Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

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I must admit, I doubted that you did have a personal encounter and ongoing relationship with Jesus the Christ.

If you do, have you prayed for the likes of myself or do you just continually accuse us, judge us and condemn us?
Do you ask God that He will have mercy on us or that His wrath would be poured on us?
You said: "Life with God outside the bible is great!"

Eternity in Hell is not so great!
 

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You said: "Life with God outside the bible is great!"
Absolutely, life with God and His Spirit everywhere is great. Unlimited scope to explore and find truth.

For those who limit themselves to a book, go for it. But how restrictive that is. Sad in fact. I pity those who choose to imprison themselves within the confines of the bibles.
 

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You said: "Life with God outside the bible is great!"

Eternity in Hell is not so great!
Agreed. And the blood of Christ redeeming everyone in hell is brilliant news hey. I can't wait to see this event.

God's mercy endures forever, without end.
 

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You said: "Life with God outside the bible is great!"
You know that there are no fences or locked gates surrounding God's truth. Only humans have put them up in an attempt to deprive the free flow of the Spirit of Truth. Of course that is completely futile, yet some have rigorously tried. Truth can be found anywhere and everywhere. Even in the mouth of Satan.
 

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Absolutely, life with God and His Spirit everywhere is great. Unlimited scope to explore and find truth.

For those who limit themselves to a book, go for it. But how restrictive that is. Sad in fact. I pity those who choose to imprison themselves within the confines of the bibles.
""Life with God outside the bible is great!""

You think Hell is great?
 

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Agreed. And the blood of Christ redeeming everyone in hell is brilliant news hey. I can't wait to see this event.

God's mercy endures forever, without end.
But you said you're gonna burn in Hell FOREVER! Don't you even know what you said?
 

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Agreed. And the blood of Christ redeeming everyone in hell is brilliant news hey. I can't wait to see this event.

God's mercy endures forever, without end.
You didn't get any of that from the Bible!
 

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You know that there are no fences or locked gates surrounding God's truth. Only humans have put them up in an attempt to deprive the free flow of the Spirit of Truth. Of course that is completely futile, yet some have rigorously tried. Truth can be found anywhere and everywhere. Even in the mouth of Satan.
"Life with God outside the bible is great!" is life without Christian Salvation! You made a very bad choice.
 

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Aionios mistranslated as "eternal" or "everlasting" in Matthew 25:46.

All these verses below use the same NT Greek word, "aionios", the Greek word mistranslated as "eternal" or "everlasting" in Matthew 25:46. See bold below. This shows that "aionios" cannot mean eternal or everlasting.

That's tricky...

Matt 25:46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” [ESV]
Matt 25:46 And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.' [YLT]

If punishment is not everlasting, our salvation isn't either.
 
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Here's a question:
What do the three biblical doctrines of the final judgement say about the character of God?
1) Damnationism (eternal conscious torment)
2) Annihilationism (complete destruction)
3) Christian Universalism (Ultimate Redemption/UR)
All 3 are in conflict with each other :confused

You can build your case for all 3 and there are a number of x passages that are contradict.

It's a bit like end-of-time doctrines sml
 

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If punishment is not everlasting, our salvation isn't either.
BINGO!
That's a good observation and great question. Thanks.
The good news is that one age can follow the previous one.

The age of evaluation/correction/restoration and reward will only need to happen once.
The future ages can go on for eternity.

Ephesians 2:6-8 NIV
And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus.
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—

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Satan's messengers LOVE preaching against Jesus/God and EVERLASTING Hell Fire!
 

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St. SteVen said:
Here's a question:
What do the three biblical doctrines of the final judgement say about the character of God?
1) Damnationism (eternal conscious torment)
2) Annihilationism (complete destruction)
3) Christian Universalism (Ultimate Redemption/UR)
All 3 are in conflict with each other :confused
Yes.
- Damnationism (eternal conscious torment) is in conflict with both Annihilationism and Universalism
because only Damnationism is eternal punishment.
- Annihilationism (complete destruction) is in conflict with Damnationism and Universalism
because it includes complete destruction.
- Christian Universalism (Ultimate Redemption/UR) is in conflict with Damnationism and Annihilationism
because it includes redemption for all humankind.

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St. SteVen said:
Here's a question:
What do the three biblical doctrines of the final judgement say about the character of God?
1) Damnationism (eternal conscious torment)
2) Annihilationism (complete destruction)
3) Christian Universalism (Ultimate Redemption/UR)

Yes.
- Damnationism (eternal conscious torment) is in conflict with both Annihilationism and Universalism
because only Damnationism is eternal punishment.
- Annihilationism (complete destruction) is in conflict with Damnationism and Universalism
because it includes complete destruction.
- Christian Universalism (Ultimate Redemption/UR) is in conflict with Damnationism and Annihilationism
because it includes redemption for all humankind.

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Why are avoiding quoting the Bible? Who told you you're a Greek language expert? lol