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  1. Ernest T. Bass

    More about : Understanding God's "GIFT" of Salvation

    You keep repeating the same things. Again, if you cannot see the difference between obedience to God and works of merit then you will never understand NT salvation. Are you more loyal to false man-made docrtrines than Christ's NT? God's Spirit thru Peter commanded those in Acts 2 to repent...
  2. Ernest T. Bass

    More about : Understanding God's "GIFT" of Salvation

    1) as long as a person refuses to accept the fact there is a difference between obedience to God and works of merit, then that person will never understand NT salvation. 2) it was not the water that healed Naaman but God. It was Naaman's OBEDIENCE to God as to why God healed him. Likewise, it...
  3. Ernest T. Bass

    More about : Understanding God's "GIFT" of Salvation

    Again... -- you cannot show one example from the Bible where a person's obedience to God earned that person anything, where God owes people for their obedience. Your inability to show this is based upon the fact that obedience to God and works of merit are two totally, completely different...
  4. Ernest T. Bass

    More about : Understanding God's "GIFT" of Salvation

    You keep beating the same dead horse with same failed arguments. --NO VERSE teaches the idea of Christ saving sinners UNconditionally. The idea of "sinners saved by grace" is not found in the Bible for it is not sinners who are saved by grace but Christians are the ones saved by grace for it...
  5. Ernest T. Bass

    Doctrine doesn’t matter as much as love

    2 Jn 1:9-10 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: A...
  6. Ernest T. Bass

    More about : Understanding God's "GIFT" of Salvation

    Truth: "And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean. But Naaman was wroth, and went away, and said, Behold, I thought, He will surely come out to me, and stand, and call on the name of the LORD...
  7. Ernest T. Bass

    More about : Understanding God's "GIFT" of Salvation

    Free gifts are many times CONDITIONAL as the gift of salvation is CONDITIONAL upon obedience hence not everyone universally, unconditionally receives this free gift for not everyone will meet the necessary condition of obedience to God's will. Naaman was offered the free gift of being healed...
  8. Ernest T. Bass

    Leaving the Law.. : By GRACE

    There is nothing in Philippians 3 that contradicts Paul saying he was under law to Christ. The BIble does not contradict itself. What is in Phil 3:16 is Paul telling Christians to walk by the same rule. The Greek word for rule is kanon like canon of scriptures. The word kanon carries the...
  9. Ernest T. Bass

    Leaving the Law.. : By GRACE

    Again...... Paul, a born again Christian, said he was under law to Christ, 1 Cor 9:21. Your argument continues to die right here. The OT law is NOT to be kept by Christians, that would be sinful (Rom 7:1-5) furthermore that OT law of Moses cannot justify (Rom 3; Gal 3). But NT Christians are...
  10. Ernest T. Bass

    Leaving the Law.. : By GRACE

    You read things into verses that are simply not in them. The verse in Gal 3 does NOT say Christ did away with obedience, it says He did away with the curse of the law which He did when He died on the cross, He took away that OT law with its curse of sinless, flawless law keeping Jew nor Gentile...
  11. Ernest T. Bass

    Leaving the Law.. : By GRACE

    Again, curse of the law refers to the OT law of Moses which required flawless sinless law keeping that neither Jew nor Gentile could do. On the cross Christ did take that OT law out of the way with its curse of perfect law keeping replacing it with His NT law that requires faithful OBDIENCE not...
  12. Ernest T. Bass

    Leaving the Law.. : By GRACE

    In Galatians Chapter 3, "the law" refers to the OT law of Moses. Only the Jews were given the OT law of Moses and to be justified by that OT law required the work of sinless, flawless perfect law keeping, something the Jew could not do. Therefore that OT law left the Jew as unjustified as the...
  13. Ernest T. Bass

    Leaving the Law.. : By GRACE

    (1) The Bible makes a contrast between the OT (the law) and NT (grace). John 1:17 shows a contrast between the OT and NT: "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." "The law" here is a reference to the law of Moses and 'grace' refers to the NT law of Christ...
  14. Ernest T. Bass

    ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

    Quotes from OSASer Charles Stanley: "Even if a believer for all practical purposes becomes an unbeliever, his salvation is not in jeopardy" Stanley, Eternal Security, 93. "..believers who lose or abandon their faith will retain their salvation" Stanley, Eternal Security, 94. Other OSASers...
  15. Ernest T. Bass

    ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

    Paul was writing to Christians in Corinth warning them about falling, 1 Cor 10. Again the words fall and apostasy mean to move from position to another, to move away from a previous standing, Hence logically falling means to fall from a previous saved standing to a lost. Falling cannot apply...
  16. Ernest T. Bass

    ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

    No sin committed by anyone Christian or not, is forgiven unconditionally apart from repentance. Acts 2:38 the alien sinner, the one who has always been alienated from God and never saved, must repent in order to have remission of sins. Simon, Acts 8 those already who are Christians that sin...
  17. Ernest T. Bass

    ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

    if one does not believe, he is not saved and is not a follower of Jesus. So one never saved is never saved but this does not prove it is impossible for who does believe and saved to quit believing. Jn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: --Jesus made being a sheep...
  18. Ernest T. Bass

    ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

    The BIble does not teach that salvation is a one time thing. The present tense of the verb believeth as in Jn 3:16 shows and action that is currently happening and continues to happen. Hence one cannot believe one time for a moment then quit believing and still be saved. The present tense is...
  19. Ernest T. Bass

    ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

    Those that are lost (not saved) cannot fall for they are already fallen. The idea of being in the faith and fallen from refers to those that were in a saved state who fell to a lost state. 1 Tim 1:2; 1 Cor 16:13; 2 Cor 13:5; Col 1:23; Acts 16:5 refer to being"in the faith" which refers to a...
  20. Ernest T. Bass

    ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

    I am not sure where this is suppose to be going, my point was that complete total forgiveness of sins under the NT is 100% CONDITIONAL upon the lost sinner repenting of his sins (Acts 2:38) and then thereafter CONDITIONALLY CONTINUING to walk in the light (which requires repentance when the...