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Ronald, don't resist the Word of God and please don't twist it to force fallen angel theology. “God is a Spirit!" and His Angels are Ministering Spirits - - God was present by His Spirit in the Wilderness with His People Israel - He was also with them "in spirit" in the sense that He was not...

We shouldn't complain regardless. The issue with US Christians is the fail to understand their true citizenship and they believe this world can be changed/saved. A New Heavens (Government) and new Earth (peoples) is coming and the former things will not come to mind. F2F

You mean His Son as the Bible teaches right? Not all people Blessed...you will find many abstain from voting, and for good reason. F2F

The fanciful notions you apply to the Word are images in your head planted there by who knows? God does that's for certain. What this thread has proven is the Christians ability to be deceived into believing Divine Angels can sin and can die - it's a belief which contradicts every single...

BTW way was your replay acknowledgement you cannot provide an origin story for you rebel angel? Be really nice if a fellow believer could at the very least acknowledge this. F2F

MA have you been on the spirits? The OP lad! This is a case of "not my circus not my monkeys" lol F2F

No, plenty of evil going around - its source is here 1 john 2:16

As is here in Australia. Misplaced - yes we obey the laws of the land but that's about as far as we are commended to follow. Conscientious objectors wait for the Lord to come whose citizenship is in Heaven. Christ is coming not God. F2F

To vote is to presume you know God's Will - it's an arrogant position, especially when you know God puts in power the basest of men? This world has been overcome! The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that...

Precisely - show me their origin story. We have debunked Job 1-3 Ezek 28 & Isaiah 14 - whats left? LOL if only you knew the symbols truth - hidden from most! Your notions are many!....You have much to prove. F2F

Post #207 @Wrangler (hate doing this to you - have the utmost respect but you pulled the integrity trigger!) Do you know what a simile is? (unanswered) I'm going to assume you do. Luke who wrote the Gospel of Luke & Acts likes to use similes (“his sweat was like drops of blood,”) He uses...

Kabone, you are referring to the Nephiulim yeah? The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. Genesis 6:4 Where do you get...

Precisely. How is it you can pin point the contradiction, but none in this forum can draw to the conclusion that their supposed "fallen angel" is powerless, so much so in Hebrew 2:14 its state the devil has been destroyed in Christs death. The Satan in Job has no power at all of his own...

Mate, this goes beyond surprised! Your integrity in this thread has been deplorable to say the least. You are winging over one unanswered question and you are yet to answer any of the number of questions presented to you on Luke 10:18. It's transparent Wrangler what you are doing here...its...

Not so...its a taunt against the King of Babylon and the symbols require spiritual discernment. You fail yourself and the Word by approaching it with man-made notions. First step is to rightly acknowledge the context of the prophecy. Do that and we can talk. Nothing on topic here. A...

You didn't read the "come back?"...no need to cherry pick...no threat here!

How did this king get the name of Lucifer? The word used by Isaiah was the Hebrew word helel, meaning ‘shining one’. He was indeed a ‘star’ in the political heavens, while he lasted. The word lucifer comes from Jerome’s Latin Vulgate version of the Old Testament, of AD 385. It is in fact a...

There is no irritation MA - I'm enjoying our chats! Looking forward to you getting back on topic soon. Post #207 seemed to be a hard one. Care to look? F2F

@MA2444 self control is required on your part here - you're losing grip, have a quiet word to yourself and return centred. I'm here ready to discuss the OP which to date has caused considerable issues for those who "thought" their fallen angel theology was a thing. What we are finding is...

More fluff...the evidence has been presented in many posts - go back a pick one and talk to it - open the Word and see if these things are not so. If you are struggling take on the Luke 10:18 interaction I'm having with Wrangler which is still sitting there unattended. F2F