Can you cast demons out of yourself? Yes!

[Michiah-Imla]

And not the bible passage says RESIST the devil. Not FIGHT the devil. WE cant do that, only God can

So you don’t believe and trust the Holy Bible…

Got it!

I on the other hand DO believe and trust scriptures like these:

“Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” (James 4:7, KJV)

 

[Raccoon1010]

I largely agree with what you say but disagree about the wine part...what passed for 'wine" in biblical times was actually just plain grape juice for the most part Gen 40:11. The bible actually does speak out against drinking fermented grapes Num 6:3, Judges 13:4, Lev 10:9, Prov 20:1, 23:31-33

Interesting assessment and I will elaborate and also we have had numerous in-depth discussion on this forum regarding that matter, as many persons are taught incorrectly by some suspicious organization that the wine in the bible was simply "grape juice". It clearly was not, and drunkeness was largely directed from the Lord as to proper usage and social consumption as well as medicine uses for alcohol.

I will direct you to Noah and the wine drinking he had performed after the flood and also, please do not judge Noah, the extinction of the human race during his time and the arrival after the flood must have been heroic and troubling both:

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be a farmer, and he planted a vineyard. 21 Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent. 22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father’s nakedness.


24 So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him. 25 Then he said:

“Cursed be Canaan;
A servant of servants
He shall be to his brethren.”

26 And he said:

“Blessed be the Lord,
The God of Shem,
And may Canaan be his servant.

 

[ChristinaL]

Interesting assessment and I will elaborate and also we have had numerous in-depth discussion on this forum regarding that matter, as many persons are taught incorrectly by some suspicious organization that the wine in the bible was simply "grape juice". It clearly was not, and drunkeness was largely directed from the Lord as to proper usage and social consumption as well as medicine uses for alcohol.

I will direct you to Noah and the wine drinking he had performed after the flood and also, please do not judge Noah, the extinction of the human race during his time and the arrival after the flood must have been heroic and troubling both:

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be a farmer, and he planted a vineyard. 21 Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent. 22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father’s nakedness.


24 So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him. 25 Then he said:

“Cursed be Canaan;
A servant of servants
He shall be to his brethren.”

26 And he said:

“Blessed be the Lord,
The God of Shem,
And may Canaan be his servant.

I know of the part about Noah. He didnt know how to handle wine

 

[ChristinaL]

So you don’t believe and trust the Holy Bible…

Got it!

I on the other hand DO believe and trust scriptures like these:

“Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” (James 4:7, KJV)

No. YOU dont believe or trust the bible if you actually are foolish enough to believe a Holy Ghost indwelt person can be demon possessed. And I just told you what that passage means....or do you just not know how to read?

 

[Raccoon1010]

I know of the part about Noah. He didnt know how to handle wine

I strongly doubt that was the case, and I'm not sure you are capable of making any assessment regarding Noah and the troubles of mass extinction and the trials of such. I believe God judges each of use individually as to the vast number of experiences and decisions we make thru life. We are not created equal as physically or mentally. The current USA direction is to promote and enforce equal civil and human rights only.

It's the old "you have to walk in Noah's shoes" to understand "Noah".

 

[Michiah-Imla]

to believe a Holy Ghost indwelt person can be demon possessed

“When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.

Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.” (Luke 11:24-26, KJV)

Undo the doctrine of devils that has you blinded to the truth.

“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” (2 Timothy 4:3-4, KJV)

THIS TIME HAS COME INDEED!

 

[MA2444]

No. YOU dont believe or trust the bible if you actually are foolish enough to believe a Holy Ghost indwelt person can be demon possessed. And I just told you what that passage means....or do you just not know how to read?

I knew I shouldnt reply to you! I just knew that anyone who disagrees with you you would talk crap to, lol. Dont tell me let me guess, you're never wrong no matter what!

 

[doctrox]

...it would seem that the witch doctors took over the world...

...and they would not repent of their sorceries (Rev. 9:21).

I keep hearing more and more testimonies from people who are told by doctors that they will die and all this stuff and they tell the doctor No I dont have cancer, I do not accept those words of death from you...Next trip to the doctor, they cant find any cancer!

Exactly, as there is a form of obedience that leads to death:

“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (Rom. 6:16).

Doctors are Caesar's agents in the field, by law. They are not there to heal; they are there to profit. And they are required by their contract to report back to Caesar everything they know and learn about you.

...saved people cannot be possessed.

We're not talking about possessed people. We're talking about oppressed people.

The Holy Ghost cannot be cast out of you...

The Holy Ghost can be grieved to the point of zero benefit to the believer.

... neither can the HG and demons coexist

Having demons in your flesh is but one such thing that grieves the HG. It's why the majority are ineffectual when it comes to spiritual warfare.

Yes, the believer can have demons in his flesh and still be a believer, as his soul belongs to God.