Simplicity itself. I'm accused of adding to the Bible. But I don't know how it can be more clear. God gives rebirth, but only to those who receive and believe.
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If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
That is your belief and testimony.you believe you chose God.....I believe ..I was chosen and predestined to become a child of God....I had no say in becoming Born Of The Spirit.
That’s my belief....so, why is it that you don’t like me posting my belief, which is Biblical?
Like I’ve already tried to explain to you...you believe one way...I believe a different way....
Mine is different...this is how Jesus explains the rebirth/ Born Of The Spirit.
John 3
King James Version
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Romans 8
King James Version
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Eternally Grateful
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2 Corinthians 11:3
But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
1 Corinthians 2:14
King James Version
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Eternally Grateful
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How about knowledge?
Again, I have just entered. so humble yourself. and stop being a know it all.
This just shows you failure to listenClaim:
Him: “Nothing in John 8 contradicts Romans 11… All Israel will be saved when the fullness of the Gentiles is complete.”
Response:
Me: And as I already said — Romans 11 doesn't cancel Jesus' own words.
John 8:44 wasn’t metaphorical. Jesus said to the Jewish leaders:
“You are of your father the devil.”
Paul wasn't contradicting that — he was warning Gentile believers not to become arrogant, while grieving that his own people had rejected the Messiah. Romans 11 is not a loophole for Christ-rejecting Judaism.
Who are the jews of John 8
Speaking of the "blinded in part
Romans 11:
Romans 11: 8 Just as it is written:
“God has given them a spirit of stupor, Eyes that they should not see And ears that they should not hear, To this very day.”
This would still be applicable today.
I never claimed Israel would recieve anything apart from repentance.Claim:
Him: “Israel is blinded in part… those blind Jews are enemies of the Gospel… they are of their father the devil.”
Me: Then stop flipping between claiming Israel is broken off and still holding a valid inheritance apart from repentance.
You say you agree with Paul — but then act like the land and nation of modern Israel still hold divine right without accepting Christ.
(Yep, you guessed it — goes against the Gospel. Again.)
Again, Your failure to listen is mondboggling
This is true. and neither Scofield or myself has said anything different.
so once again, You have a reading comprehension problem
No it is not. Because the land promise has nothing to do with anyones salvation.Claim:
Him: “It doesn’t matter if you’re Jew or Gentile. If you reject God, God rejects you.”
Me: Amen — but somehow you still turn around and argue that the land promises remain valid for people who currently reject Christ.
That’s dual-covenant logic, whether you admit it or not.
The land promise in valid. they are in sin, as such, they are scattered as promised God would do to them in Lev 26
27 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me, 28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols;
and My soul shall abhor you.
31 I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your sweet aromas.
32 I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it.
36 ‘And as for those of you who are left, I will send faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; the sound of a shaken leaf shall cause them to flee; They shall flee as though fleeing from a sword, and they shall fall when no one pursues.
37 They shall stumble over one another, as it were before a sword, when no one pursues; and you shall have no power to stand before your enemies.
38 You shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.
39 And those of you who are left shall waste away in their iniquity in your enemies’ lands; also in their fathers’ iniquities, which are with them, they shall waste away.
Are you telling me this is not still happening today?
No. Because they will not be returned until the repent. If you had studied, you would see this also.
Lev 26:
40 ‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,
41 and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—
42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.
Remember, Romans 11 says at the end of this gentile period. ALL ISREAL will be saved. they have repented only THEN will they be restored.
What is in Israel now is not a restoration. they are still in sin, and the land is still desolate.
Yes, In Christ alone.Claim:
Him: “God’s promise still stands… Amen, never said otherwise.”
Me: But those promises now stand in Christ alone — not in genealogical claims, national identities, or Third Temple fantasies. That’s the whole point of the Gospel:
This has nothing to do with a promise of land God gave Abraham Isaac Jacob and his 12 sons and all of their descendants. as an ETERNAL gift.
They would have repented. and have christ.Claim:
Him: “God promised David He would rule in Jerusalem. That has nothing to do with salvation.”
Me: What does it profit anyone to inherit land if they die without Christ?
Keep proving you do not listen. I am having fun tearing your thinking down.. I love it when a know it all thinks he is going to shut me down.
Your right it is not a parallel inheritance.
it is a separate inheritance. Given to a nation of people
The gift and calling of God are irrevocable. You can try to convince people Go revoked his gift to them. You would be calling God a liar
Dispensationalism is not a gospel teaching, it is breaking histroy down into sections. so it is easier to explain themClaim:
Him: “My foundation is Christ. Yours is lies and Catholic doctrine.”
Me: That’s ironic. The version of theology you're defending — Dispensationalism — was invented in the 1800s, pushed into American seminaries by Cyrus Scofield with help from Zionist funders. My theology is the New Testament, not Rome or Scofield’s study notes.
You however. are following catholic antisemeitsm. You think you replaced Israel. You did not
You do not understand scripture. or the promises or the covenants.Claim:
Him: “Take your antisemitism elsewhere.”
Me: Labeling Scriptural rebuke as “antisemitism” is a deflection. This isn’t about race. It’s about rejecting the only Messiah who can save anyone — Jew or Gentile.
If someone rejects Christ, they reject the God of Abraham. Period. The end. That’s not "hatred" — that’s Jesus’ own teaching.
Thats what this is about. You can't see because you do not want to see..
Yawn
forgive me for being blunt.. But your anger and your pride is way to deep. so deep you can not even listen or understand people.
Eternally Grateful
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No. You actually made a fool of yourself by making claims based no on what I said. but what you think I said.
Thats what happens when people get proud and think they are going to come into a room and shut everyone down.
I would never say this.. This just tells me you have a guilt complex. Probably because deep down. you know you are not right
Eternally Grateful
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she ignores John 3: 10 - 18 she will not even discuss it. if she did. she would see her error
Considering that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, why would God then fail to extend that reconciliation to all the world? Unless, as Paul goes on to say, there is more to the story than that. He, as though God spoke through him, urges the reader, be reconciled to God.
As in Romans 5, speaking of having received the reconciliation.
God did not reconcile the world to Himself only to turn around and deny most of them that reconciliation. But in fact we must believe, and receive Jesus, to receive that reconciliation, and be born again.
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
There is no error from the testimony of the Living Spirit...the Bible doesn’t birth our spirit...that is done by = supernatural divine heart revelation..
You can’t follow directions on how to be Born Of The Spirit ..that is what is called error..I was Born Of The Spirit, with no Bible in sight...Praise God for His Living testimony who indwells my spirit, “ permanently “ when Spirit gives birth to spirit.
All Glory goes to God for the rebirth...not an ounce of any Glory goes to man.my opinion and testimony...
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
There is nothing further to discuss, Jesus makes it perfectly clear on how we are Born Of The Spirit....just like the wind,,,we never know where the Spirit is or when he will give birth to our spirit....I became Born Of The Spirit, with no Bible in sight....I didn’t receive directions like some people say they do, by becoming Born Again...that makes no sense to me...
God brought me to believe in Jesus initially...then gifted me the supernatural faith to know him in my spirit...then I could start walking in faith and believing in Jesus from within my heart...for that is where the Spirit has taken up permanent residence...Born Again of imperishable seed...a Living seed...the Living Spirit.
My calling is to Glorify the Living Power and Spirit Of God/ Jesus...I’m not here to pat myself on the back..saying that I invited Jesus in...I did not...
My testimony is my testimony..your testimony is your testimony..no more valid than anyone else’s..plus all biblical...as the Bible is in harmony with the testimony of the Living Spirit Of God.
The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God....we are spirit children...we are not worldly children...that’s why our spirit must be Born Again to communicate with God...as God is a “ Living “ Spirit..,he is not the Bible..the Bible confirms that Gods is a Living Spirit and a Living seed...which means the same thing.
You can’t follow directions on how to be Born Of The Spirit ..that is what is called error..I was Born Of The Spirit, with no Bible in sight...Praise God for His Living testimony who indwells my spirit, “ permanently “ when Spirit gives birth to spirit.
All Glory goes to God for the rebirth...not an ounce of any Glory goes to man.my opinion and testimony...
John 3
King James Version
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
There is nothing further to discuss, Jesus makes it perfectly clear on how we are Born Of The Spirit....just like the wind,,,we never know where the Spirit is or when he will give birth to our spirit....I became Born Of The Spirit, with no Bible in sight....I didn’t receive directions like some people say they do, by becoming Born Again...that makes no sense to me...
God brought me to believe in Jesus initially...then gifted me the supernatural faith to know him in my spirit...then I could start walking in faith and believing in Jesus from within my heart...for that is where the Spirit has taken up permanent residence...Born Again of imperishable seed...a Living seed...the Living Spirit.
My calling is to Glorify the Living Power and Spirit Of God/ Jesus...I’m not here to pat myself on the back..saying that I invited Jesus in...I did not...
My testimony is my testimony..your testimony is your testimony..no more valid than anyone else’s..plus all biblical...as the Bible is in harmony with the testimony of the Living Spirit Of God.
The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God....we are spirit children...we are not worldly children...that’s why our spirit must be Born Again to communicate with God...as God is a “ Living “ Spirit..,he is not the Bible..the Bible confirms that Gods is a Living Spirit and a Living seed...which means the same thing.
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We are discussing sister. The same as everyone on a forum. I can tell you that I was being stirred by the Lord before I knew Him. That my heart was seeking........truth. No doubt through the prayers and witness of a couple of people I knew. And then I was drawn by the Lord out of the blue one day to go to a church...where they happened to be having what they called a "crusade", a service specifically geared to evangelistic outreach and the preaching of the gospel. When I heard what they were preaching, and God opened my eyes to see that the love they had there was genuine and not cultish, it started an inward kind of wrestling...I wanted what they had but didn't know how to receive it.....my heart was especially seeking it during that week even though it couldn't yet know what it was seeking. Next Sunday I went to that church again and walked out a born again new creature......born of His imperishable seed as scripture says. And I knew/discerned that it was faith not of my own.....it was a miracle. Everyone's testimony of how they got saved is not a carbon copy of everyone else. But what takes place in the new birth is....Spirit gives birth to spirit in every case.....we are born of imperishable seed in every case. Jesus/His Spirit is that imperishable seed. (And He is not to be divorced from His word....He is called the Word made flesh.)
Taken
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You are still trying to debate HOW.
No debate. HOW is by the POWER of God.
I am speaking of WHY.
Because I CHOSE to LEARN His Word.
Because I CHOSE to BELIEVE God Exists.
Because I CHOSE to TRUST God is Faithful.
Because I Experience His Blessings and Gifts and Comfort and Peace.
Because I Choose to Believe and Trust His Word.
A man receives a spiritual spirit, from henceforth, NOT Subject to Death.
No problem for me.
My understanding spiritual, is from God and should be confusing to Carnal Understanding.
No problem for me.
It is not mankind I need to be in agreement with or mankind in agreement with me.
My Spiritual Relationship was Exclusively Established between myself and the Lord God, according to Gods Order and Way, and my spirits Confessed Belief to Him.
Glory to God,
Taken
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Thanks for posting your testimony...like I have explained, everyone’s testimony is different.
No one is divorcing the Living Spirit from the Bible....the Bible confirms that God is a Living supernatural divine Spirit....
I became Born Of The Spirit ,having never read a Bible....God did it all...he saw me searching “ my own heart” on why my life was a mess.....my rebirth came completely out of the blue and completely blew my mind....when God decided in his timing to birth my spirit.
No one can come to the Father accept through Jesus...God drew me to repentance, he drew me to initially believe in Jesus....and he birthed my spirit into his.
There is my testimony....33 years and counting, I became Born Again...I am being conformed into Jesus image, from the power within my spirit..the Living Spirit who permanently resides in my spirit.....never ever can I be un- birthed from the Living Spirit Of God.
I know who I am in Christ...Hallelujah and Praise the Lord...I Love Glorifying The Living Power Of The Holy Spirit...i live to give Glory to God..no matter how unwell I feel...Praise God always .
Taken
Well-Known Member
No one is saying the Bible births the spirit.
No one is saying man is assuming Glory for Gods Act.
Why Argue against points no one has said?
Ritajanice
Born-Again
I am Glorifying the power of the Spirit...not here to glorify self.
You chose...I was brought to initially believe in Jesus...I did NOT know who Jesus or God truly was...not until he chose to give birth to my spirit...only then did my spirit know God..only then could I believe that he truly existed...because he had revealed his heart to me...when Spirit gives birth to spirit
I believed in my heart/ spirit...once it was birthed...I could only initially believe in Jesus...as God brought me to initially believe in Jesus....without the rebirth....I wouldn’t know the Living Spirit Of God.
My spirit knows the Love Of God, it also knows that it’s be birthed in the Spirit...by Gods Living witness..His Living Spirit.
That is your belief that your understanding is spiritual @Taken ...it can’t be proven...no more than my spiritual understanding comes from God.can be proven.
My understanding is not carnal.....by understanding comes from the Living Spirit Of God....he is Gods Living testimony..who witnesses Gods truth to my heart/ spirit.
The natural man has no understanding of spiritual matters..for they are spiritually discerned....all my spirit knowledge comes from the Living Spirit Of God.
Me neither..I do not have to be in any agreement with you.
I’m in agreement and in harmony with the Living Spirit...who Glorifies the Father through me...my calling is to Glorify the power of the Living Holy Spirit...Praise God.
Who chose to birth me in the Spirit....I had no say in the matter.
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
I’m not arguing..you are doing your fair share of arguing?
My spirit was birthed by Gods Living testimony...all Glory goes to God...I had no say in becoming Born Again...I was chosen and predestined to become a child of God...and I’m here Glorifying his Name...as it’s the Spirit in my spirit who is Glorifying the Father through me....the Living Spirit Of God can never be denied..
The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God...I know who I am in Christ....
Amen. You didn't resist Him when He called. You were apparently ready to receive, because your heart was starting to seek answers and so He graciously showed you THE answer. That takes no glory away from Him at all. He is even the one who allows what He allows or sends in our life to help make us ready, whatever we happen to need.
I think there are many who just won't receive Him no matter what He does...bible says we are elect/chosen/predestinated according to His foreknowledge........ of how we will respond to Him, whether to accept or resist Him.
So let’s recap.
You’re quoting Genesis like it cancels 1 John 5:12?
“He who does not have the Son does not have life.”
That’s not symbolic.
That’s final.
You're clinging to a dusty land grant…
But God already declared:
“No one comes to the Father except through Me.”
— John 14:6
Every promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was a foreshadow — not the end goal.
Jesus Christ is the Seed (Galatians 3:16).
Not the modern Knesset. Not a temple blueprint. Not a war-mongering priesthood.
You claim there's an “eternal land inheritance”?
Sure — it’s called the New Jerusalem, and only those in Christ get in.
“The kingdom shall be taken from you.”
— Matthew 21:43
That was the death sentence to any idea of inheritance apart from the Son.
The “eternal gift” you're defending without Christ is not a blessing — it's a delusion.
Scofield lied.
The Gospel didn’t.
No Christ, no covenant.
No exception.
What you’ve been Scofield-brainwashed with is:
"Jesus came... but that doesn’t change anything about the promises to national Israel".
Which is the exact opposite of what the New Testament teaches.
Jesus didn’t come to delay or pause the covenant — He came to fulfill it.
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.”
— Matthew 5:17
The true heirs of the covenant are those who are in Christ — not bloodline descendants.
“And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
— Galatians 3:29
The physical land was a shadow — the reality is in Christ.
“But now they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.”
— Hebrews 11:16
God’s promises to Israel were never unconditional.
“Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine.”
— Exodus 19:5
And when they didn’t?
“The kingdom will be taken from you.” — Matthew 21:43
So, the covenant is eternal, but the fulfillment of it in Jesus Christ is somehow optional? That’s not Christianity — that’s theological schizophrenia. You can’t cling to the shadows of the Old Covenant while rejecting the One they pointed to. The New Testament makes it crystal clear: the promises to Abraham are inherited through Christ alone, not through bloodlines, land deeds, or national flags. Elevating ethnic Israel above the Gospel is not just doctrinal error — it’s a Zionist mutation of the faith that makes Jesus a footnote instead of the cornerstone. If the Son is optional, the Gospel is over. Period.
You may as well tear your Bible in half and throw the New Testament away — because that’s exactly how you treat it.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
God does not say how we will respond to him...those are your added words....confused words at that...because they aren’t Gods words.
Foreknowledge means exactly what is says it means...
Don’t put words into my mouth.Sister...he did not call me..he birthed my spirit...my calling is to Glorify the power of the Living Spirit.
No Lizbeth..I was chosen and predestined to become a child of God...all in his timing..God opened my heart to receive the Living rebirth.
No he did not graciously show me any answer...you are not speaking my language..you are speaking from your own opinion.
I have no understanding of rejecting God....because I was chosen and predestined to become Gods child....
You have given your own opinion and I’m in complete disagreement with it..all of your post I disagree with.
I am rooted in the Living testimony of the Spirit...who continues to witness Gods truth to my heart...my testimony will NEVER be denied to accommodate your belief system.so I suggest you stop trying @Lizbeth
I have no intention of forcing my belief onto you...as I’m 100 % secure in the Living testimony of the Spirit..who resides in my spirit...” permanently “...never ever can I be un- birthed from the Living Spirit Of God.
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amigo de christo
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Did you know that a man can qouate what you just said
which true it is
AND YET that same man knows not GOD and HIS LOVE .
SO the real test is
WHOSE WORDS do they love . SEEING you nor me or anyone has EVER SEEN GOD .
WHOSE words do we love .
If one TRULY IS born again , WELL THEY WOULD HAVE LOVED THE TRUTH .
Cause rita , did you know there are people out there that can quoate truth
and YET NOT KNOW IT OR LOVE IT . A FACT sister .
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