This thread is not about you sister.....and actually you are hijacking it away from the topic.
If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.
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Ritajanice
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No, I don’t need to keep reading like you do..my heart is being conformed into the image of Jesus.
Now ..you tell me, what word do we need to know?
I already know the Living God in my spirit..when it became Born Again...so please tell me why I have to know about the whore of Babylon..scripture tells us to seek the Lord God out with all our heart mind and soul...that is what I do daily...maybe you too..should start doing the same...instead of all this bible knowledge you keep preaching to me.
My heart yearns to know the heart of God.
Have you finished?
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
It’s also not about you either...you are the one who keeps quoting my posts...and hijacking this thread, when it suits you...if you stop quoting my posts..I will stop responding...maybe you ought to have a word with @Taken as well.. she too is highjacking the thread?...plus a few others..try not to single me out..because I’m not in agreement with how we are Born Of The Spirit.the way that you understand it...many thanks.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Unfamiliar with Gods sent Advocate.
No, I’m not unfamiliar with the Living Spirit who indwells my spirit..I seek the Lord God out daily.
No problem....just seek the Lord your God out with all your heart ...for only there is where you will find him.
You won’t find him in the Bible..for God is a mighty Living Spirit...he is not the Bible.
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Amen. Daughters of Babylon. And mother Rome got hers from Babylon....that spirit keeps morphing into different guises in different generations. Rome and Talmudic Judaism are finding they have roots in common....dig deep enough and you will find Babylon occult practices in both realms. Rome even mimics Judaism....priests, robes, rites, liturgy, altars, incense, etc. The Talmud is an abominable mixture of Babylon and biblical Judaism. God hates mixture...that is the unclean thing we are not to touch but come out of. Mixing the holy with the profane makes what was holy unclean. Mystery Babylon, the adulterous woman riding the beast portrays the mixture, whether in Judaism or in Christianity. Revelation was directly referring to apostate Jerusalem in the first century, which sadly met her judgment in 70 AD.......but what has been will be again. She will be judged double. And as the church's ensample I believe it has clear application for the church too. And who are her "merchants" today? Trading in wealth and false doctrines and in souls of men..... who are those false ones surrounding the US President today, the President who has been and will be helping Israel build her temple and whose image has been minted on the Temple coin, depicted as a modern day Cyrus, which is the coin that provides admission to the Temple. Unless I'm very much mistaken, it all seems to be coming to a head in our time.
Taken
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In conclusion.
No need for you to offer your advice.
I do not seek, search for, hope to find, what I already Have.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Well then..you are going against the word of God...
1 Chronicles 16:11
Seek the LORD and His strength; Seek His face continually.
I’m surprised that you don’t want to know more of the Living heart of God....
I crave to know him more and more..for he indwells my spirit..
Have we finished taking this thread off topic?
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Taken
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No.
I have my Lord with me.
I have my Lords Strength with me.
I will SEE His face when He Appears to me.
That which I Have, does not mean I do NOT continue to learn more About Him as you attempt to falsely accuse.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Falsely accused,LOL....pot kettle black...
The word says.
1 Chronicles 16:11
Seek the LORD and His strength; Seek His face continually.
Taken
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The word says…Choose.
The word “IF” you Confess, “then” He will Respond.
Josh 24:
[15a] And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve;
Rom 10:
[9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, [THEN] thou shalt be saved.
You deny Choosing and Declaring is what a man does Before Receiving Salvation.
Not Scriptural and I do not Agree with you.
No need to continue. We disagree and I am content in my Standing with my Lord God, and have repeatedly heard enough that you were chosen, sanctified without your input.
Just a gentle reminder to bring this thread back to the OP. It has gone way off track. Please stick with the subject of thread or it will be shut down.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
The word does not say that you can choose to be Born Of The Spirit.
I deny what you say I declare...I’ve already explained how God brought me to believe...which you think he forced me to believe, lol...because imo you have no “ spiritual understanding “.
You don’t sound it..as you hate to hear that my testimony is far from what you believe..you are the one who quoted my posts..
No one can “ choose” to be Born Of The Spirit..just as Jesus explains to Nicodemas.
“'The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes.So is everyone who is born of the Spirit'” (John 3:8, NKJV).
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Eternally Grateful
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Its sad every thread seems to have to be brought into a fatalistic debate
Refute it.. Actually, others have tried nearly 50 times in the last 25 pages and all have failed.
Please refute this according to the Gospel - "If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple."
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“If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah” isn’t bait — it’s a doctrinal statement.
Galatians 3:16 says Christ is the Seed of Abraham — not the Knesset, not a land deed, not a modern secular government.
The New Testament doesn’t support dual covenants. It says:
“There is no distinction between Jew and Greek… for all are one in Christ Jesus.” (Gal. 3:28)
If a theology claims you can bless a nation while it rejects Christ — and still call that covenantal faithfulness — then it’s not Christianity.
It’s Scofieldism, and it leads people away from the Gospel, not toward it.
That’s not trolling. That’s Scripture — whether it makes people uncomfortable or not.
Scofieldism has created a theology where following the Gospel of Jesus Christ is considered “anti-Semitic.”
If you quote Jesus’ own words to the Pharisees, you’re “attacking Israel.”
If you preach the New Covenant through His blood, you’re “replacement theology.”
If you say Christ is the fulfillment of every promise — you’re “dangerously divisive.”
In other words:
Preach Christ fully, and you're a heretic to Scofield’s followers.
That’s not Christianity.
That’s a false gospel that protects a Christ-rejecting system and silences the true one.
Galatians 3:16 says Christ is the Seed of Abraham — not the Knesset, not a land deed, not a modern secular government.
The New Testament doesn’t support dual covenants. It says:
“There is no distinction between Jew and Greek… for all are one in Christ Jesus.” (Gal. 3:28)
If a theology claims you can bless a nation while it rejects Christ — and still call that covenantal faithfulness — then it’s not Christianity.
It’s Scofieldism, and it leads people away from the Gospel, not toward it.
That’s not trolling. That’s Scripture — whether it makes people uncomfortable or not.
Scofieldism has created a theology where following the Gospel of Jesus Christ is considered “anti-Semitic.”
If you quote Jesus’ own words to the Pharisees, you’re “attacking Israel.”
If you preach the New Covenant through His blood, you’re “replacement theology.”
If you say Christ is the fulfillment of every promise — you’re “dangerously divisive.”
In other words:
Preach Christ fully, and you're a heretic to Scofield’s followers.
That’s not Christianity.
That’s a false gospel that protects a Christ-rejecting system and silences the true one.
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soberxp
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The wolves are among the sheep, and they are in sheep's clothing, and they seem to me to be the greatest antichrist, worse than the Atheist.
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