling and letting the Lord guide my tongue.