If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.

amigo de christo said:

Did you know that a man can qouate what you just said
which true it is
AND YET that same man knows not GOD and HIS LOVE .
SO the real test is
WHOSE WORDS do they love . SEEING you nor me or anyone has EVER SEEN GOD .
WHOSE words do we love .
If one TRULY IS born again , WELL THEY WOULD HAVE LOVED THE TRUTH .
Cause rita , did you know there are people out there that can quoate truth
and YET NOT KNOW IT OR LOVE IT . A FACT sister .

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Yes, anyone can post scripture......scripture doesn’t Love us neither can it give birth to our spirit....scripture is in harmony with the Living Spirit Of God....


I think those who we believe or we assume, do not not know the Love Of God, that they are going against the word of God.going against his teachings...like vicars marrying gays in the church ...aren’t we not to judge them and leave them to Gods wrath or discipline....?

The world is a terrible place ,with its teachings of corruption...I must remember that I too used to belong to this screwed up world.

Praise God that we walk that narrow path....where there is life to be found in Christ.

Ritajanice said:

Yes, anyone can post scripture......scripture doesn’t Love us neither can it give birth to our spirit....scripture is in harmony with the Living Spirit Of God....


I think those who we believe or we assume, do not not know the Love Of God, that they are going against the word of God.going against his teachings...like vicars marrying gays in the church ...aren’t we not to judge them and leave them to Gods wrath or discipline....?

The world is a terrible place ,with its teachings of corruption...I must remember that I too used to belong to this screwed up world.

Praise God that we walk that narrow path....where there is life to be found in Christ.

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people can quoate any truth and yet still NOT know the TRUTH .
I seen it far too often sister . And even the truth they do qouate they will use it
to twist away the other truth in scipture .
SISTER these days are not looking good at all .
Not at all .
But by grace i must do as i must do and as i am led to do . Number one
to all who say THEY BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST
my number one reminder to us all . GET IN THAT BIBLE and learn it well .
Pretty simple really . If the love of the truth is upon our hearts , WHY would we not LOVE the TRUTH OF HIS OWN WORDS .
rita man cannot live by his emotions . What seems right IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT .
what seems as love IS NOT ALWAYS LOVE . And its time for us all
YES EVEN ME MYSELF to increase my reading time with and to others . WE IS BEING FLEECED SISTER .
satan is a slick one indeed . HE can quoate scrip , HE CAN and HE WILL and HE DO say GOD IS LOVE
but he gonna lead one far from GOD and HIS LOVE . HE gonna make a real BRAOD path that sounds like love
BUT TIS DEATH and THE SECOND DEATH IS AT ITS END . and if i didnt love the peoples
WELL i would not be constantly reminding .

Ritajanice said:

Yes, anyone can post scripture......scripture doesn’t Love us neither can it give birth to our spirit....scripture is in harmony with the Living Spirit Of God....


I think those who we believe or we assume, do not not know the Love Of God, that they are going against the word of God.going against his teachings...like vicars marrying gays in the church ...aren’t we not to judge them and leave them to Gods wrath or discipline....?

The world is a terrible place ,with its teachings of corruption...I must remember that I too used to belong to this screwed up world.

Praise God that we walk that narrow path....where there is life to be found in Christ.

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What i say next i know is gonna sound like hate to most .
But if i had a church
Those in sin would be judged . but biblically sister .
what that means is
DO ye not judge those that are within
THEREFORE PUT that man out . I would put folks out
that justified their sin , YOU BET i would . AND i would ensure LOTS of bible reading to them all .
ANY sin would be corrected . GOD judges those without .
IF its goes against The teachings of the LORD , IT GETS CORRECTED .

Eternally Grateful said:

she ignores John 3: 10 - 18 she will not even discuss it. if she did. she would see her error

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She doesn’t understand.

Ritajanice said:

...the Bible doesn’t birth our spirit...

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Hard to take you seriously when you begin with irrelevant nonsense.

Ritajanice said:

I’m not arguing..you are doing your fair share of arguing?

My spirit was birthed by Gods Living testimony...all Glory goes to God...I had no say in becoming Born Again...I was chosen and predestined to become a child of God...and I’m here Glorifying his Name...as it’s the Spirit in my spirit who is Glorifying the Father through me....the Living Spirit Of God can never be denied..

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God...I know who I am in Christ....

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A mans spirit is Quickened by the Seed of God.

We can all say that “ she” “ he” doesn’t understand....that’s from the human perspective , that “he” “she” doesn’t understand.

As long as I understand the Living Spirit and his testimony that was testified to my spirit, the moment my spirit became Born Again....man/ woman can throw what ever they like at me.

I will never deny my Living testimony..who resides in my spirit, to accommodate the belief of another....my Living testimony belongs to me....

Spirit gives birth to spirit....to know that one’s spirit is Born Again and to know the Love Of God in one’s spirit, is mind blowing...even after 33 years of becoming Born Again by the grace and mercy of God..it still blows my mind..

Praise God...for the death and resurrection of Jesus...for without it , there would be no way back to our Spirit Father God.

Taken said:

Hard to take you seriously when you begin with irrelevant nonsense.

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As you choose.

My faith and belief is in the Spirit Of God....my faith and belief never came from you.

May you know the Love Of God in your heart...more and more each day.

Taken said:

A mans spirit is Quickened by the Seed of God.

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A man’s spirit, is supernaturally birthed by the Living Spirit/ Seed Of God....Gods seed is His Living Spirit....the seed penetrates the heart of Gods child, takes up permanent residence in their spirit....Spirit gives birth to spirit.= supernatural spiritual birth that comes by divine heart revelation...

Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed......when God plants his seed into our hearts/ spirit......it can NEVER be uprooted....there’s another way of explaining the “ Living seed/ Spirit Of God.
Mind blowing heart revelation......when the Spirit was indwelling me, He testified with my spirit that I was God’s child....there he resides, never ever to leave...Flesh gives birth to flesh.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.....a Born Again who has been birthed by the Spirit...can NEVER be separated from the Love Of God....for the Living Spirit Of God....is Pure Love....a Love that overwhelmed my spirit, when it became Born Again....a Love that can only get stronger and stronger....and a faith that can move mountains.....once my spirit became Born Again....my faith has grown from strength to strength...

I know who I am in Christ.....Praise God for supernatural divine heart revelation...

Like I say....we all have our own testimonies.....all testimonies are different....and no one’s testimony is any more valid than another’s......you believe the way God brought you to believe....I believe the way God brought me to believe and I will never accommodate the way another believes....that would then be me denying Gods Living testimony that was witnessed/ testified to my spirit..the Living testimony/ witness who resides in my spirit, will NEVER be denied....In Jesus Name....Amen!

Ritajanice said:

Like I say....we all have our own testimonies.....

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Yes.

Your testimony is you ARE saved, quickened, and believe “Because God chose you.”

You repeatedly, specifically, testify you had no choice or say in the matter…
You establish and reveal your one-way understanding, by “never declaring, You Chose the Lord God.” ( rather expressly Denying you chose Him )

You then quote numerous scriptures that apply to an individual WHO did Choose The Lord God, and infer that those Scriptures Apply to you, “Because” God chose you.

Point is:
Anyone can Talk “ABOUT” the Lord God, many do.

It is an individual “CALLING TO” the Lord God, that openly reveals their “Belief” IN Him, “TO Him.”
It is an individual “CLAIMING”, the Lord God …”IS THEIR Lord God ”…that openly reveals TO the World THAT THAT individual CHOSE the Lord God to BE THEIR Lord God.

I totally Disagree with you that ANY relationship between TWO…stands in confirmed Agreement, when ONLY “ONE” chooses the other.

Loans, between Two…
Borrowing, between Two…
Employer / Employee, between Two…
Friendship, between Two…
Marriage, between Two…

God and A Human…

On and on in establish-ing ANY relationship THAT IS up-rightly establish-ED …
when EACH HAS “CHOSEN” To Be in “Agreement” … to the Order, Way, Terms, Role set forth, regarding Those Two.

Scripture IS Knowledge.

Understanding the Knowledge from the Minds of men results in multiple conclusions.

Spiritual Understanding which comes from God results in ONE Understanding, that comes from God.

Quote of Scriptural Knowledge…

Eph 4:
[4] There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
2 Pet 1:
[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

Point…
A relationship BETWEEN TWO… EVENLY requires EACH to choose the other.

Caveat… If

Well, what “IF” you Do NOT “Call out To the Lord God AND Confess TO Him you Choose Him?”

What “IF”, you repeatedly Say to the World you Did NOT Choose Him?

Glory to God,
Taken

Taken said:

Yes.

Your testimony is you ARE saved, quickened, and believe “Because God chose you.”

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Already given my testimony...I am Born Of The Spirit.

Taken said:

You repeatedly, specifically, testify you had no choice or say in the matter…

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Correct ..because as I keep posting to you..I was chosen and predestined to become a “ spirit” child of God.

Spirit gives birth to spirit = by supernatural divine heart revelation.

Taken said:

You establish and reveal your one-way understanding, by “never declaring, You Chose the Lord God.” ( rather expressly Denying you chose Him )

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My understanding of being Born Of The Spirit , cane from God...the night that I was supernaturally birthed in the Spirit ..your understanding of Born Again is alien to me and for some reason you are trying to “ shove” your belief system down my neck.

Your preaching to me as I’ve explained is alien...the Spirit Of God does not speak to me through you...your words are full of confusion...seek the Lord God out with your heart ,is what I suggest to you...

Which fo some reason you are having a hard job understanding.....there is only one way for our spirit to become “ Born Again “...by Gods choice and by supernatural divine heart revelation.

Taken said:

You then quote numerous scriptures that apply to an individual WHO did Choose The Lord God, and infer that those Scriptures Apply to you, “Because” God chose you.

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Your words do not make sense, as your thinking in the “ natural” man.imo.

Taken said:

Point is:
Anyone can Talk “ABOUT” the Lord God, many do.

It is an individual “CALLING TO” the Lord God, that openly reveals their “Belief” IN Him, “TO Him.”
It is an individual “CLAIMING”, the Lord God …”IS THEIR Lord God ”…that openly reveals TO the World THAT THAT individual CHOSE the Lord God to BE THEIR Lord God.

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According to you and your testimony, which I disagree with 100%..your testimony is not my testimony.

Taken said:

I totally Disagree with you that ANY relationship between TWO…stands in confirmed Agreement, when ONLY “ONE” chooses the other.

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Again, makes no sense...the natural man has no understanding of spiritual matters..it is foolishness to them.

Taken said:

Loans, between Two…
Borrowing, between Two…
Employer / Employee, between Two…
Friendship, between Two…
Marriage, between Two…

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Once again..makes no sense.

Taken said:

God and A Human…

On and on in establish-ing ANY relationship THAT IS up-rightly establish-ED …
when EACH HAS “CHOSEN” To Be in “Agreement” … to the Order, Way, Terms, Role set forth, regarding Those Two.

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No...I did not choose to receive the Living Spiritual birth....you are once again complicating or trying to complicate the rebirth...which comes out of the blue for me..just as Jesus explains to Nicodemas.

Taken said:

Scripture IS Knowledge.

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Scripture..is not the Living Spirit Of God.

Taken said:

Understanding the Knowledge from the Minds of men results in multiple conclusions.

Spiritual Understanding which comes from God results in ONE Understanding, that comes from God.

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Spiritual understanding comes from the Living Spirit Of God...our hearts grow in spiritual knowledge, once our spirit is Born Again.

Taken said:

Quote of Scriptural Knowledge…

Eph 4:
[4] There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
2 Pet 1:
[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

Point…
A relationship BETWEEN TWO… EVENLY requires EACH to choose the other.

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No..according to you...there is nowhere in scripture, that says a “ Born Again “ chooses God...that is what you have come to believe...which I 100% disagree with.

Taken said:

Caveat… If

Well, what “IF” you Do NOT “Call out To the Lord God AND Confess TO Him you Choose Him?”

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Again..your words are full of confusion, as your thinking comes from the natural thinking...you lack words in spirit, imo...I suggest that you seek to know God out from within your heart....for that is where his Spirit resides.....

Taken said:

What “IF”, you repeatedly Say to the World you Did NOT Choose Him?

Glory to God,
Taken

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I have been Born Of The Spirit...by the Living Spirit Of God...my spirit has been birthed into the Living Spirit Of Christ...which for some reason you are having a hard time understanding “ spiritual matters “.

Your preaching of what it means to be Born Again, seems a tad complicated, which is not from God.

Being Born Again is very easy to understand..providing that your “ spirit “ was supernaturally birthed by the Living Spirit....

The enemy is a deceiver...he can’t deceive me...because my spirit knows it’s been birthed....are you sure that your spirit knows it’s been birthed?...by Gods Living witness/ testimony?

Your heart should know the Lord God...not your own intellect..that I see written on your many posts to me.

You post scripture that you understand...and dismiss scripture that I post....you also write imo, from the natural man...there is no spirit life in “ your” typed words....

To know God who is a Living Spirit...you must be Born Again and know him in your spirit...that seems to be the part that you are having a hard time understanding.

1 Samuel 12:24 - Only fear the LORD, and serve him in truth with all your heart: for consider how great things he hath done for you.

Colossians 3:23-24 - And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; (Read More...)

1 Corinthians 15:58 - Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

Romans 12:1 - I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 Corinthians 9:7 - Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

1 Peter 2:9 - But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Deuteronomy 13:4 - Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

Colossians 3:17 - And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Matthew 6:24 - No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Malachi 3:18 - Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not

The Gospel of Christ said:

The most important issue here is not who initiated the relationship — God or man — because at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter if He found you or you found Him, if you’re still denying the One He sent.

If you’re following Scofield’s false theology — the dispensational system that exalts ethnic Israel above Christ — then you’ve already rejected the very Messiah you claim to love

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The most important issue is, that my spirit is Born Again..you don’t need to read any theology book to know that.

‘Tis The Living Spirit who gives birth to our spirit = by divine heart revelation.

A Born Again is Spirit led, as they are a spirit child of the Living God.....who testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.

There are those who get very upset with my biblical testimony..on how I was Born Of The Spirit....

God does say..that the natural man cannot understand spiritual matters....some may think that their spirit is Born Again..yet in reality it may not be....I don’t know who are Born Again ,only God knows who are his spirit children....a Born Again communicates with God in spirit....because their spirit has permanently been birthed into the Living Spirit Of Christ...” mind blowing “....heart revelation is...

The Gospel of Christ said:

You speak of election. Of calling. Of God choosing you.
But what exactly were you chosen for

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To be conformed into Jesus image..to bear his fruit, to do the will of the Father and to Glorify the power of the Living rebirth.....to Glorify the Living God.....who has almighty power to birth our spirit into his....being chosen and predestined..all according to his purpose and plan for our lives....God has a wonderful plan for our lives..we walk in faith, because we know God in our spirit....along the way we encounter false prophets who come in the Name Of the Lord..but their hearts are far from him, you will know them by their fruit...

We are called to do the will of the Father on the earth...spirit children of the most high..the almighty Living God...His will be done in heaven and on earth....

What were you chosen for....and by whose Living testimony are you called by?

Are you under authority of the Living God to preach / teach , what you write on this forum?

Are they words from the Living God that you teach. @The Gospel of Christ ?

Or are you just posting what you believe like everyone else?

Taken said:

A mans spirit is Quickened by the Seed of God.

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Our spirit is Born Again..= by supernatural divine heart revelation = Spirit gives birth to spirit.

The Living Spirit is my Living witness and he permanently resides in my spirit...because my spirit has been birthed.

I am here to proclaim that God is a Living Mighty Spirit...and to do the will of the Father..I am not here to spread confusion....

The Gospel of Christ said:

You speak of being 'born again' as if it’s a mystical feeling or inner vibe —

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The Gospel of Christ said:

but Jesus didn’t say ‘those who feel reborn are saved.’ He said, ‘If you love Me, keep My commandments.’ (John 14:15).

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Jesus said that we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

I take it that you don’t understand what it means to be Born Of The Spirit.by Gods Living Witness/ testimony?

The Gospel of Christ said:

You claim God chose you — but chosen for what? To follow Christ in truth, or to redefine Him in the image of your emotions? The Spirit of God doesn’t lead people away from the Word — He confirms it.

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Already explained that..did you read my post?

The Gospel of Christ said:

If you’ve truly been born of the Spirit, then you won’t flee from sound doctrine — you’ll crave it. (2 Timothy 4:3 warns of those who don’t.)

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I crave heart knowledge from the Living testimony of God....not from you, whose to say what you preach is the true word of God.?

Your posting what you believe....scripture can also be twisted to say what one wants it to say...that’s why we need the gift of discernment.

The Gospel of Christ said:

So here’s the real test: Are you following the real Jesus —

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So.how do you know that you are following the real God....By whose Living testimony/ witness do you know God?

The Gospel of Christ said:

the one revealed in Scripture — or a version that just says ‘follow your heart’? Because - the heart is deceitful above all things. (Jeremiah 17:9)

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The heart is deceitful above all things, who knows it?

For a Born Again the heart has been birthed into the Living Spirit Of Christ.therefore a child of the most high.

The Gospel of Christ said:

This is the danger of New Age fluff — it sounds deep, feels good, and quietly replaces Christ with the self.

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The natural man has no understanding of spiritual matters...for they don’t know God.....that’s why it sounds like new age fluff...

You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

The Gospel of Christ said:

If you love Me, keep My commandments.’ (John 14:15)

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Only those who do the will of the Father will enter the Kingdom Of God.are you in the will of the Father?

Matthew 7:21-23​

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21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

Anyone can see from the title that this thread is nothing but pure troll baitboxing

Ritajanice said:

Correct ..because as I keep posting to you..I was chosen and predestined to become a “ spirit” child of God.


..your understanding of Born Again is alien to me …

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Yes.

Ritajanice said:

and for some reason you are trying to “ shove” your belief system down my neck.

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No. I express my disagreement with you, as you express your disagreement with me.

Ritajanice said:

seek the Lord God out with your heart ,is what I suggest to you...

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WHAT??
Why are you suggesting the “I” SEEK the Lord …when your own testimony is …

* You didn’t SEEK the Lord God.
* You didn’t CHOOSE to CALL out TO the Lord God.
* You didn’t CHOOSE the Lord God.

* Your testimony is God chose you and saved and quickened you, so now you believe…BECAUSE (without your own choosing), God MADE you Believe.

* That is expressly God Saving and Quickening you without your Choice.

* That is you claiming Salvation “First”…THEN you Believe.

* That amounts to the Direct Opposite of Gods Word.

God does NOT Save the already Saved.
It is THE SINNER, who Chooses to CALL on the Lord God…
It is the SINNER, who Chooses, Confesses Belief IN Him, To Him.
It is SUCH man, the Lord God Hears, Verifies and Saves and Quickens….”IF” that mans “Calling”, “Choosing”, “Confession” be True.

Your testimony completely “negates”, “denies”, “rejects”;
Scriptural TEACHING…
* “a man’s choosing the Lord God”;
* “a man’s calling to the Lord God”,
* “a man’s confessing his Belief to the Lord God”…

Backwards!

Ritajanice said:

Your words do not make sense.

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You have been Given the Scriptural knowledge…
Expressly…for men…
TO CHOOSE
TO CALL on the Lord…
TO CONFESS To the Lord your Belief…

Ritajanice said:

No...I did not choose to receive the Living Spiritual birth....

No..according to you...there is nowhere in scripture, that says a “ Born Again “ chooses God...that is what you have come to believe...which I 100% disagree with.

…not from God.

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Clear…you did not choose The Lord God.
Not in Debate.

Yes…Scripture Does Teach, for men IN SIN, To Choose, To Elect, To Call, To Testify, To Heartfully Confess “so Thereafter”… The Lord God… WILL Save and Quicken Them and BE with them Forever.

Very Strange.