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9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. 10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and...

How would it not be? Explain

Nothing about a reservation. If someone says that the day of wrath has come near the end of the tribulation, does that mean there was no wrath from God before that? Does that mean that all the death and horrors that come in the tribulation before the day Jesus returns don't count? That would be...

Yet if it is part of the seals, then all the seals are part of it. Why would we ignore all the horrors God sends to the earth in wrath and judgment and call only the last bit wrath? It does not say that. So the same people who said this had seen all the judgments from God and knew this was the...

4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. That sounds like it is part of the terrible events that happen in that last time. Before...

Where does it say in scripture that the seals and events in the last seven years are not the wrath of God? Your only strategy here would be to try to limit what is called the wrath of God to the very end of the tribulation or when Jesus returns. That doesn't fly.

Yes Israel is a big part of the reason for the tribulation. Looking at the results in the very end though we see that the vast vast vast vast vast majority of sheep are from various nations and peoples etc. While this also is the time of Jacob's trouble. it is a whole lot bigger than that.

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The wrath refers to the tribulation or last several years I would think.

The dead in Christ arise first, and then we that are alive. All in a twinkling of an eye 1 Cor 15: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last...

So what are you doing? Since we are not here for the wrath of God, and the last years are the wrath of God, that means before.

OK What rapture verse (or verse you confused with a rapture verse) are you talking about? Your dreams force you to fantasize that other people who are not confused must be 'wiggling' Face it

First the Rapture. Yes. Then the return of Jesus (with us) To earth. I am not sure where you got a third coming?

How about to get His people, alive or dead out of here before that time when He wraps things up on earth? How about a rescue? How about a marriage supper?

No we cannot leave it at you saying most believers will not be resurrected. Of course you could provide no bible support.

Right, the second coming will be like that. Do not try to take away from the words elsewhere that tell us of being gathered in the air with Him. Not should you dare trying to add to the bible by suggesting that only the return to earth of Jesus exists and that the gathering of the dead and...

Regardless of whether basic and easy apply in your mind to the concept of God dumping most believers an having them miss the resurrection, the idea is still the vile little dream that it is.

The concept was the topic. Go ahead, make my day

Not having Jesus be a schizophrenic who contradicts Himself is not going against the bible in any way. Lazy? Or pretending? I do not usually profit from fantasy posts. Seems about right so far False. Your comment was uninformed and you avoid bible passages like some bugs avoid light. You see...

What 'escape verses'? As for the foolish women that could not come with the wise to the feast, the only way they could have been worthy is by the blood of Jesus. Try not to post as if you have a point when you do not and can't even be clear about it.