I don't know of any English translation that doesn't prove that Jesus is God, Hell is forever and the Bible is the written Word of God! Why do you constantly ATTACK the Christian Bible and profess to be Christian???????
Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.
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In truth, although most people celebrate Christmas and Easter, the fact is neither are Christian holidays mandated by scripture nor is any day mandated by scripture to revered other than the 1st day of the week.
Easter is pagan and a pagan holiday in worship of queen Eostra which holiday coincided with the Jewish passover at the time of Jesus's crucifixion in Jerusalem. The Greek word in Acts 12:4 where the word Easter is found only once in the KJV (King James Version) bible, is "pascha" which correctly translates as "passover", not Easter. The translators of the KJV took the liberty to insert the word "Easter" instead of using the correct translation of passover (pascha). Easter has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity and worship of the Lord, much the same as Christmas has nothing at all to do with Jesus, his birth, or Christianity. Neither are biblical Christian holidays. This is all man-made nonsense.
sheeplike
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As an ex-JW I really take care, what translation I read and often use the word-to-word translation (Coine-English).
See the differences in John 1.1 and Matt. 5:
New World Translation, JW:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This one was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him,+ and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.
King James Version:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
New World Translation, JW
Matthew 5:3
Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.
King James Version:
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
So, after all these years - I can see the influence, even in using the word of God. I mean, how often was conscious of their spiritual needs used, to make people study the Watchtower?? I do not want to judge - I will never do that. But it made me ask everything - and if I read the Bible I now make sure, to understand correctly. The "a god" against "was God" is clear.
See the differences in John 1.1 and Matt. 5:
New World Translation, JW:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This one was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him,+ and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.
King James Version:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
New World Translation, JW
Matthew 5:3
Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.
King James Version:
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
So, after all these years - I can see the influence, even in using the word of God. I mean, how often was conscious of their spiritual needs used, to make people study the Watchtower?? I do not want to judge - I will never do that. But it made me ask everything - and if I read the Bible I now make sure, to understand correctly. The "a god" against "was God" is clear.
Grailhunter
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The Bible only people deny themselves the whole story of Christianity. The Apostles did not die at the last page of the Bible....Christianity did not end at the last page of the Bible. God did not retire or go silent at the last page of the Bible. Christmas and Easter are good Christian holidays.
Weddings are a Pagan custom....the word wedding actually does not appear in the scriptures and so there is no biblical requirement for a wedding to be married. Are you going you say weddings are bad or not necessary.
Lambano
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There are sufficient warnings in both the OT and NT regarding adding to or taking away from the word of God. Now, the apostles didn't die as you stated, but the word is and was unchanged by them.
And wedding ceremony is in the bible. Isn't the parable of the 10 virgins about a wedding ceremony?
And a ceremony is NOT necessary scriptural. The simple coming together in sexual intercourse constitutes marriage as you then become one flesh.
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Grailhunter
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The Apostles did not die as I stated? How did they die?
10 virgins....Christ still did not call it a wedding.....And try to find the ten virgin ceremony in the Old or New Testament......Bible only people will never figure it out because the answer is not in the Bible.
And you are right....two people in love that make love are married. The Protestants made church marriage ceremonies a requirement to be married in the 16th century.
Christian history continued and God has the right to change things and not violate copyright.
You said the apostles did not die at the last page of the Bible. Now, re-read my response.
And because the word wedding was not used, does that mean it wasn't a wedding ceremony or marriage ceremony? Call it what you will. It still is what it is.
Grailhunter
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Well if we are going to put anything we want in the scriptures we can be more imaginative. But...
history does have a ten virgin thing....you just have to find it.
Again the Apostle did not die at the last page of the Bible....Christianity continued and God was involved.
I really don't know what point you're attempting to make based on my original response. You are now off somewhere else making statements without scriptural support on who knows what topic.
Grailhunter
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Please list your "... sufficient warnings in both the OT and NT regarding adding to or taking away from the word of God." - @DJT_47
Quote from your post #246
Thanks.
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RLT63
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Rev22
| 18 ¶ I testify to the one who hears the words of the prophecy contained in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. |
| 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book. |
Does it matter? You claimed wedding was not inbtge bible. The parable clearly refuses that. It was a wedding or whatever you choose to call it which is immaterial. It was a celebration of two people who were going to be joined together in marriage, which in today's vernacular, it's called a wedding, ba k then, it was a wedding but called or referred you by some other terminology. Once again, dies it matter? And what does this all have to fo with your claim that both Easter and Christmas are Christian holidays? They aren't. There is nothing scriptural or Holy about either one. That's the point I made, further statementing the origin of Easter and that it can only be found in the KJV, and erroneously so. It was 'pascha' in the Greek text, which is passover.
I'm aware of that one.
However, it is only in reference to the book of Revelations. (which was a stand-alone book (scroll) when written)
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Grailhunter
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Don't put words in my mouth.....I said the word wedding was not in the scriptures. Christ nor the Apostles talked about a requirement for a wedding to be married. And most people call the whole thing about the ten virgins a parable.
Christmas and Easter are great Christian holidays. I never said that scriptures speak of them but Christians started them and the Lord's day of worship on Sunday as the Christian weekly holiday. And again you will not find the word wedding in the scriptures nor a requirement for a wedding ceremony to be married in the scriptures.....you think we should stop having weddings? All sources for wedding ceremonies were Pagan.....Gentiles brought that custom into Christianity and the Protestants made church wedding ceremonies a requirement to be married in the 16th century.
Now find where Christ found the ten virgin thing and find where the scriptures say to stop polygamy and concubinage.
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