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But The Apostle Paul had it figured out right? He didn't totally confuse the issues like some do.

Yeah, good to get the band back together :musicn2:

Matthew 18:19 “Again I say to you, that if two believers on earth agree [that is, are of one mind, in harmony] about anything that they ask [within the will of God], it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. :woohoo!:

Great to see you back Roger. I was thinking about you yesterday and here you are :Agreed:

acts 2 20 ‘The sun shall be turned into darkness And the moon into blood, Before the great and glorious day of the Lord comes. 2Thess 2 2 Now in regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to meet Him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to be quickly unsettled...

The scripture you use for that, v36,37,38 is incomplete and out of context as I already showed you. 35 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 “But of that [exact] day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son [in His...

More context on heaven and earth passing away at a day or hour unknown at the Lords coming, This should be obvious 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not provide its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the...

That scripture informs us that it cannot be pretrib..., Mk 13 31 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 32 But of that [exact] day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son [in His humanity], but the Father alone. Matt 24 35...

Not found in the Gospels.? Did Jesus forget say something below? :contemplate: Mk 13 21 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed)!’ or, ‘Look, He is there!’ do not believe it; 22 for false Christs and false prophets will arise, and they will provide...

Old Testamen unbelieving Israel was always destined to be replaced by believing Israel, the Church whether, Jew and Gentiles.

:rolleyes: Rev 1 9 I, John, your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patient endurance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos, [exiled there] because of [my preaching of] the word of God [regarding eternal salvation] and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was...

I think the place he has gone to prepare is the NHNE. After all that's where we will dwell with God forever. So, the Lord will come again, and we will be with him in the place prepared in a twinkling of an eye. Rev 21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first...

See above reply to 7t7

I didn't say John stated anything. The Angel had carried John away in the Spirit to see a woman riding on a beast and he wondered in amazement. The Angel went on to explain John. The Angel told John 5 has fallen and the 6th is now reigning. John was living in Roman times.

The Angel was explaining to John and told him 5 had fallen and one is. In Johns mind that was Rome.

Off topic.

Yes. My post was intended to support what you are saying. Some seem to be having a hard time understanding you thats all. Full agreement. :Agreed:

Both the living and the dead are changed in a twinkling of an eye at his coming. We are changed so fast that you don't have time to realize you are dead to mortality and alive to immortality. Heb 9 27 And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once and after this [comes...

Revelation 17:10 and they are seven kings: five of whom have fallen, one exists and is reigning; the other [the seventh] has not yet come, and when he does come, he must remain a little while. At the time of writing who was reigning?

Why didn't you just answer the questions? jeffweeder said: So, which coming is the Apostle Paul a part of? IF you are right, why did Paul only inform the Thessalonians and Corinthians in part? Both are caught up together to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. 5 For we say...