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  1. gadar perets

    A unique view on the book of Revelation.

    I gave you plenty of Scripture, but you seem to have a hard time admitting you are wrong. I am not the one who brought up this subject about Enoch and Elijah. Enoch111 did. I simply corrected him. I try to prove my view because by doing so, I make Yeshua and his apostles speaking truth rather...
  2. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    I agree they refer to the "Underworld in general". That means the world of dead people that lay in graves under the ground or in tombs/caves above ground. It does NOT refer to conscious beings. If they are conscious, then they are NOT dead. Sheol does not have various rooms with differing...
  3. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    You already posted this here in post#11.
  4. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    You can't have it both ways. Either hades is a place of burning and torment as in Luke 16 or it is a place where the good go as with Joseph in Genesis 37. In reality, hades is a neutral place where both the righteous and the wicked go temporarily, that is, the grave. It is not until their...
  5. gadar perets

    A unique view on the book of Revelation.

    I did not say "no man is in heaven". At the time Yeshua said those words in John 3:13, no man was in heaven yet.
  6. gadar perets

    A unique view on the book of Revelation.

    Genesis 5:21-24 – Enoch lived sixty-five years, and became the father of Methuselah. Then Enoch walked with Elohim three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters. So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. Enoch walked...
  7. gadar perets

    A unique view on the book of Revelation.

    I take everything into account. I simply did not mention the pints you just brought up yet. Hebrews 11:32 – And what more shall I say? For time will fail me if I tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets, Here we read about the prophets who lived by faith...
  8. gadar perets

    Dispensationalism versus Hyper-Dispensationalism

    Of course they do. I never said they didn't. Sinners run from the law as fast as they can. They do not want to be constrained by it, but want the freedom to do as they please. For that same reason they run from God as well. They don't pursue Him because they love to be constrained. A righteous...
  9. gadar perets

    A unique view on the book of Revelation.

    Enoch and Eliyah both died. John 3:13 – “And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, the Son of Man.” If Enoch and Eliyah did not die, did they remain on earth until Yeshua resurrected and then ascend to heaven with him? We also have the Apostle Paul’s witness...
  10. gadar perets

    A unique view on the book of Revelation.

    The context of this chapter is clear. Paul's intention was to refute the belief that there is no resurrection of the dead (vss. 12,32). He states that all die as in Adam (vs.22) and since all must die, all must be made alive or resurrected. All must follow Yeshua in the resurrection since he led...
  11. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    I have given you several strong points of evidence. I'll recap by posting an excerpt from an article I wrote. 1 Pe.3:18-20 is often quoted to show how Yeshua went down to hell, during the time he was in the sepluchre, to preach to the disembodied spirits being tortured there. The passage reads...
  12. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    I am saying the Son of God ceased to exist. God, Yeshua's Father, was alive and well and ready to resurrect His Son from the dead at the appointed time. The word "hell" appears 31 times in the O.T. Each time it is the translation of the Hebrew "sheol." "Sheol" appears 65 times. It is also...
  13. gadar perets

    A unique view on the book of Revelation.

    I don't believe any one will be raptured. It is appointed unto men to die once.
  14. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    There is no doubt about it. If he was conscious, then he wasn't dead for the dead know nothing (Eccl.9:5) Are you saying Yeshua never preached to the spirits in prison and that that verse does not belong in our Bibles?
  15. gadar perets

    A unique view on the book of Revelation.

    Ugh! To the assembly at Ephesus it say, "To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God." Does that mean they will be saved, but will not be raptured?
  16. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    I believe everything in the paragraph is a Scriptural fact. I do not believe we HAVE souls. I believe we ARE souls. The body + the breath of life (spirit) = a living soul. Yeshua was literally dead in the grave, but figuratively sleeping. Why do you believe he preached to anyone "during the...
  17. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    The problem with your view is that all Old Testament saints were dead in their graves. They were not "spirits". When a person dies, the spirit (breath of life) returns to YHWH. The body remains in the grave and turns to dust. There was no OT saints alive for Yeshua to preach to. The spirits in...
  18. gadar perets

    Soul Sleep?

    We are not told what he said, but it may not have been "preaching" as opposed to "proclaiming/heralding". He may have told them he has risen from the dead after paying the price of sin for all mankind or may have proclaimed to them that judgment day is not far for them or who knows what...
  19. gadar perets

    Dispensationalism versus Hyper-Dispensationalism

    Yes, sad, isn't it? Biblical names have great meaning, but the way we render them today hides the meaning. For example, "Isaiah" is really "Yesha'Yahu" meaning "Yah has saved", but the "iah" hides the name "Yah". I have thought this through far more deeply than most Christians on earth. As I...
  20. gadar perets

    Dispensationalism versus Hyper-Dispensationalism

    This is not proper English. I can't understand it. Your titles are NOT your name. No, "Yeshua", the name given him by a command from heaven.