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This is true. 2 Peter 1:5-7 are the spiritual steps. Actually read to verse 11, and start at verse 2. If anyone is interested in memorizing verses, these are great for any level.

Why? Do they consider it suicide? Looks like they know something we don't!

Wow, you honestly can't tell that the struggle in Romans 7:14-23 is because of sin in the flesh? You really don't know that Jesus frees us from sin? Okay, then Curtis. Nice chatting with you. Good luck. Let me know if you ever see the light. Until then we haven't anything further to discuss. Bye.

Why do you believe Adam was not imparted a free-will? How could he have sinned; that is not God's will.

I first heard God's voice 44 years ago, and am very familiar with it now.

When I've thought about it, I keep hearing in my spirit, "NO!!!" I know that voice...

I know you believe the Sermon on the Mount was to those under the law, but I believe they were His own teachings of the deeper righteousness of the New Covenant to the open (not Pharisees). I noticed that when combating the accusations from the Pharisees, THOSE are the teachings that had to do...

No, it IS God's Grace that makes me obey Him. Grace is the power of God, not a get out of jail free card.

Of course! That is what Matthew 6:14-15 says. Do you agree with that verse or not? There are some trespasses against me that I don't know about, and some by spiritually immature that have just shed off me like water on a duck's back. Those are instantly forgiven. It is the ones that have...

We forgive to OBEY. It is not a work. Look at 1 John 1:7 we are walking in the Spirit not the flesh.

Of course I've read chapters 7 and 8, but I know what they mean. It is not your understanding. Mine is Romans 8:2 frees us from Romans 7:14-23. Are you still under the law? Read those chapters slowly, and see that 7 is about the Law (vs. 7) the Old Covenant, and 8 is about the New Covenant, the...

So you have the desire to be mean. Okay. I don't.

Well I've been at this longer than you have, so it should be easier for me. Not worth answering. Why can't you at least act like a Christian? Is really that impossible for you?

That's fine. Both are right.

What is our nature? It is our instinct - our desires. When we are born again, the desire to sin is gone. So I think I asked you what is taken away when Jesus takes away our sin? Do you believe the desire to sin is still there? What kind of freedom from sin is that?

And when Jesus takes away our sin, what does that mean? And what's with FAIL! when you don't want to be talked down to? Isn't that hypocritical? Or do you believe the earth revolves around you.

All that truly believe in Christ have been given the signs of Mark 16:16-18. Those are for our individual growth. What we are to "desire" is being in service to others, and those spiritual gifts that are for the profit of all. All those who have received the Holy Spirit and are born again...

What like the Sabbath?

I remember you said that before, but I see it as Jesus showing us the deeper commandments of the New Covenant. John 15:10.

I do in longer posts. But what I don't get is why I even have to. Why haven't they experienced this freedom for themselves. That's what is scary about the church. It is like I was for the first 30 years before I was born again. That is not an imaginary imputed state, it is an experience of...