Examining the supposed "Whole Bible" view. - No consensus?
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From the OP.
Seems too many make an idol of their personal interpretation of the Bible.
Claiming theirs is the only truth and that others are "of the devil" because their view differs.
What's wrong with this picture? Misplaced allegiance. Religious fiefdoms.
Building walls, instead of bridges.
- What is the purpose of the Bible?
- Should the Bible be used to cause division?
- Where is your allegiance ultimately?
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Seems too many make an idol of their personal interpretation of the Bible.
Claiming theirs is the only truth and that others are "of the devil" because their view differs.
What's wrong with this picture? Misplaced allegiance. Religious fiefdoms.
Building walls, instead of bridges.
- What is the purpose of the Bible?
- Should the Bible be used to cause division?
- Where is your allegiance ultimately?
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Seems too many make an idol of their personal interpretation of the Bible.
Claiming theirs is the only truth and that others are "of the devil" because their view differs.
What's wrong with this picture? Misplaced allegiance. Religious fiefdoms.
Building walls, instead of bridges.
- What is the purpose of the Bible?
- Should the Bible be used to cause division?
- Where is your allegiance ultimately?
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Claiming theirs is the only truth and that others are "of the devil" because their view differs.
What's wrong with this picture? Misplaced allegiance. Religious fiefdoms.
Building walls, instead of bridges.
- What is the purpose of the Bible?
- Should the Bible be used to cause division?
- Where is your allegiance ultimately?
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I encounter this statement a lot...
Someone discounts a scripture I quote as
not possibly meaning what it plainly says because...
It doesn't fit the "whole Bible" view. ???
As if there is consensus on what that even means,
- Is there such a thing as a "whole Bible" view?
- Is there consensus on what that means?
- Is there reasonable latitude in what that could mean?
It's not enough to simply claim, "Whatever the Bible says."
Doesn't seem to be enough consensus to make such a broad claim. ???
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Someone discounts a scripture I quote as
not possibly meaning what it plainly says because...
It doesn't fit the "whole Bible" view. ???
As if there is consensus on what that even means,
- Is there such a thing as a "whole Bible" view?
- Is there consensus on what that means?
- Is there reasonable latitude in what that could mean?
It's not enough to simply claim, "Whatever the Bible says."
Doesn't seem to be enough consensus to make such a broad claim. ???
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David Lamb
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I don't know whether there is such a thing as a whole bible view, unless it means the need, especially with passages that are difficulty to understand, to compare the passage we are reading/studying with the rest of scriptural teaching. For example, these words of Jesus:
“"If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.” (Lu 14:26 NKJV)
Taken in isolation, that verse seems to have Jesus teaching that in order to be Christians, we must actively hate our nearest and dearest. However, when we look at scriptural teaching about what our attitude to our parents should be, we find that that cannot be the case. Also, when we look at the equivalent account in Matthew, we find the meaning to be clearer:
“"He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.” (Mt 10:37 NKJV)
Behold
Well-Known Member
Agree.
Too often the "whole Bible" view is presented as a subjective rather than objective stance.
But as you demonstrated, it requires some work and discussion of opinion to arrive there.
Results may vary. - LOL
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Behold
Well-Known Member
One of the reasons that most Christians are stuck in the dark, and can't deal with the bible, is because they are stranded in their carnal mind, believing that the word of God can be assessed by "objective or subjective" analysis.
shepherdsword
Active Member
I think context is vital to any accurate interpretation of the bible. However, there are times when certain verses have a GLOBAL context and CAN be taken out of their intended context. Example:
Revelation 3: Behold, I stand at the door and knock, if any man hear my voice I will come in and sup with him
Technically, the context is to actual believers in Ephesus. However, we can cite this verse in a gospel message to the unsaved because it applies to all men. Trusting in the bible is not misplaced allegiance. It is the word of God. There is a much greater danger in having an allegiance to some pontificated verbal tradition.
Mk 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
ScottA
Well-Known Member
Scripture, the word of God, i.e. the Bible, is like a glacier ticking down ever so slowly "precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little there a little." Only some of which is visible or written in full measure. And that portion of all that is actually written? Is confused [by God] right along with all "the language of all the earth."
The point is...we should understand that--it is intentionally so.
So, yes, the Bible (for one) can itself become an idol, or a weapon, or a stronghold, or even a place of hiding.
More importantly, the words "are spirit"--and just as Jesus identified the means by which He would build His church, speaking to Peter and how he had come to the knowledge that Jesus was the Christ--not by flesh and blood, was by the unwritten words that come from our Father in heaven. Again, meaning--only some of the words are written as we define what is written, as on parchment or paper.
Why then should we argue or debate over the wording? Perhaps we should not. Perhaps we should know better than to let the devil tempt us so. Perhaps we need to be reminded that "we do not wrestle against flesh and blood" or each other. But just as the words from God are inspired, are not also the rebuttals. Surely some are. But when these things were young, what clarifying voice did God provide? Men studying and debating like lawyers stating their case? No.
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