Hope For Felled Tree To Sprout From Its Stump

[Stumpmaster]

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Job 14:7-9 in the King James Version (KJV):
"For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease. Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground; Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant."1
This passage is often interpreted as a metaphor for resilience and renewal, suggesting that even when things seem bleak, there is potential for new growth and revival.

Jamieson-Fauset-Brown Commentary: Job 14:7
Man may the more claim a peaceful life, since, when separated from it by death, he never returns to it. This does not deny a future life, but a return to the present condition of life. Job plainly hopes for a future state (Job 14:13, Job 7:2,). Still, it is but vague and trembling hope, not assurance; excepting the one bright glimpse in Job 19:25. The Gospel revelation was needed to change fears, hopes, and glimpses into clear and definite certainties.

How do you interpret this verse?

 

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Job 14:7-9 in the King James Version (KJV):
"For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease. Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground; Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant."1
This passage is often interpreted as a metaphor for resilience and renewal, suggesting that even when things seem bleak, there is potential for new growth and revival.

Jamieson-Fauset-Brown Commentary: Job 14:7
Man may the more claim a peaceful life, since, when separated from it by death, he never returns to it. This does not deny a future life, but a return to the present condition of life. Job plainly hopes for a future state (Job 14:13, Job 7:2,). Still, it is but vague and trembling hope, not assurance; excepting the one bright glimpse in Job 19:25. The Gospel revelation was needed to change fears, hopes, and glimpses into clear and definite certainties.

How do you interpret this verse?

That a mature tree cut down with it root ball remaining in tact, may quite likely resprout as a young tree or IF the trunk is still intact the trunk likely sprout new growth….

There is evidence much depends on the species of the tree…. Some “ever greens” will and some will not resprout from the root ball, or from the trunk. Hardwoods, typically will resprout.
I have thousands of trees and have witnessed such happenings.
During the effects of a hurricane a few weeks ago…I witnessed about 20 65ft’ + trees topple, and the root ball uplifted..don’t expect a regrowth.

There may be a parallel regarding manKIND…off hand I do not know.

God Bless you.
Glory to God

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[Stumpmaster]

That a mature tree cut down with it root ball remaining in tact, may quite likely resprout as a young tree or IF the trunk is still intact the trunk likely sprout new growth….

There is evidence much depends on the species of the tree…. Some “ever greens” will and some will not resprout from the root ball, or from the trunk. Hardwoods, typically will resprout.
I have thousands of trees and have witnessed such happenings.
During the effects of a hurricane a few weeks ago…I witnessed about 20 65ft’ + trees topple, and the root ball uplifted..don’t expect a regrowth.

There may be a parallel regarding manKIND…off hand I do not know.

God Bless you.
Glory to God

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Yes, my pic is of a Silk Tree (Albizia julibrissin) which has no problem sprouting from its stump when reduced to it.

Silk Tree: Pea Family Albizia​

I heard a message preached on this Scripture which was intended to inspire hope in those who had suffered failure, loss, deprivation, and setback.

 

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Yes, my pic is of a Silk Tree (Albizia julibrissin) which has no problem sprouting from its stump when reduced to it.

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Silk Tree: Pea Family Albizia​

I heard a message preached on this Scripture which was intended to inspire hope in those who had suffered failure, loss, deprivation, and setback.

Pretty tree…and gotcha on the Analogy…Nice.

God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Stumpmaster]

Pretty tree…and gotcha on the Analogy…Nice.

God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken

The full gist of Job's reasoning in Chapter 14 is to contrast the observation that a tree can come back to life, with the question of whether a person can do the same.

Job 14:10 But a man dies and is laid low; he breathes his last, and where is he?

 

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The full gist of Job's reasoning in Chapter 14 is to contrast the observation that a tree can come back to life, with the question of whether a person can do the same.

Job 14:10 But a man dies and is laid low; he breathes his last, and where is he?

I believe every individual has a specific “purpose”, regardless if they figure it out or not.

Paralleling…a man and a tree;

A tree healthy…then trimmed…sometimes then thrives…or could die…
A seemingly healthy man…perhaps chunky, trims down…could then thrive…or could die (having organ disease unbeknownst).

A tree cut..more drastic than trimming (as in your photo) MAY or MAY Not resprout, depending on Species, cause, disease, healthy but obstructing a building, view etc.
A man cut..ore drastic…limbs, will not regrow, but can survive. Organs can in some cases with intervention, regrow. Fingers, in some cases can regrow..
(Personal case, our 3 yrs old cut tip of her finger off with a knife…took her, finger tip to ER…Dr cleaned, bandaged, did not attempt to reattach, said because she was 3 or less it would regrow….it did. Don”t now the science behind that…but do know, severed “limbs, fingers” that still have a small amount of tissue still attached, is a good candidate for successful reattachment).
Regarding trees…a tree damaged…bumped by a car for example, section of bark comes off trunk…it may heal over time, scar…. Or a section of bark (like from a branch or felled tree) of the same species, can be a patch of bark “grafted” to the damaged tree and over time the that spot healed.

The parallels are similar IMO….as each…trees or humans many encounter stress difficulties from injuries and recover….Gods purposed outcome.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[charity]

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Job 14:7-9 in the King James Version (KJV):
How do you interpret this verse?

'For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down,
that it will sprout again,
and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
'Though the root thereof wax old in the earth,
and the stock thereof die in the ground;
Yet through the scent of water it will bud,
and bring forth boughs like a plant.
But man dieth, and wasteth away:
yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
As the waters fail from the sea,
and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
So man lieth down, and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!'
(Job 14:7-14)

'For I know that my redeemer liveth,
and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
And though after my skin worms destroy this body,
yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Whom I shall see for myself,
and mine eyes shall behold, and not another;
though my reins be consumed within me.'
(Job 19:25-27)

 

[Stumpmaster]

I believe every individual has a specific “purpose”, regardless if they figure it out or not.

Paralleling…a man and a tree;

A tree healthy…then trimmed…sometimes then thrives…or could die…
A seemingly healthy man…perhaps chunky, trims down…could then thrive…or could die (having organ disease unbeknownst).

A tree cut..more drastic than trimming (as in your photo) MAY or MAY Not resprout, depending on Species, cause, disease, healthy but obstructing a building, view etc.
A man cut..ore drastic…limbs, will not regrow, but can survive. Organs can in some cases with intervention, regrow. Fingers, in some cases can regrow..
(Personal case, our 3 yrs old cut tip of her finger off with a knife…took her, finger tip to ER…Dr cleaned, bandaged, did not attempt to reattach, said because she was 3 or less it would regrow….it did. Don”t now the science behind that…but do know, severed “limbs, fingers” that still have a small amount of tissue still attached, is a good candidate for successful reattachment).
Regarding trees…a tree damaged…bumped by a car for example, section of bark comes off trunk…it may heal over time, scar…. Or a section of bark (like from a branch or felled tree) of the same species, can be a patch of bark “grafted” to the damaged tree and over time the that spot healed.

The parallels are similar IMO….as each…trees or humans many encounter stress difficulties from injuries and recover….Gods purposed outcome.

Glory to God,
Taken

Just so. Still, Job was in a situation where contemplating the fact that everyone eventually dies also raised the question of life after death.

 

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Just so. Still, Job was in a situation where contemplating the fact that everyone eventually dies also raised the question of life after death.

I believe YES…”FOR” those who believed ‘IN’ God and His word…..(even if they knew not His words NAME … after 4000 years revealed His name JESUS.

They who are with God…Become “His inheritance”….Who doesn’t want to miss out on receiving their inheritance ?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[CC7799]

'For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down,
that it will sprout again,
and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
'Though the root thereof wax old in the earth,
and the stock thereof die in the ground;
Yet through the scent of water it will bud,
and bring forth boughs like a plant.
But man dieth, and wasteth away:
yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
As the waters fail from the sea,
and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
So man lieth down, and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!'
(Job 14:7-14)

'For I know that my redeemer liveth,
and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
And though after my skin worms destroy this body,
yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Whom I shall see for myself,
and mine eyes shall behold, and not another;
though my reins be consumed within me.'
(Job 19:25-27)

Agree

 

[charity]

'O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!'

@Stumpmaster
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The hope is for resurrection life, at that time of God's choosing, not life immediately after death as some believe.

 

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'O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!'

@Stumpmaster
@Taken

The hope is for resurrection life, at that time of God's choosing, not life immediately after death as some believe.

Man is more than a body.
Man….an intricate body <- life BLOOD
Man….has a living soul<- life Gods BREATH
Man….has a natural spirit<- hearts TRUTH

All Body’s SHALL die (God requires it)
All Dead bodys rot, return to dust of the Earth.
All Living souls depart dead body's.
(Saved living souls rise up to Heaven.
(Un-saved living souls descend into Hell
All natural spirits of a human DIES with their body.
All natural spirits RE-BORN of Gods Seed, depart a dead body and rise up to heaven.

THUS…
* IMMEDIATELY after bodily Death Saved Living souls rise up to heaven;

* IMMEDIATELY after bodily death unsaved living souls descend down to Hell

* IMMEDIATELY after bodily Death;
Dead body’s…within days (are buried, entombed, cremated, left unattended and naturally decay, eaten by animals, etc.

* IMMEDIATELY after bodily death QUICKENED spirits depart the body and rise up to Heaven.

* WHEN…the “Lord” Calls UP “HIS” faithful “IN CHRIST”….THEN shall the RESURRECTION of a BODY DEAD “IN” Christ…RISE UP to meet the Lord, WHERE He “IS”.

* WHEN….”God” Calls UP “HIS” faithful “IN JESUS”…. THEN shall the RESURRECTION of a BODY DEAD “IN” Jesus….RISE UP to meet God, WHERE He “IS”.

RESURRECTION …is expressly about raising UP A body….by, through, of and WHEN according to the Power and Authority OF the Lord or OF God.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

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Job 14:7-9 in the King James Version (KJV):
"For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease. Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground; Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant."1
This passage is often interpreted as a metaphor for resilience and renewal, suggesting that even when things seem bleak, there is potential for new growth and revival.

Jamieson-Fauset-Brown Commentary: Job 14:7
Man may the more claim a peaceful life, since, when separated from it by death, he never returns to it. This does not deny a future life, but a return to the present condition of life. Job plainly hopes for a future state (Job 14:13, Job 7:2,). Still, it is but vague and trembling hope, not assurance; excepting the one bright glimpse in Job 19:25. The Gospel revelation was needed to change fears, hopes, and glimpses into clear and definite certainties.

How do you interpret this verse?

It is an interesting statement in Job. Job was I'm sure loved by God and it was not only a lesson for Job, but also Satan and Job's relations on earth. It must have been very painful and troubling what Job went thru and I don't wish that on anyone.

The scripture of death and regrowth may also relate to Jesus the Christ and the olive branch and tree and grafting, etc. Jesus died and was later resurrected to new life for us God's children. It is a wonderful message in Job and he certainly bore his infirmities and damages well. I am not of the quality of person that Job was. It is an inspiration certainly.

Cheers!

 

[charity]

Man is more than a body.
Man….an intricate body <- life BLOOD
Man….has a living soul<- life Gods BREATH
Man….has a natural spirit<- hearts TRUTH

All Body’s SHALL die (God requires it)
All Dead bodys rot, return to dust of the Earth.
All Living souls depart dead body's.
(Saved living souls rise up to Heaven.
(Un-saved living souls descend into Hell
All natural spirits of a human DIES with their body.
All natural spirits RE-BORN of Gods Seed, depart a dead body and rise up to heaven.

THUS…
* IMMEDIATELY after bodily Death Saved Living souls rise up to heaven;

* IMMEDIATELY after bodily death unsaved living souls descend down to Hell

* IMMEDIATELY after bodily Death;
Dead body’s…within days (are buried, entombed, cremated, left unattended and naturally decay, eaten by animals, etc.

* IMMEDIATELY after bodily death QUICKENED spirits depart the body and rise up to Heaven.

* WHEN…the “Lord” Calls UP “HIS” faithful “IN CHRIST”….THEN shall the RESURRECTION of a BODY DEAD “IN” Christ…RISE UP to meet the Lord, WHERE He “IS”.

* WHEN….”God” Calls UP “HIS” faithful “IN JESUS”…. THEN shall the RESURRECTION of a BODY DEAD “IN” Jesus….RISE UP to meet God, WHERE He “IS”.

RESURRECTION …is expressly about raising UP A body….by, through, of and WHEN according to the Power and Authority OF the Lord or OF God.


Glory to God,
Taken

'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.' (Gen. 2:7)

'And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul;
the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.'
(1Cor.15:45)

'Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.'
(Ecc 12:7)

'Thy dead men shall live,
together with my dead body shall they arise.
Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust:
for thy dew is as the dew of herbs,
and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Come, My People, enter thou into thy chambers, (the grave)
and shut thy doors about thee:
hide thyself as it were for a little moment,
until the indignation be overpast.
For, behold, the LORD cometh out of His place
to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity:
the earth also shall disclose her blood,
and shall no more cover her slain.'
(Isa 26:19-21)

Only by God's resurrection power will the dead be quickened into life, and rise from the dead. on that day of God's choosing.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Now risen and glorified.
and seated at God's right hand.
Chris

 

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'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.' (Gen. 2:7)

'And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul;
the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.'
(1Cor.15:45)

'Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.'
(Ecc 12:7)

'Thy dead men shall live,
together with my dead body shall they arise.
Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust:
for thy dew is as the dew of herbs,
and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Come, My People, enter thou into thy chambers, (the grave)
and shut thy doors about thee:
hide thyself as it were for a little moment,
until the indignation be overpast.
For, behold, the LORD cometh out of His place
to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity:
the earth also shall disclose her blood,
and shall no more cover her slain.'
(Isa 26:19-21)

Yes….God Created….AND….Made
Creation WAS established…very good.
Making WAS…very good.
The very good…became corrupted.
The Making and RE-making continues…returning the “willing” back to the status of ….
very good.

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taen