If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.

The Gospel of Christ · Apr 12, 2025

Ritajanice said:
Jesus said that we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

I take it that you don’t understand what it means to be Born Of The Spirit.by Gods Living Witness/ testimony?

Already explained that..did you read my post?

I crave heart knowledge from the Living testimony of God....not from you, whose to say what you preach is the true word of God.?

Your posting what you believe....scripture can also be twisted to say what one wants it to say...that’s why we need the gift of discernment.

So.how do you know that you are following the real God....By whose Living testimony/ witness do you know God?

The heart is deceitful above all things, who knows it?

For a Born Again the heart has been birthed into the Living Spirit Of Christ.therefore a child of the most high.

The natural man has no understanding of spiritual matters...for they don’t know God.....that’s why it sounds like new age fluff...

You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

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Yes — Jesus said you must be born again to see the Kingdom of God.
But He didn’t stop there. He also said:
“If you love Me, keep My commandments.” (John 14:15)
And “Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.” (John 17:17)

So being “born again” isn’t just a feeling, or a mystical claim, or a poetic idea about the heart.
It’s a supernatural rebirth that results in submission to the Word of God — not detachment from it.

You keep asking how I know I follow the true God?
Simple:
By the God who revealed Himself in the Scriptures.
Not by my emotions. Not by vague impressions.
But by the unchanging Word — confirmed by His Spirit, not contradicted by it.

That’s the real test.
Not how spiritual it sounds, but whether it agrees with the Jesus of Scripture.
Because the same Jesus who said you must be born again also said:
“He who rejects Me and does not receive My words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.” (John 12:48)

Being born again doesn’t mean the heart becomes infallible.
It means we’re given a new heart — one that learns to submit to truth, not replace it.
But even a new heart can be deceived if it trusts itself more than the Word.
That’s why God didn’t leave us with just “feelings” — He gave us Scripture, to test the spirits and anchor the truth.

The moment your heart becomes your final authority,
you’re not following Christ — you’re following your version of Him.

And if that version contradicts His Word…
It’s not Jesus.
It’s a counterfeit — no matter how good it feels.

The Gospel of Christ · Apr 12, 2025

Ritajanice said:
Only those who do the will of the Father will enter the Kingdom Of God.are you in the will of the Father?

Matthew 7:21-23

King James Version

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

Yes — I’m familiar with Matthew 7:21–23. And I’m glad you brought it up, because it perfectly proves the point I’ve been trying to make.

Jesus doesn’t say, “Only those who had emotional experiences with Me will enter the Kingdom.”
He says, “Only those who do the will of My Father.”

So here’s the real question:
What is the will of the Father?

Jesus answered that clearly:
“This is the will of My Father, that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life…” (John 6:40)

And again:
“He who rejects Me and does not receive My words has a judge… the word I have spoken will judge him on the last day.” (John 12:48)

So the will of the Father isn’t following your heart.
It’s hearing His Son, believing His Word, and submitting to His truth.

You claim to have a “living testimony.” I don’t question that you’ve experienced something.
But if your “witness” contradicts the written Word, then it’s not the Spirit of Christ — it’s a counterfeit.

Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
Not “If you feel close to Me, rewrite them.”

Real rebirth doesn’t lead us into spiritual improvisation.
It leads us to the cross, the Word, and a life that says, “Not my will, but Yours be done.”

The Gospel of Christ · Apr 12, 2025

And here’s the deeper tragedy:

We already have tens of millions of Christians in the U.S. — completely misled —
by Scofiled sending money, prayers, and political power to a false covenant,
funding a nation that openly rejects Christ,
and helping build a third temple for the Antichrist himself to enter.

They think they’re fulfilling prophecy.
They’re actually clearing a runway for Hell to be unleashed.

And now, layered on top of that, we’ve got a rising flood of New Age mystics
claiming to follow Jesus while they chase spiritual “downloads” from whatever light-being shows up.
They call it Christ — but for all they know, they’re following Azazel himself.

This isn’t awakening.
It’s an end-times nightmare, dressed in light, funded by fear, and driven by confusion & delusion.

It's going to be the Left Behind: "Tailgate of the Damned” -- and I'm not joking

You’ll have Kirk Cameron out front, Bible in one hand, Shofar in the other, standing on the helipad of the new Trump Casino & Prophetic Welcome Center in downtown Gaza —
flanked by evangelical end-times hype men:

John Hagee live-streaming the rapture countdown
&
Mike Huckabee playing banjo while quoting Ezekiel out of context

The banner behind them reads:
“Third Temple Opening Ceremony + Tailgate Revival Extravaganza!” Sponsored by the Book of Revelation (Scofield edition).

As Kirk yells to the crowd:
“JESUS IS COMING ANY MINUTE Y’ALL!! ANY MINUUUUU—”

Suddenly the earth cracks open, fire erupts, and here comes the Antichrist —

He descends through the smoke, looks directly at the crowd, and says:

“Thanks for building me this temple.
I couldn’t have done this without you... I couldn't have come back without your misled eschatology.”

It's like a nightmare, and were all dreaming it together.

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

Taken said:
Yes.

No. I express my disagreement with you, as you express your disagreement with me.

WHAT??
Why are you suggesting the “I” SEEK the Lord …when your own testimony is …

I said, if you are Born Again, then you should be seeking the Lord Gods heart?

Taken said:
* You didn’t SEEK the Lord God.
* You didn’t CHOOSE to CALL out TO the Lord God.
* You didn’t CHOOSE the Lord God.

No one can seek the Lord imo..not until their spirit is Born Again....only God can draw us to Jesus..only God can bring us to believe initially in Jesus and only God can choose to birth our spirit into his.

Taken said:
* Your testimony is God chose you and saved and quickened you, so now you believe…BECAUSE (without your own choosing), God MADE you Believe.

No..like I said.,you don’t understand how I became Born Of The Spirit...because you are in the natural thinking....you don’t understand the Living Power Of The Spirit and how he brings our spirit Alive in Christ..

Therefore your understanding is...that he forced me to believe..LOL.

Because imo..your spirit is unable to understand....that’s not my problem...

I can only believe the testimony of the Living Spirit, who witnesses Gods truth to my heart/ spirit.

Taken said:
* That is expressly God Saving and Quickening you without your Choice.

* That is you claiming Salvation “First”…THEN you Believe.

I did not claim being Born Of The Spirit..before “ GOD” brought me to initially believe in Jesus...those are your twisted claims...

Taken said:
* That amounts to the Direct Opposite of Gods Word.

God does NOT Save the already Saved.
It is THE SINNER, who Chooses to CALL on the Lord God…
It is the SINNER, who Chooses, Confesses Belief IN Him, To Him.
It is SUCH man, the Lord God Hears, Verifies and Saves and Quickens….”IF” that mans “Calling”, “Choosing”, “Confession” be True.

No it doesn’t...you are under no authority by God to preach to me how I became Born Of The Spirit....you are preaching from your own authority and twisting everything that I say..because imo..you don’t understand in your spirit, what it means to be Born Of The Spirit.

Taken said:
Your testimony completely “negates”, “denies”, “rejects”;
Scriptural TEACHING…
* “a man’s choosing the Lord God”;
* “a man’s calling to the Lord God”,
* “a man’s confessing his Belief to the Lord God”…

You aren’t under God authority to preach anything to me as I don’t believe that you understand what it means to be Born Of The Spirit...you have no Living testimony...?..you don’t even know who Gods Living testimony/ witness is?

Taken said:
Backwards!

You have been Given the Scriptural knowledge…

Scripture knowledge did not birth my spirit...Gods Living witness did that....you do not need any scripture knowledge whatsoever, to become Born Of The Spirit.

Scripture knowledge without the Spirit leading you through it and bringing it to our understanding..is void..as our spirit must be Born Again...as the Bible has been written by men under the influence of the Spirit.

We communicate with God from within our spirit ,as it’s Born Again...reconciled back to the Living Spirit Of God.

Taken said:
Expressly…for men…
TO CHOOSE
TO CALL on the Lord…
TO CONFESS To the Lord

How can you confess anything to God..if your spirit isn’t Born Again?

You can’t know God without his Living testimony witnessing who God is to your spirit?

Taken said:
your Belief…

No I haven’t......I have been given “ Living heart revelation “ which it seems that you haven’t been given Living heart revelation.= Spirit gives birth to spirit.....so, by whose Living testimony would I know that my spirit has been birthed?

Taken said:
Clear…you did not choose The Lord God.
Not in Debate.

Yes…Scripture Does Teach, for men IN SIN, To Choose, To Elect, To Call, To Testify, To Heartfully Confess “so Thereafter”… The Lord God… WILL Save and Quicken Them and BE with them Forever.

Very Strange.

No...there is nowhere in scripture, that God says that we can choose to be Born Of The Spirit.

That is your belief/ opinion.

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

The Gospel of Christ said:
Yes — I’m familiar with Matthew 7:21–23. And I’m glad you brought it up, because it perfectly proves the point I’ve been trying to make.

Jesus doesn’t say, “Only those who had emotional experiences with Me will enter the Kingdom.”
He says, “Only those who do the will of My Father.”

Jesus says that we must be Born Again..by whose testimony is our spirit Born Again by?

The Gospel of Christ said:
So here’s the real question:
What is the will of the Father?

Those who are Born Again are in the will of the Father...we are Spirit led, by the indwelling Spirit....God has a purpose and plan for all of his spirit children.

Now you tell me..how you know that you are in the will of the Father...by whose Living testimony.was your spirit Born Again?

The Gospel of Christ said:
Jesus answered that clearly:
“This is the will of My Father, that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life…” (John 6:40)

If you believe in Jesus...then your spirit must be Born Again....by whose testimony do you know that Jesus truly existed?

The Gospel of Christ said:
And again:
“He who rejects Me and does not receive My words has a judge… the word I have spoken will judge him on the last day.” (John 12:48)

So the will of the Father isn’t following your heart.
It’s hearing His Son, believing His Word, and submitting to His truth.

Anyone can quote scripture...that doesn’t mean that their spirit is Born Again...

The Gospel of Christ said:
You claim to have a “living testimony.” I don’t question that you’ve experienced something.
But if your “witness” contradicts the written Word, then it’s not the Spirit of Christ — it’s a counterfeit.

So, you show me where my words contradict the Bible..on how I became Born Of The Spirit

The Gospel of Christ said:
Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
Not “If you feel close to Me, rewrite them.

You can’t be close to God..not unless your spirit is Born Again...without God’s Spirit we are none of His.

The Gospel of Christ said:
”

Real rebirth doesn’t lead us into spiritual improvisation.
It leads us to the cross, the Word, and a life that says, “Not my will, but Yours be done.”

Not biblical...now...how about “ YOU” answering my Spirit questions that I asked you?

How do you know God in Spirit?

You have evaded all of my questions?

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

The Gospel of Christ said:
Yes — Jesus said you must be born again to see the Kingdom of God.
But He didn’t stop there. He also said:
“If you love Me, keep My commandments.” (John 14:15)
And “Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.” (John 17:17)

When we are Born Again we are being conformed into the image of Jesus...the Bible does not conform us into the image of Jesus, neither can the Bible bear the Spirit fruit.

so, tell me how are you being transformed into Jesus image...and who is the fruit bearer in our spirit?

The Gospel of Christ said:
So being “born again” isn’t just a feeling, or a mystical claim, or a poetic idea about the heart.
It’s a supernatural rebirth that results in submission to the Word of God — not detachment from it.

Reading and submitting to a written word...anyone can try and do that.

If we are to submit to the will of God..then our spirit must be Born Again...so how would you know that your spirit submits to the will of God?

We don’t submit to a Bible..we submit our spirit over to the Living God..our spirit becomes obedient to the Living Spirit Of God...it doesn’t become obedient to the Bible..does it?

The Bible confirms that we submit our will over to the will of God.

The Gospel of Christ said:
You keep asking how I know I follow the true God?
Simple:
By the God who revealed Himself in the Scriptures.

Sorry.The Bible confirms how God reveals himself to us in Spirit .to be Born Again..God reveals himself to our spirit, when it becomes Born Again...God confirms how he reveals his Living Spirit to us in scripture ....Spirit gives birth to spirit..without heart revelation...you are just following a Bible story..from your own natural man..

The Gospel of Christ said:
Not by my emotions. Not by vague impressions.
But by the unchanging Word — confirmed by His Spirit, not contradicted by it.

The Bible is not God...the Bible confirms who God is...a Living supernatural Spirit.

The Gospel of Christ said:
That’s the real test.

The real test..is .if one’s spirit is Born Again...not by some twisted bible knowledge that some post.

The Gospel of Christ said:
Not how spiritual it sounds, but whether it agrees with the Jesus of Scripture.
Because the same Jesus who said you must be born again also said:
“He who rejects Me and does not receive My words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.” (John 12:48)

Being born again doesn’t mean the heart becomes infallible.

Being Born again means that we have been Born Again of Gods Living seed..

The Gospel of Christ said:
It means we’re given a new heart — one that learns to submit to truth, not replace it.
But even a new heart can be deceived if it trusts itself more than the Word.

A Born Again is under the protection of the Spirit...of course we can be deceived...some can even be deceived into thinking/ believing that their spirit is Born Again...only the Living testimony of God can witness to our heart that it’s Born Again..posting scripture can’t do that.

The Gospel of Christ said:
That’s why God didn’t leave us with just “feelings” — He gave us Scripture, to test the spirits and anchor the truth.

We aren’t led by our feelings and neither is being Born Of The Spirit a feeling...being Born Of The Spirit comes by = supernatural divine heart revelation...

The Gospel of Christ said:
The moment your heart becomes your final authority,
you’re not following Christ — you’re following your version of Him.

The moment our heart is Born Again..the Spirit teaches us to follow him...we are partakers Of the divine nature.

The Gospel of Christ said:
And if that version contradicts His Word…
It’s not Jesus.
It’s a counterfeit — no matter how good it feels.

Being Born Again is not a feeling..it’s a supernatural act that only God can perform..by His Living testimony/ witness the Spirit.

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

The Gospel of Christ said:
Jesus doesn’t say, “Only those who had emotional experiences with Me will enter the Kingdom.”
He says, “Only those who do the will of My Father.”

Being Born Of The Spirit is not an emotional experience...it is a Living Spiritual experience.a Living spiritual rebirth ..that comes by supernatural divine heart revelation

Jesus also taught that we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...once that happens, then we are in the will of God.

Posting knowledge of scripture does not mean that one’s spirit has been birthed.

Anyone can post and twist scripture from their own understanding....

A Born Again also has spiritual eyes and ears the moment their spirit is reborn...the Living Spirit who resides in our spirit, once its reborn...helps us develop our spiritual eyes and ears.

Now you show me where I have contradicted the word of God.that you keep accusing me of?

Like I explained...anyone can read all about Jesus and follow a Bible in their own understanding.

To truly understand the Bible, then one’s spirit must be Born Again, then the Spirit brings the words in the Bible to our understanding...just as the word says.

The natural man cannot understand the Bible..without being Born Of The Spirit.

The Bible is folly to the natural man..they can’t possibly understand it as it’s spiritually discerned.

Lizbeth · Apr 12, 2025

The Gospel of Christ said:
And here’s the deeper tragedy:

We already have tens of millions of Christians in the U.S. — completely misled —
by Scofiled sending money, prayers, and political power to a false covenant,
funding a nation that openly rejects Christ,
and helping build a third temple for the Antichrist himself to enter.

They think they’re fulfilling prophecy.
They’re actually clearing a runway for Hell to be unleashed.

And now, layered on top of that, we’ve got a rising flood of New Age mystics
claiming to follow Jesus while they chase spiritual “downloads” from whatever light-being shows up.
They call it Christ — but for all they know, they’re following Azazel himself.

This isn’t awakening.
It’s an end-times nightmare, dressed in light, funded by fear, and driven by confusion & delusion.

It's going to be the Left Behind: "Tailgate of the Damned” -- and I'm not joking

You’ll have Kirk Cameron out front, Bible in one hand, Shofar in the other, standing on the helipad of the new Trump Casino & Prophetic Welcome Center in downtown Gaza —
flanked by evangelical end-times hype men:

John Hagee live-streaming the rapture countdown
&
Mike Huckabee playing banjo while quoting Ezekiel out of context

The banner behind them reads:
“Third Temple Opening Ceremony + Tailgate Revival Extravaganza!” Sponsored by the Book of Revelation (Scofield edition).

As Kirk yells to the crowd:
“JESUS IS COMING ANY MINUTE, Y’ALL!! ANY MINUUUUU—”

Suddenly the earth cracks open, fire erupts, and here comes the Antichrist —

He descends through the smoke, looks directly at the crowd, and says:

“Thanks for building me this temple.
I couldn’t have done this without you... I couldn't have come back without your misled eschatology.”

Adulterous Mystery Babylon riding the beast. Come out of her my people lest you partake of her sins and receive of her plagues!

Lizbeth · Apr 12, 2025

The Gospel of Christ said:
The most important issue here is not who initiated the relationship — God or man — because at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter if He found you or you found Him, if you’re still denying the One He sent.

If you’re following Scofield’s false theology — the dispensational system that exalts ethnic Israel above Christ — then you’ve already rejected the very Messiah you claim to love.

You speak of election. Of calling. Of God choosing you.
But what exactly were you chosen for?
To support a system that teaches Jesus Christ is not the fulfillment of the covenant?
To promote a theology that claims people can be in covenant with God without being in Christ?

You quote scriptures written to those who have faith in the Son, and yet you excuse doctrines that lead people to glorify a nation that rejected — and still rejects — Him.

Scripture That Exposes this Lie:

“If you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
— John 8:24

“There is neither Jew nor Greek... for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.”
— Galatians 3:28–29

“The kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.”
— Matthew 21:43

“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.”
— Romans 9:6

“They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him.”
— Titus 1:16

The enemy’s greatest trick wasn’t to get you to renounce God.
It was to make you believe you were serving Him — while walking in a doctrine that rejects His Son.

The only covenant that matters now is the one sealed by the blood of Christ.
And anyone — ANYONE — who teaches another path, another people, another promise outside of Christ alone, is not just misled…

They are leading others into the gates of Hell.

Reality Check — 2025

As of 2025, conservative estimates are that 60–70% of evangelical Christians in the U.S. are still influenced — directly or indirectly — by Scofield-style dispensationalism, even if they don’t know the name.

Most of these Christians don’t even know they’ve been Scofieldized.
They think they’re “just following the Bible” — but their theology is built on a Zionist-political distortion introduced by one man in 1909…

Not the apostles.
Not the early Church.
And certainly not Jesus Christ.

This is why the entire West looks like a Satanic clown-circus right now.
Because the moment the Church stopped preaching Christ — and started preaching covenant with those who reject Him, wrapped in a “Judeo-Christian” lie —
it didn’t bring revival.

It brought chaos, confusion, and judgment.

Many either are ignorant of or are completely deaf to what God's word says: Friendship with the world is enmity with God. Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers, but come out from among them. They are being completely led by fleshly emotions and their own rags of righteousness.

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

Lizbeth said:
Many either are ignorant of or are completely deaf to what God's word says:

Lizbeth said:
Friendship with the world is enmity with God. Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers, but come out from among them. They are being completely led by fleshly emotions and their own rags of righteousness.

Therefore if you make accusations about certain people...then you must be able to back up your accusations with scripture?

So far I haven’t seen you be able to do this?

We are called to love our neighbour....

The Gospel of Christ · Apr 12, 2025

Ritajanice said:
Being Born Of The Spirit is not an emotional experience...it is a Living Spiritual experience.a Living spiritual rebirth ..that comes by supernatural divine heart revelation

Jesus also taught that we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...once that happens, then we are in the will of God.

Posting knowledge of scripture does not mean that one’s spirit has been birthed.

Anyone can post and twist scripture from their own understanding....

A Born Again also has spiritual eyes and ears the moment their spirit is reborn...the Living Spirit who resides in our spirit, once its reborn...helps us develop our spiritual eyes and ears.

Now you show me where I have contradicted the word of God.that you keep accusing me of?

Like I explained...anyone can read all about Jesus and follow a Bible in their own understanding.

To truly understand the Bible, then one’s spirit must be Born Again, then the Spirit brings the words in the Bible to our understanding...just as the word says.

The natural man cannot understand the Bible..without being Born Of The Spirit.

The Bible is folly to the natural man..they can’t possibly understand it as it’s spiritually discerned.

I’m not going to keep circling around spiritual impressions when the Word of God speaks plainly.

You’ve turned “Born Again” into something mystical, private, and untestable — something that floats above correction, above discernment, and even above Scripture itself.
But the Spirit of Christ confirms the Word, not replaces it.

The true test of whether someone is Born Again isn’t how spiritual they sound — it’s whether their life is conformed to the truth of the Gospel and whether their spirit submits to the Word of God.

Jesus didn’t say, “If you have a heart revelation, you are Mine.”

He said:
“If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31–32)

You’ve said:
“We don’t submit to a Bible.”

“Being Born Again doesn’t come from understanding Scripture.”

“We know God only through heart revelation.”

But Scripture says:

“Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.” (Romans 10:17)
“Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.” (John 17:17)
“The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.” (John 1:14)

So yes — your words do contradict the Bible.
Not metaphorically. Not emotionally. Directly.

I’m not here to argue feelings. I’m here to warn:
If the “Spirit” you follow leads you away from the written Word —
if it teaches you to trust your heart over His truth —
then it is not the Spirit of Christ.

No matter how alive it feels.

Lizbeth · Apr 12, 2025

Ritajanice said:
Therefore if you make accusations about certain people...then you must be able to back up your accusations with scripture?

So far I haven’t seen you be able to do this?

We are called to love our neighbour....

I was referring to the ecumenical and Hebrew roots crowd, which composes most of the church in these days and who are in gross spiritually life-threatening error. And I am quoting and pointing out scripture nearly all the time, like I just quoted two passages in my post that you are replying to. But it's not enough just to read scripture....we need ears to hear what the Spirit is saying with it.

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

The Gospel of Christ said:
I’m not going to keep circling around spiritual impressions when the Word of God speaks plainly.

The Living testimony of God speaks plainly.

The Gospel of Christ said:
You’ve turned “Born Again” into something mystical, private, and untestable — something that floats above correction, above discernment, and even above Scripture itself.
But the Spirit of Christ confirms the Word,

The Spirit Of God testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God.

The Gospel of Christ said:
not replaces it.

I have become Born Again by the Living Spirit Of God...my spirit is Born Again....

The Gospel of Christ said:
The true test of whether someone is Born Again isn’t how spiritual they sound — it’s whether their life is conformed to the truth of the Gospel and whether their spirit submits to the Word of God.

The true test to know if someone is Born Again...is not how much scriptural knowledge they have....in fact Jesus says that we will know them by their fruit...and we don’t submit to a Bible...we submit to the Living Spirit who indwells our spirit.

The Gospel of Christ said:
Jesus didn’t say, “If you have a heart revelation, you are Mine.”

Jesus said how we are Born Of The Spirit to Nicodemas....no one said that we belong to God By heart revelation...Jesus said that we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...once our spirit is Born Again then I am in the Kingdom Of God....all that the Father gives to the Son...Jesus won’t lose one.

The Gospel of Christ said:
He said:
“If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31–32)

A Born Again learns to abide in the Living Spirit...we don’t abide in the Bible...our spirit learns to abide in the Living Spirit Of Christ...who do you think is conforming me into Jesus image...the Bible or the Living Spirit who indwells my heart?

The Gospel of Christ said:
You’ve said:
“We don’t submit to a Bible.”

“Being Born Again doesn’t come from understanding Scripture.”

“We know God only through heart revelation.”

We know God i said by becoming Born Of The Spirit...how else can you communicate with the Living God?

Our spirit is in communion with the Living heart of God...not the Bible....you have no knowledge of God without being Born Of The Spi

The Gospel of Christ said:
But Scripture says:

“Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.” (Romans 10:17)
“Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.” (John 17:17)
“The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.” (John 1:14)

So yes — your words do contradict the Bible.
Not metaphorically. Not emotionally. Directly.

No, my words do not contradict scripture...according to “ you” they contradict scripture...you contradict scripture because you say that we must submit to the Bible...not true..

The Gospel of Christ said:
I’m not here to argue feelings. I’m here to warn:
If the “Spirit” you follow leads you away from the written Word —
if it teaches you to trust your heart over His truth —
then it is not the Spirit of Christ.

I’m also not here to argue feelings..who said the Spirit is leading me away from scripture?

Not everything that God says is recorded in the Bible....does the Bible love you?

Are you worshipping the Bible instead of the Living God?

Do you even know who the Living God is?...we are called to seek the Lord God out with all our heart mind and soul..it seems to me that you are seeking bible knowledge @The Gospel of Christ ...instead of the Living Heart Of God..

Are you posting all your knowledge to others as you’ve been doing, thinking that you have some hidden authority from God...sounds to me like your ego does a lot of talking..from what I read of your posts...which is of self...

Be careful ..for God hates the proud in heart....reading your posts you give very little Glory to the Living God...you give imo glory to yourself....you are no different to anyone else on this forum...your belief is your belief..no more valid than anyone else’s...

Faith is a gift from God...we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God....there is no faith in God, not until our spirit is Born Again....we don’t even know God.not until our spirit is Born Again...

The Gospel of Christ said:
No matter how alive it feels.

The Spirit brings life ..not the Bible.

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

Lizbeth said:
I was referring to the ecumenical and Hebrew roots crowd, which composes most of the church in these days and who are in gross spiritually life-threatening error. And I am quoting and pointing out scripture nearly all the time, like I just quoted two passages in my post that you are replying to. But it's not enough just to read scripture....we need ears to hear what the Spirit is saying with it.

Why would what knowledge that you have Of scripture..be relevant to me...my question is...what has this knowledge that you post important for me to read or understand?

What’s its relevance to me?

This whore of Babylon that you speak of?

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

The Gospel of Christ said:
I’m not here to argue feelings. I’m here to warn

It’s the Living Spirit who does the warning...you have no authority to warn anyone...and besides...like all of us...why should I believe your warning?...you post the same as everyone else..opinions/ beliefs and your own testimony....I like to discern who the Spirit speaks to me through...and I can assure you...I hear nothing from God coming out of your mouth...only the scripture that you post..as it’s written.

Eternally Grateful · Apr 12, 2025

Taken said:
Yes.

No. I express my disagreement with you, as you express your disagreement with me.

WHAT??
Why are you suggesting the “I” SEEK the Lord …when your own testimony is …

* You didn’t SEEK the Lord God.
* You didn’t CHOOSE to CALL out TO the Lord God.
* You didn’t CHOOSE the Lord God.

* Your testimony is God chose you and saved and quickened you, so now you believe…BECAUSE (without your own choosing), God MADE you Believe.

* That is expressly God Saving and Quickening you without your Choice.

* That is you claiming Salvation “First”…THEN you Believe.

* That amounts to the Direct Opposite of Gods Word.

God does NOT Save the already Saved.
It is THE SINNER, who Chooses to CALL on the Lord God…
It is the SINNER, who Chooses, Confesses Belief IN Him, To Him.
It is SUCH man, the Lord God Hears, Verifies and Saves and Quickens….”IF” that mans “Calling”, “Choosing”, “Confession” be True.

Your testimony completely “negates”, “denies”, “rejects”;
Scriptural TEACHING…
* “a man’s choosing the Lord God”;
* “a man’s calling to the Lord God”,
* “a man’s confessing his Belief to the Lord God”…

Backwards!

You have been Given the Scriptural knowledge…
Expressly…for men…
TO CHOOSE
TO CALL on the Lord…
TO CONFESS To the Lord your Belief…

Clear…you did not choose The Lord God.
Not in Debate.

Yes…Scripture Does Teach, for men IN SIN, To Choose, To Elect, To Call, To Testify, To Heartfully Confess “so Thereafter”… The Lord God… WILL Save and Quicken Them and BE with them Forever.

Very Strange.

sadly when ones theology is not quite there. This is what happens. They contradict themselves. Without most likely even knowing it

Eternally Grateful · Apr 12, 2025

Lizbeth said:
Adulterous Mystery Babylon riding the beast. Come out of her my people lest you partake of her sins and receive of her plagues!

sadly. Most christian churches today have their roots in babylon (Romanism) while they may have fled in protest. Sadly they kept a lot of her adulterous doctrines.

Ritajanice · Apr 12, 2025

We are Born Of The Spirit by supernatural divine heart revelation = Spirit gives birth to spirit..

Theology doesn’t even come into into...unfortunately that is their error..they think that they can read the rebirth into being...

It’s the spirit that knows it’s been reborn by the Living testimony of the Living Spirit...having never read a Bible again..my spirit knows 100% that it’s Born Again...

Praise God that the Living Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...no Bible can give you that Living testimony...it just confirms how we are Born Again by the Living Spirit Of God.

You should know the Love Of God within your heart...the moment your spirit has been birthed...

Because God loved us first in our spirit....an overwhelming Love that man could never compete with ...Gods Love is the most powerful Love known to man....once your spirit is Born Again..only then can we truly know the Pure / divine,Love Of God...” mind Blowing “ ..not an emotional love ...a Living Holy Spiritual Love.

And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

I am hopelessly in love with the Living Spirit Of God!

Lizbeth · Apr 12, 2025

Ritajanice said:
Don’t put words into my mouth.Sister...he did not call me..he birthed my spirit...my calling is to Glorify the power of the Living Spirit.

Rita, I can't keep up with everything, but just want to say that we certainly have been called. It's all over scripture. We need to read and know the word and get it tucked away in our mind and heart.

Taken · Apr 12, 2025

Ritajanice said:
No one can seek the Lord imo..not until their spirit is Born Again....

Ritajanice said:
....you do not need any scripture knowledge whatsoever, to become Born Of The Spirit.

How can you confess anything to God..if your spirit isn’t Born Again?

Unfamiliar with Gods sent Advocate.

Ritajanice said:
…there is nowhere in scripture, that God says that we can choose to be Born Of The Spirit.

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