Easter Celebrations are Worship of the Sun

[Hobie]

...and pagan symbols to say nothing of the rites and rituals. If one looks, they will see the origins of Easter are found in a pagan festival celebration of seasonal renewal that has taken place around the time of the Spring Equinox. The date upon which Easter is held varies from year to year, and corresponds with the first Sunday following the full moon after the March equinox.

Here is a good explanation.. "Easter is one of Christianity’s highest and holiest days, the celebration of the resurrection of Jesus. But the origins of today’s very Christian holiday are firmly rooted in the ancient traditions of pagan religions from many parts of the world. With its blend of solemn religious symbolism and the fun of Easter eggs and bunny rabbits, Easter as we know it is a patchwork of beliefs and practices related to the themes of springtime, rebirth, and renewal....

Easter doesn’t fall on the same date every year. Thus, even this aspect of the holiday is connected with pagan celebrations of the cycles of nature. The vernal equinox marks the time when night and day are of equal length. It’s also a celebration by pagan cultures to welcome the arrival of the long days of spring and summer."

And more..."Easter is a pagan festival. If Easter isn't really about Jesus, then what is it about? Today, we see a secular culture celebrating the spring equinox, whilst religious culture celebrates the resurrection. However, early Christianity made a pragmatic acceptance of ancient pagan practises, most of which we enjoy today at Easter. The general symbolic story of the death of the son (sun) on a cross (the constellation of the Southern Cross) and his rebirth, overcoming the powers of darkness, was a well worn story in the ancient world. There were plenty of parallel, rival resurrected saviours too.

The Sumerian goddess Inanna, or Ishtar, was hung naked on a stake, and was subsequently resurrected and ascended from the underworld. One of the oldest resurrection myths is Egyptian Horus. Born on 25 December, Horus and his damaged eye became symbols of life and rebirth. Mithras was born on what we now call Christmas day, and his followers celebrated the spring equinox. Even as late as the 4th century AD, the sol invictus, associated with Mithras, was the last great pagan cult the church had to overcome. Dionysus was a divine child, resurrected by his grandmother. Dionysus also brought his mum, Semele, back to life.

In an ironic twist, the Cybele cult flourished on today's Vatican Hill. Cybele's lover Attis, was born of a virgin, died and was reborn annually. This spring festival began as a day of blood on Black Friday, rising to a crescendo after three days, in rejoicing over the resurrection. ....."http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/apr/03/easter-pagan-symbolism

 

[Hobie]

Has anybody noticed how the sun is embodied into Easter, that is not coincidence, and how about the rest of the symbols used.
Bunnies are a leftover from the pagan festival of Eostre, a great northern goddess whose symbol was a rabbit or hare. Exchange of eggs is an ancient custom, celebrated by many cultures. Hot cross buns are very ancient too. In the Old Testament we see the Israelites baking sweet buns for an idol, and religious leaders trying to put a stop to it. The early church clergy also tried to put a stop to sacred cakes being baked at Easter. In the end, in the face of defiant cake-baking pagan women, they gave up and it swept into the church as it fell into apostasy and turned against the true believers which it then persecuted.

As for Easter, the name "Easter" never appears in the Greek New Testament. Easter is not a Christian name. It is Chaldean (Babylonian) in origin - the name Astarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven. By the 8th century this name had come to be applied to the anniversary of Christ's resurrection. With the passage of time the connection with the goddess was lost, the only remaining meaning being associated with Christ's resurrection. Unquestionably the resurrection was of enormous importance to the apostolic church, for it figures prominently in the evangelistic messages from the apostles as recorded in the book of Acts. No issue is made about the date when it occurred, however, other than to note in a factual manner that the resurrection occurred on the first day of the week.

It is to be noted that the apostolic church never gave attention to either the date of Christ's birth or the date of His resurrection, other than to note that the latter occurred on a Sunday. Neither of these days was observed by early Christians but as the pagan influence came into the church so did its festivals. In the third and fourth centuries a tremendous debate arose among Christian churches as to when Easter was to be observed. For the Roman Catholic branch it was largely settled at the Council of Nicaea (AD 325) with a formula still followed to this day, which cannot possibly be commemoration of the actual resurrection. In current practice Easter always falls on a Sunday and the Sunday chosen wanders over a period of four weeks ranging from March 22-April 25. The eastern branch of Christendom selected a different system, so that in the Eastern Orthodox tradition both Christmas and Easter fall on different dates from those in the Western Catholic and Protestant tradition.

The point is that the early Christians gave no attention to commemorating the resurrection day of Christ. If they had been serious they would be observing the 17th day of the Jewish month, Nisan, which begins with the first new moon following the spring solstice. Passover among the Jews begins with the 14th day of Nisan. It would not be possible to commemorate the actual day of the month and have it always on Sunday, so the choice was made to have it on Sunday, adjusting the day of the month for convenience.
Given this information, although the resurrection of Jesus is a historical event of huge importance, we have no biblical precedent for making Easter a special day of celebration. The name Astarte, as found on the Assyrian monuments by the noted archeologist Layard, was the name Ishtar. The worship of Bel and Astarte was introduced very early into Britain, along with the Druids, "the priests of the groves," the high places where the pagans worshipped the idols of Baal. In the Almanac of the 1800's, May 1st is called Beltane, from the pagan god, Bel. The titles Bel and Molech both belong to the same god.

We must remember that Semiramis also known as Ishtar, of Babylon, the wife of Nimrod and mother of Tammuz, was the same goddess worshiped throughout the world under various names, such as the Egyptian fertility god, Artemis, the Roman goddess of licentiousness, Venus, the Greek goddess of love, Aphrodite, and the Ephesian, many-breasted fertility god, Diana, as well as many others.

The (Easter) bunny, the oldest pagan symbol of fertility, Semiramis, has absolutely nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
Easter is essentially a pagan festival which was has been "Christianized" by the Church of Rome like the idols that adorn the Vatican and spread to continue the ancient worship from the Pagan Empire.

 

[Hobie]

History shows us how the pagan festivals such as Easter and pagan belief's entered the church in the early centuries. Most originated in Alexandria or Rome and from those two locations they gradually spread to many of the western churches, and thence to some of the eastern ones. Until the fourth century and some time beyond, the eastern churches, being farther from Rome, tended to remain closer to the teachings of the Apostles.

Pagan sun worship continued to be the official religion of the empire until Constantine would make the changes that would allow it to be "Christianized". The early church compromised and began to let pagan sun worship creep in and there was no one to stop it as most of the disciples were gone by 65 A.D. John, the last of the Apostles, died just before 100 A.D.

By the year 200, pagan compromises and practices were beginning to come into the church in a decided way. By 250, pagan beliefs were sweeping into the early church in an flood. About the year 154 A.D., Anticetus, bishop of the church at Rome, authorized a Sunday festival to correspond with the Attis fertility festival. This was a combining of Mithra, Attis and Christ and would better appeal to the heathen, he thought. Polycarp who was a close friend of the Apostle John before his death, the same one who tried to win Anticetus back to the true Sabbath, also tried to dissuade him from keeping the pagan festivals. But he failed in his efforts and returned with a sad report to the brethren in the eastern churches. The Roman church instituted the new Easter Sunday to avoid appearing to be "Judaizers" to the Roman authorities. There is a direct relationship between observing an Easter Sunday and a weekly Sunday as a day of worship. Each Sunday is held to be a "mini Easter" in commemoration of the (supposed) resurrection of Christ. Tertullian states, "On Sunday it is unlawful to fast or to kneel while worshipping. We enjoy the same liberty from Easter to Pentecost." Origin states "The resurrection of the Lord is celebrated not only once a year but constantly every eight days." Eusebius says, "While the Jews faithful to Moses, sacrificed the Passover lamb once a year . . . we men of the New Covenant celebrate every Sunday our Passover."

The same causes that led to the abandonment of the Sabbath for Sunday were instrumental in the abandonment of Passover for Easter: "the inclination to break away from Judaism" (J. Jeremias), to avoid "even the semblance of Judaism" (J.B. Lightfoot). With the abandonment of Passover came the abandonment of the Hebrew Calendar. M. Righetti states that Rome and Alexandria after "having eliminated the Judaizing Quartodeciman tradition [annual Passover on Nisan 14], repudiated even the Jewish computations, making their own time calculations, since such a dependence on the Jews must have appeared humiliating."

The Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325) settled the Quartodeciman Controversy in favor of Easter. It enjoined "All the brethren in the East who formerly celebrated Easter with the Jews, will henceforth keep it at the same time as the Romans, with us and with all those who from ancient times have celebrated the feast at the same time with us." Further, Constantine's Nicean letter stated "Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd . . . ."

The Church of Rome led the adoption of Sunday, Easter and Christmas (December 25), and the abandonment of the Sabbath and Passover. This was done to oppose the Jews and the Sabbath, and to amalgamate truth with the pagan custom of Sun worship, so we see how it came into the church.

 

[Grailhunter]

Old topic….And please describe how you would get aspects of Paganism out of Christianity.

As a whole it was not the Romans that put Paganism into Christianity….it was the Gentile-Christians …..and we are Gentile-Christians….Ya like weddings…..strictly a Pagan Holiday that the scriptures do not require.

 

[Athanasius377]

Reminds me of these:

 

[Grailhunter]

Anticetus, bishop of the church at Rome, authorized a Sunday festival to correspond with the Attis fertility

The terms Bishop or Pope are out of chronological order…. For one it leads people to think it is Catholic. Bishop is 4th century….before that church regional leaders were overseers. episkopé....a small and common error which lead to big misunderstandings

Anticetus, was the Gentile-Christian overseer of Rome.

 

[bro.tan]

It has been taught that Jesus died on Good Friday and rose early Sunday morning. As a result of this teaching, man instituted the holiday called Easter. On Easter Sunday you have Christians, world wide paying tribute to a day, in which they believe Jesus, was resurrected. In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself. In other words, this tradition directly contradicts the word of God.

In the scripture it's written in Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

Ezekiel 8:15-18 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

 

[Hobie]

It has been taught that Jesus died on Good Friday and rose early Sunday morning. As a result of this teaching, man instituted the holiday called Easter. On Easter Sunday you have Christians, world wide paying tribute to a day, in which they believe Jesus, was resurrected. In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself. In other words, this tradition directly contradicts the word of God.

In the scripture it's written in Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

Ezekiel 8:15-18 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

I think the whole world knows where 'Easter' comes from and it was not from the resurrection of Christ..

 

[Ronald Nolette]

History shows us how the pagan festivals such as Easter and pagan belief's entered the church in the early centuries. Most originated in Alexandria or Rome and from those two locations they gradually spread to many of the western churches, and thence to some of the eastern ones. Until the fourth century and some time beyond, the eastern churches, being farther from Rome, tended to remain closer to the teachings of the Apostles.

Pagan sun worship continued to be the official religion of the empire until Constantine would make the changes that would allow it to be "Christianized". The early church compromised and began to let pagan sun worship creep in and there was no one to stop it as most of the disciples were gone by 65 A.D. John, the last of the Apostles, died just before 100 A.D.

By the year 200, pagan compromises and practices were beginning to come into the church in a decided way. By 250, pagan beliefs were sweeping into the early church in an flood. About the year 154 A.D., Anticetus, bishop of the church at Rome, authorized a Sunday festival to correspond with the Attis fertility festival. This was a combining of Mithra, Attis and Christ and would better appeal to the heathen, he thought. Polycarp who was a close friend of the Apostle John before his death, the same one who tried to win Anticetus back to the true Sabbath, also tried to dissuade him from keeping the pagan festivals. But he failed in his efforts and returned with a sad report to the brethren in the eastern churches. The Roman church instituted the new Easter Sunday to avoid appearing to be "Judaizers" to the Roman authorities. There is a direct relationship between observing an Easter Sunday and a weekly Sunday as a day of worship. Each Sunday is held to be a "mini Easter" in commemoration of the (supposed) resurrection of Christ. Tertullian states, "On Sunday it is unlawful to fast or to kneel while worshipping. We enjoy the same liberty from Easter to Pentecost." Origin states "The resurrection of the Lord is celebrated not only once a year but constantly every eight days." Eusebius says, "While the Jews faithful to Moses, sacrificed the Passover lamb once a year . . . we men of the New Covenant celebrate every Sunday our Passover."

The same causes that led to the abandonment of the Sabbath for Sunday were instrumental in the abandonment of Passover for Easter: "the inclination to break away from Judaism" (J. Jeremias), to avoid "even the semblance of Judaism" (J.B. Lightfoot). With the abandonment of Passover came the abandonment of the Hebrew Calendar. M. Righetti states that Rome and Alexandria after "having eliminated the Judaizing Quartodeciman tradition [annual Passover on Nisan 14], repudiated even the Jewish computations, making their own time calculations, since such a dependence on the Jews must have appeared humiliating."

The Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325) settled the Quartodeciman Controversy in favor of Easter. It enjoined "All the brethren in the East who formerly celebrated Easter with the Jews, will henceforth keep it at the same time as the Romans, with us and with all those who from ancient times have celebrated the feast at the same time with us." Further, Constantine's Nicean letter stated "Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd . . . ."

The Church of Rome led the adoption of Sunday, Easter and Christmas (December 25), and the abandonment of the Sabbath and Passover. This was done to oppose the Jews and the Sabbath, and to amalgamate truth with the pagan custom of Sun worship, so we see how it came into the church.

Well Sunday was a long held tradition before Rome codified it and made it an unbiblical law. The church can worship any and every day the elders call an assembly.

Symbols are symbols and contain no power in and of itself. It only has power if people empower it with pagan concepts.

Yes most of the trappings of
christmas and Easter are of pagan origins, bujt that means nothing. If people are worshipping Ishtar or Saturnalia, then those symbols are evil. However if they use them for celebrating the birth and Resurrection of Jesus- it is perfectly fine.

Paul made this very clear in Both Romans 14 and 1Cor. 10:25.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

It has been taught that Jesus died on Good Friday and rose early Sunday morning. As a result of this teaching, man instituted the holiday called Easter. On Easter Sunday you have Christians, world wide paying tribute to a day, in which they believe Jesus, was resurrected. In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself. In other words, this tradition directly contradicts the word of God.

God's Word does in fact say Jesus spent 3 days in the belly of the earth (Matthew 12:40)

God's Word does in fact say Jesus was raised from the dead on Sunday, the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1-10,Luke 24:1-12,John 20:1-18)

 

[Grailhunter]

It has been taught that Jesus died on Good Friday and rose early Sunday morning. As a result of this teaching, man instituted the holiday called Easter. On Easter Sunday you have Christians, world wide paying tribute to a day, in which they believe Jesus, was resurrected. In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself. In other words, this tradition directly contradicts the word of God.

In the scripture it's written in Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

******The Mystery of the Last Supper and Crucifixion******
Friday
Passover---The Feast of Unleavened Bread----Hag Ha-Matzot.
Passover is one 24 hour period in the seven day Feast of Unleavened bread. The Jewish Passover occurs each year on the evening of the first full moon after the Spring Equinox.

One thing we know for sure, Christ was not crucified on the day He ate the His Last Supper. But the Jews would have normally been eating the Passover meal on the day Christ was crucified, that would be Friday before dusk.

Over the centuries there have been some confusion on which day the Last Supper occurred, and the circumstances of its occurrence. So before we go on let me explain. Traditionally in this time period, on the eve before the Passover the sacrificial lamb was slain and butchered ritually. The blood was collected ritually and applied to the doorways. (This is the Passover part of the ritual of the plaque of the first born, but this changed…Deuteronomy 16:2-6 The change was that the sacrificial lamb was slain at the doorway of the tabernacle….and then the Temple….This means that in the biblical era the Passover was a gathering of Jews at the Temple…

Then the entire lamb was cooked over a fire and eaten entirely, with unleavened bread. (The sacrifice could be either an unblemished goat or lamb. You can read about this ritual in Exodus chapter 12.) This is not exactly what happened during the evening of the Last Supper. But the Gospels use the term Passover meal to refer to the Last Supper and also reference the Passover lamb being sacrificed on Thursday evening, from there, confusion ensued.

The Jewish Passover that year occurred on Saturday April 8th 30 AD, and started at dusk (As the Full Moon rose) on April 7th. Computerized astronomical calculations (NASA) shows a full Moon on the evening of April 7th when Passover began. So the Passover for that year occurred on the Jewish Saturday Sabbath. Two Holy events occurring on the same day. Some refer to this as a High Holy Day, High Day, or High Sabbath for the Jews. The Lambs would have been killed on Friday, the afternoon of the 7th of April. But Christ would not be alive Friday evening. So in this instance there was an honorary Passover meal for Christ. As I said, we know that Christ did not eat the Last Supper on the day He was crucified.

He was the symbolic and divine sacrificial lamb and He was slain around 3:00 pm on the 7th of April, around the time that the actual sacrificial lambs were being slain. The Passover dinner for Him was held on the evening of the 6th of April...Thursday and they had a sacrificial lamb. The next day, the actual Passover lambs would be slaughtered and eaten on Friday evening/night...for the Passover dinners. Christ was the sacrificial lamb for the New Covenant and He was crucified during the day on Friday, about the time the sacrificial lambs for Passover were being killed. So Christ would not be observing the normal processes of the Passover and the Passover meal, and as it turned out, the same was true for the Apostles because they would be in hiding, not sacrificing lambs at the Temple. They may have arranged for food to be brought to them, but they probably were not sacrificing lambs while Christ was being crucified.

The meal that Christ attended was a meal that the Gospels refer to as the Passover meal, a Seder meal, put it was not the actual Jewish Passover meal. As I explained, the next day was the Jewish day of preparation for the Passover, and the Jewish Passover meal would occur then. This was the day that Christ was slain. Matthew 27:62, Mark 15:42, Luke 23:54, John 19:14, 31, and 42, all confirm that the day that Christ was crucified was on the Day of Preparation, which was Friday, April 7th 30 AD. John 18:28 also proves that on Thursday night when Christ was taken from the garden, the Apostles had not eaten the actual Passover meal yet. The morning cock had crowed for Peter John 18:27 Christ was before Pilate in the Praetorium and the Apostles did not enter because they did not want to be defiled because they wanted to eat the Passover. Which would be that evening. Another mystery solved....

Why April 7th 30 AD?
The death of Herod is well documented, so is the date of his successors. So in order to include the story of the Herod, the Magi, the Star, and death of the innocences, Christ's birth has to happen before Herod's death. March 12th 4 BC

We can consider April 3rd 33 AD, but Christ would be 36 years old and since it was said that Christ started His ministry when He was 30 years old, that would make His ministry 6 years long. So odds are, it is 30 AD.

So Christ is crucified on Friday April 7th 30 AD and then the Passover starts that evening at dusk along with the Jewish Sabbath. That night has a Full Moon. And this goes along with the double Sabbath tradition, ie Passover falling on the Jewish Saturday Sabbath. Keep in mind that the Hebrew month always started on the New Moon, so the Passover would “always” occur 15 days later….that does not mean that the Passover would always occur on the Saturday Sabbath, because the new month did not reset the days of the week. (Jewish Sabbath Saturday…different than the Christian Sunday.) Hebrew days of the month vs Gregorian days of the month, there is a confusion factor there but I will try to explain.

The Lunar Calculator below, shows the Full Moon on the evening of April 7th, 30 AD. This chart is based on our Gregorian calendar, but the first day of the Hebrew month started as usual on the preceding New Moon…which was on March 24th, then 15 days later on Friday, the evening of the 7th ….the Full Moon

 

[JohnDB]

I just ate some scratch King cake....
It was awesome....

For the impure, everything is impure.
For the pure, everything is permissible but not necessarily beneficial.

Pick your poison.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Pick your poison.

Pick your poison indeed!
Paul’s words at 2 Cor 6:14-18 leave us in no doubt about how God feels about polluting his worship with pagan celebrations and traditions…..

”Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me,says the Lord Almighty.” (ESV)

Does it not seem strange that every celebration in Christendom is “borrowed” from pagan religions?

When Israel fell to worshipping the golden calf, after their deliverance from Egypt, God punished the offenders and thereafter made sure that they never again held a celebration of their own making. Every festival and observance they held was governed by strict instructions made by God himself in his Law code to Israel. They were not at liberty to add or to subtract from those instructions.

Is he a different God to the one Jesus Christ served? He is definitely a different God to the one that first century Judaism served…..and also not the three headed god served by Christendom. This is how the devil operates…he confuses people as to who the true God really is.…and so they serve a god that satan promoted, more in line with the kind of god they wanted….not the one Jesus came to teach us about.

Just look at the different representations of God posted on these forums…..will the real GOD please stand up!
He will of course, when the time for judgment is right, but who will he recognise as his own among them all?
Who will be judged as a “sheep” and who will he identify as “goats”?
Many who consider themselves “sheep”, will be shocked at their rejection. (Matt 7:21-23) They chose to serve the wrong god.

 

[Grailhunter]

Christian holidays do have Pagan aspects and that is perfectly fine. Do not allow anyone to insult Christian holidays because in effect they are insulting Christianity. Christian holidays brings families together and give an opportunity to celebrate Christ together and what He did for us while strengthening the ties in our families.

Why do Christian holidays have Pagan aspects? Because we are Gentile-Christians or in other words our ancestral lineage goes back to the Pagans that the Apostle Paul converted. These Pagans came from all over the Middle East and Africa and they had their own customs, some of which they brought into Christianity. They no longer worshipped Pagan gods and became Christian, but they did not abandon many of their customs. One of which was wedding ceremonies that eventually was adopted by Christianity and made mandatory by Protestants in the 16th century. And just so you know mandatory church weddings.

Jewish-Christians have a different history and practiced Christianity differently Their weekly holy day was the Saturday Jewish Sabbath. The Gentile-Christians were not allowed in the Temple and worshipped in “house churches” on the Lord’s Day, Sunday. The Jewish-Christians played a juggling act with the Mosaic Law. Christ nor the scriptures told the Jewish-Christians to stop polygamy or concubinage so they continued.

This sect did not last long. After the destruction of the Temple the Jewish-Christian religion died out and the Gentiles-Christians took the helm of the Church. Polygamy and concubinage was not a custom of the Gentile-Christians. Gentile-Christians developed various holidays and in some instances Christianized some of their customs and holidays. Even from the beginning of their ministry the Apostle Paul nor Peter objected to this.

These holidays were well established when Ecumenical Councils were attempting to define Christian beliefs into one faith beginning in the 4th century. At that time the Roman Empire included a Pagan populace and Emperor Constantine wanted to combine the dates of the Christian and Pagan holidays so as not to shutdown the Empire so often. The Ecumenical Councils were involved with setting the dates for some of this. If you look at the history of Christian holidays you will see after the 4th century and through history Christian holidays have evolved. For example old St. Nicholas and the Christmas tree around the 16th century and Martin Luther and then the mistletoe kissing tradition in the 18th century. .

Christian holidays are a wonderful thing and a distinct part of Christianity and Christian families. By no means are Christian Holidays wrong.

 

[Hobie]

Christian holidays do have Pagan aspects and that is perfectly fine. Do not allow anyone to insult Christian holidays because in effect they are insulting Christianity. Christian holiday brings families together and give an opportunity to celebrate Christ together and what He did for us while strengthening the ties in our families.

Why do Christian holidays have Pagan aspects? Because we are Gentile-Christians or in other words our ancestral lineage goes back to the Pagans that the Apostle Paul converted. These Pagans came from all over the Middle East and Africa and they had their own customs, some of which they brought into Christianity. They no longer worshipped Pagan gods and became Christian, but they did not abandon many of their customs. One of which was wedding ceremonies that eventually was adopted by Christianity and made mandatory by Protestants in the 16th century. And just so you know mandatory church weddings.

Jewish-Christians have a different history and practiced Christianity differently Their weekly holy day was the Saturday Jewish Sabbath. The Gentile-Christians were not allowed in the Temple and worshipped in “house churches” on the Lord’s Day, Sunday. The Jewish-Christians played a juggling act with the Mosaic Law. Christ nor the scriptures told the Jewish-Christians to stop polygamy or concubinage so they continued.

This sect did not last long. After the destruction of the Temple the Jewish-Christian religion died out and the Gentiles-Christians took the helm of the Church. Polygamy and concubinage was not a custom of the Gentile-Christians. Gentile-Christians developed various holidays and in some instances Christianized some of their customs and holidays. Even from the beginning of their ministry the Apostle Paul nor Peter objected to this.

These holidays were well established when Ecumenical Councils were attempting to define Christian beliefs into one faith beginning in the 4th century. At that time the Roman Empire included a Pagan populace and Emperor Constantine wanted to combine the dates of the Christian and Pagan holidays so as not to shutdown the Empire so often. The Ecumenical Councils were involved with setting the dates for some of this. If you look at the history of Christian holidays you will see after the 4th century and through history Christian holidays have evolved. For example old St. Nicholas and the Christmas tree around the 16th century and Martin Luther and then the mistletoe kissing tradition in the 18th century. .

Christian holidays are a wonderful thing and a distinct part of Christianity and Christian families. By no means are Christian Holidays wrong.

No, it is pagan with a change of name only to "Christianized" them, but still worship of another entity and certainly not of God.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I just ate some scratch King cake....
It was awesome....

For the impure, everything is impure.
For the pure, everything is permissible but not necessarily beneficial.

Pick your poison.

So the poison you picked was.... scratch King cake?

All that sugar definitely is poison to your body

 

[JohnDB]

So the poison you picked was.... scratch King cake?

All that sugar definitely is poison to your body View attachment 59188

Nothing that tastes that good can be all that bad for you....

 

[Grailhunter]

No, it is pagan with a change of name only to "Christianized" them, but still worship of another entity and certainly not of God.

Hobie a cheerleader for insulting Christianity. Might as well join the Jehovah's Witnesses band of anti- Christianity. Christian holidays are a celebration of Christ and are a blessing.

 

[St. SteVen]

Easter Celebrations are Worship of the Sun​

And the Sabbath is worship of Saturn. Right?
Since you insist that the day of the week indicates which deity is being worshiped.

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[Dan Clarkston]

Nothing that tastes that good can be all that bad for you....

That's what drug addicts claim.... things that make you feels so good can't be bad.

And the Sabbath is worship of Saturn. Right?

No, it's the worship of the planet Sabbathia