Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

[JBO]

St. SteVen said:
What is your definition of repentance? (process or one-time event?)

Does spiritual rebirth come before or after repentance?

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After.

 

[Lambano]

Does spiritual rebirth come before or after repentance?

It depends on who you ask. One size does not fit all.

I'm not talking about the Calvinist vs. Arminian ordo salutis. I'm talking about people's actual testimonies. And many (if not most) can't even identify a place and time when they experienced "spiritual rebirth", whatever that is. But of course, both sides think their experience is normative and there's something wrong with the other guy's.

 

[Ritajanice]

St. SteVen said:
What is your definition of repentance? (process or one-time event?)

Does spiritual rebirth come before or after repentance?

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It comes after repentance..that’s my belief.

What do you believe?

I know exactly where I was when my spirit was birthed into Christ...I will NEVER forget Spirit gives birth to spirit, as long as I live....it “ blew my mind”....still does...33 years on.....I still can’t believe that God recognises me as his spirit child....the Spirit indwells little old me....beyond my comprehension how God did it..,it’s amazing how our spirit recognises his Spirit immediately......he just knows how to reveal himself to our spirit/ heart....His Love completely overwhelmed my heart, I fell immediately in love with the Spirit Of God....I believe I’d been waiting for his true love all of my life...I often wondered as a non believer that I was once....what it was like to be truly in Love.....well, here I am am ,truly in Love and besotted with the Living Spirit Of God...

No man has ever been able to love me like God...I’ve never been in Love....that was, until the Spirit Of God came along...my testimony and belief.

 

[Lambano]

It comes after repentance..that’s my belief.

@Ritajanice, that answer surprises me. I was thinking of your testimony when I wrote, "one size does not fit all". My understanding is that you were born again first, then you were given faith. (With my unstated assumption that "repentance" comes from faith. I can explain that more if needed.) Could you elaborate on why you think repentance come first, then being born again?

 

[JBO]

It depends on who you ask. One size does not fit all.

I'm not talking about the Calvinist vs. Arminian ordo salutis. I'm talking about people's actual testimonies. And many (if not most) can't even identify a place and time when they experienced "spiritual rebirth", whatever that is. But of course, both sides think their experience is normative and there's something wrong with the other guy's.

Your thoughts here are probably all wrapped up in the phrase there, "spiritual rebirth", whatever that is. Anyone does not know what spiritual rebirth is cannot even properly discuss it.