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[face2face]

There is not a single conclusive Scripture that tells us directly and absolutely that Christ is anything but what he called himself….”the son of God”…..I’ll take his word for it. Yahweh is his God and always has been.

That is from the time of his birth to everlasting...like all of us God willing

 

[face2face]

You tell me whether Almighty God can have two other equal gods as himself in heaven….and please provide the Scripture that says so…but not ones that infer what the words do not say. The Jews were taught from their Hebrew Scriptures……Jesus was Jewish and he was sent to Jews to preach about their God….he did not alter what those Scriptures taught. (Deut 6:4)

This is very true! - like Paul said, he was chained to the hope of Israel and all the promises in Christ are yes.

 

[Ritajanice]

That's about Jesus proving to His disciples that He was really resurrected; not an illusion, not a phantom, not a ghost.

As for flesh and blood not inheriting the Kingdom (1 Corinthians 15:50, let's go back a few verses:



I have no concept of what a "pneumatikon" body is like, but whatever it is, Jesus had one post resurrection.

Jesus was truly resurrected, indeed,

Acts 1:9-12​

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King James Version​

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9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.




I didn’t understand ,when he said feel my flesh...my opinion is, his resurrection body ,glorified body, most definitely wasn’t like our flesh and bones, as our bodies are corruptible,but,when we become Born Again, even though we live in a body of sin, our spirit has been brought from death to life, we have been Born Again not Of perishable seed, but of imperishable seed, we as the Born Again ,after death our glorified bodies ,they will be incorruptible ,just like Jesus resurrected body,

Jesus body that ascended into heaven, was , pure, Holy, incorruptible body ,he is now seated at the right hand of God..there is NO Name on earth or in heaven that will ever be above His Name!....He is our leader for now and forever, In Jesus Name..Amen.

As Hebrews 10:12-13notes, “But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet.” Because Jesus reigns along with God the Father Almighty who created and rules over the world



Thank you for taking the time to voice your opinion and post scripture.as did I .

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1 Peter 1:23 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. New Living Translation For you have been born again, but not to a life that will quickly end. Your new life will last forever because it comes from the eternal, living word of God. English Standard Version since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God; Berean Standard Bible For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God

Thank you also for voiding your opinion on what you believe.

Gods word also says.​

◄ 1 Corinthians 15:50 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. New Living Translation What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever. English Standard Version I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Berean Standard Bible Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

 

[Fred J]

“I can do nothing on my own.

Apparently yes, because He is the image of the invisible GOD and the Word of GOD. Where only the FATHER's will be done and not His, therefore the Son can do nothing on His own.

When he receive the commandment from the FATHER, He is likewise permitted, but humbly to exalt Himself truthfully. As an individual who is the Son equal to GOD HIS FATHER in Heaven, His ability, power, and coheir of all things.

One example, He claimed, "I and the FATHER are one." He was shrewd enough to claim putting Himself first, and then the FATHER, cum, are one. Normally a true humble and servant character of this world would claim, "My father and I are one, or my wife and I are one."

The Word, Lord of Heaven, laid aside His Majesty in Heaven and became a man like us. The reason is to take upon Himself our transgressions and iniquities, due judgement for eternal damnation and separation. Hence, lived and experienced humanly on our behalf the FATHER's curse, punishment and wrath which we wretched deserve and due to fall upon us assuredly.

Faced all the shame, ridicule, curse and humiliation, we wretched sinners cast upon Him, thinking He's smitten of GOD for His trespasses. Even though then He did not get even with us, but yet in pain and agony, until His last breath, pleaded to the FATHER. For HIM to show mercy on us and for our forgiveness, even claiming, we knew not what we do.

Mind you, the ministry of the Gospel proclaiming Grace and Truth was undertaken by the Word who became Jesus. Whilst, the Power of GOD the Holy Spirit was in Him to perform Kingdom signs and wonders for deliverance and so. But the weight, burden and consequences for the sins of the world, was laid upon Himself without help, even by the Holy Ghost.

Yet there were consoling of angels, saints, the Holy Ghost, and the FATHER, comforted Him. Since ahead, on His own power and human ability, is going to drink from the cup of suffering. Which no man, saints, angels, the Holy Ghost or the FATHER, able and can accomplish. Meaning, the Holy Ghost and the FATHER have their role and limitation on the matters of Salvation. Also on moreover what the Son on His own is going to achieve and accomplish for the dead to rise (In other words, dry bones becoming flesh).
That's why obviously the Glorious Son had to cry out as darkness covered over Him and the nation. Saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"

Am not witnessing the scripture contextual truth about the Son on my own, but with the FATHER and Holy Ghost as witnesses. Merely serving you who believe, coherent and in union, bringing to your remembrance, stir up of memory, and edification.

2 Corinthians 10:
17. But he that glories, let him glory in the Lord.

You who limit the Son, got to learn than teach. least be haughty and wise in your own conceit, ridicule the Lord and His servants! Apparently, you're 'heart hardened' sticking to your out of context 'shortsighted' vision folly and twisted dogma. Which even the unbelievers have caught on too in ridicule, especially muslims, ridiculing as well.

Compared to the contextual truth that's afar and Glorious where only true born again can see and enter in faith.

Philippians 2:
5. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6. Who being in the form of GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with GOD:
7. But made Himself of no reputation, and took on Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8. And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the cross.

Hello!

We're testifying about the Word and Lord of Heaven, in beginning He hast laid the foundation of the earth. And the Heavens are the works of His hands. His Throne as God, is for ever and ever, a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of His Kingdom. He hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity, therefore as God, even His FATHER GOD, hath anointed Him with the oil of gladness, above His fellows.

Again, this is the Majesty the Word and Lord laid aside and became man name, Jesus. Whilst, taking upon Himself the lowest position and from of life, dwelling among men. Set an example for all men, as a man how is it to be obedient to every word proceeded out of GOD, and serve only HIM, forsaking the flesh.

Taking our place as sinner instead, cried out to GOD, as GOD's Holiness, Righteousness and Justice pierced Him and not us. Yet, we 'mocked', 'scoffed', 'ridicule', 'insult', 'complain', 'murmur', 'grumble', 'waved our head and fist in disgust', 'advice', and even 'murdered' GOD in the end. (Isaiah 53)

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[face2face]

Apparently yes, because He is the image of the invisible GOD and the Word of GOD. Where only the FATHER's will be done and not His, therefore the Son can do nothing on His own.

Interesting, so you admit he had "will" which was not his Fathers?

Talk some more to me about that.

Where did such a will come from?

F2F

 

[Rita]

We risk getting the topic shut down. (locked)

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Some threads slip through - but today I happened to read this one. @face2face - using the ‘T ‘ instead of the word - you think that hides the actual word. !!!
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