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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Yes, it's called the HUMAN RACE! People from throughout the human race who are of faith are His people! But only those physically related to Jacob spiritually are of the New Covenant through Christ. Those who remain in unbelief shall meet with the same fate as that of Israel of Old that died...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    That's because you are still locked to a physical nation called Israel. You have no ability to understand the Kingdom of God that Christ came with that includes peoples from all nations is NOT the physical Kingdom that was of Old! It is the spiritual Kingdom of God that every human of faith...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You are NOT defending the truth! You are trying desperately to defend a lie! If you could defend your doctrine you would be able to explain the contradictions and confusion your doctrine forces into the Word of God. You choose rather not to even try to address the inconsistencies your...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    No! You are foolishly defending what you have been TAUGHT! You cannot make a defense from the Word of God yourself, because your unbiblical doctrine is not found FROM Scripture, but FORCED upon the Word of God. It's one thing to be deceived, but God help those who would choose to be a deceiver!
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Here also we better understand what is written. Peter calls them "people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy". Clearly this is not reference to Jews not having obtained mercy from God. It is of Christians, as Christ's church on earth, the faithful saints of...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    That's the problem with dispensational Zionist as yourself. You think the proper way to understand is by using that which was of Old to prove the New Covenant. You have it exactly backwards. It is the New that helps us to more fully understand that which was of Old. Of Old there was only one...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    You see how you continue to cling to your unbiblical doctrine! Being a Christian Zionist you have no understanding of Scripture, which is why you continue to distort the Word of God trying to make salvation according to ethnicity as least for Jews. You think the biological seeds of Abraham...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    If I thought it would make a difference, but since I know it will not I'll not be wasting my time.
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    How could you possibly agree with written truth since you only quote that which fits your unbiblical doctrines?
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Why do you stop before considering these dispersed Jews along with verse 2, where it is written, "elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father"? Will you also limit the elect of God to only these dispersed Jews? 1 Peter 1:2 (KJVSL) Elect ἐκλεκτός according κατά to the...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Race has nothing to do with those who are the chosen of God. Those chosen of God were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world. Not according to race, but according to God's grace, "the good pleasure of His will." Ephesians 1:3-6 (KJV) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    My reading is not esoteric because I understand the spiritual Kingdom of God that Christ came to earth with. And how the things from above are only to be discerned through the Spirit of Christ in us. 1 Corinthians 2:9-11 (KJV) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    A spiritual body of believers in the spiritual Kingdom of God is not esoteric. But it is true that many will not receive it because most will only accept that which they can physically see.
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    I've already explained why I believe the bodies are not physical but a spiritual body of Christ ascending to heaven with Christ. I know body is defined natural/physical flesh. But the spirit within every human is part of the same body and is that part of faithful man that possesses eternal...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    I've already addressed how they can only be a spiritual body, and how the holy city is not the physical city, Jerusalem of this earth. If you're interested you can go back and follow the on-going discussion, because I will not be repeating myself again. What I would like to comment on is the...
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    God’s people shall inherit and reign on earth.

    You don't even know the purpose for which Satan is already bound! If he were not now bound, since the cross of Christ, then Gentiles throughout the nations of this world would not be entering into the Kingdom of God being born again of His Spirit. Like all Premillennialists you run away and...
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    God’s people shall inherit and reign on earth.

    In the world to come! Why do you continue to argue some will be physically resurrected to life again for this world? If that were true those martyred saints who were resurrected to life again for this world would be burned up along with every living thing in this world! NONE shall be bodily...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    It appears you don't believe what is written because there is no PHYSICAL evidence to prove a literal physical resurrection! The account according to Matthew is NOT a mistake, but neither is the account to be understood in a physical sense. A believer should not need physical proof to believe...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    Paul differentiates between that part of man that is of the earth/natural and that part of man in Christ that is of heaven/spiritual. Saints do not become resurrected spiritual body when they are physically resurrected. That's why Paul says, "there is a natural body and there is a spiritual...