DOES NO ONE WANT TO BE CORRECTED?
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No--you have either misunderstood, or have been lied to--and now you believe what is not at all true.
Jesus framed the passages in such a way as to offer two possible ways of following--which He clearly stated, saying which way was "not" to be followed.
I have lead you to water..
all scripture------
2 Timothy 3:16-17
not some or parts
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
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I don't agree with you.
Check the title of THIS,,,YOUR thread.
Are YOU not willing to be corrected?
Looks like MANY are telling you that you're incorrect...
but are YOU listening?
NO.
Which erroneous "claim" would that be??
I don't know what you're talking about and am beginning to tire.
You don't seem to reply to my posts.
You're extremely ignorant of not only scripture and exegeting verses,
but are totally in the dark regarding the history of the church.
Again,,,PETER was the leader of the Apostles:
He is the leader of the Apostles as represented in the NT.
1. Jesus gives the keys....the AUTHORITY...to Peter and NOT to the other Apostles. There could only be ONE leader.
Matthew 16:19
19“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”
2. Jesus tells Peter to tend to, and shepherd His sheep.
John 21:15-17
15So when they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?” He said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He said to him, “Tend My lambs.”
16He said to him again a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” He said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He said to him, “Shepherd My sheep.”
17He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Tend My sheep.
3. John shows respect/deference to Peter as he was the elder of the Apostles.
John 20:3-5
3So Peter and the other disciple went forth, and they were going to the tomb.
4The two were running together; and the other disciple ran ahead faster than Peter and came to the tomb first;
5and stooping and looking in, he saw the linen wrappings lying there; but he did not go in.
6And so Simon Peter also came, following him, and entered the tomb;
4. Peter was the first to speak at the gathering of the Apostles - and for the picking of Matthias to replace Judas.
Acts 1:15.....
15At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty persons was there together), and said,
16“Brethren, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit foretold by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus.
17“For he was counted among us and received his share in this ministry.”
18(Now this man acquired a field with the price of his wickedness, and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his intestines gushed out.
19And it became known to all who were living in Jerusalem; so that in their own language that field was called Hakeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)
etc.
5. Peter spoke for the Apostles at the Jewish Religious Court.
Acts 4:6-9
6and Annas the high priest was there, and Caiaphas and John and Alexander, and all who were of high-priestly descent.
7When they had placed them in the center, they began to inquire, “By what power, or in what name, have you done this?”
8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers and elders of the people,
9if we are on trial today for a benefit done to a sick man, as to how this man has been made well,
etc.
There's more but this should suffice.
To say nothing of the fact that Peter was the leader of the church in Rome; one of the 5 important areas of the time.
This is easy to learn of if one is interested:
source: St. Peter the Apostle - Apostle, Fisherman, Leader | Britannica
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I stated that 98% of scripture is for everyone, but not all of it is.
I was saying that in John Jesus is speaking to the Apostles in the chapter under discussion...16.
Your reply is to post 2 Timothy 3:16-17 which states that all scripture is by inspiration and good for teaching, etc.
So let's see:
1. WHICH scripture is Paul speaking of in 2 Timothy?
Was the NT available to Paul?
2. Did Jesus send YOU out on the Great Commission of Matthew 28:19?
Have YOU been to any nations lately to teach and preach?
3. Read John 20:23.
Are YOU able to forgive the sins of others?
Ronald Nolette
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Well you have reinterpreted scripture according to some "special revelation" or whatever you want to call it. that violtates Scripture.
And yes you have indicated that teh Hol;y spirit has contradicted Scripture. Your "special revelations" you claim are from th eone who sent you (which we assume is god unless you are an agent of Satan) contradict the plain teaching of Scripture.
As I have already explained, I am not here to discuss the topic, but to state a problem for all to consider according to scriptures regarding great apostacy and the needs for correction to receive "all truth" promised by Christ. All of which is specifically written about these times.
As for me being corrected--I am willing. But this is not what is now occurring. I am not speaking of my own opinion that we might discuss or debate things, but as it is written, it is not me who speaks regarding these issues, but He who sent me. Which, whoever actually knows the scriptures--would and should be expecting.
We have already covered them.
I have replied to your posts plenty, sometimes requiring multiple replies to cover all the issues in each of your posts.
As for not knowing about knowing and expecting every word from God to come in parable form, thus needing to be considered as not in your own language, but as a new and unknown language to you--these factors are all written...but do remember, fully understanding everything was sealed and restrained until just before the end, which time has just recently come. Here are a few stepping stones leading in that direction (notice that I said that in parable form--as it is the way of God to do so):
I will open my mouth in a parable; (specifically "a" parable--meaning not only those from Christ, but "every word that proceeds from the mouth of God" Matthew 4:4)
And He said to them, “Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables? (In other words, in accord with God first referring to "a" parable, Jesus gave many small examples of what God (Him as the Word of God) has done overall with "every word from God"--as a first step in understand "all parables" that make up the greater "a" parable of God's every word.
If you are skeptical--just start reading from Genesis 1, and after reading every verse or passage, ask yourself "Could this be a parable?"--and you will soon loose count of how many undeniably are even if you are skeptical.
This is not a discussion. I was correcting you. If you want to reject it as you have--fine. But there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
"We have already covered them".
This is my problem here.....you're speaking about something I can't quite catch up with which is why I think I'd like to stop posting here.
My only problem right now is that I hear you talk about God giving you some kind of NEW revelation - or maybe I've misunderstood - and I most definitely will not accept new revelation from anyone.
BTW, This Pope also has some new revelation. Some are happy about it,,,most can't wait till he leaves.
Because: New revelation is wrong revelation.
Above you're discussing apostacy.
I think the horse has already left the stable.
And I was correcting YOU!
With plenty of scripture too....
So, see, YOU won't be corrected but you want all of US to be corrected?
And by what?
Scripture?
No. By you!
I posted SCRIPTURE and you won't accept that you're wrong about Peter being the leader of the Apostles....and that's a small matter in the grand scheme of things.
Scott, I know it must be frustrating to not be able to get your belief across, but you really are asking too much.
Every revelation from God is special. But ask yourself (that you might approve)-- Did not even Jesus "reinterpret the scriptures according to some 'special revelation?'" Why then are you offended when I do the same according to what He Himself has arranged for further revelation during these times?
Why do you trouble yourself so, did not even the apostles of Jesus go to sleep three times after He told them stay awake and pray?
If you are not tracking and can't quite catch up--go back, and go at it slower. I am still here if you have questions. But if you do the same again, the result will be the same. Take your time--time enough for God get a word in...which means listening more than you speak. Relax.
As for "NEW revelation"...what would you call the sealed words mentioned in the scriptures, when they are revealed in their time? Regardless--no one is forcing you to accept anything. Certainly not me.
Okay, baby steps:
Genesis 1:4 - "And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness." Ask yourself: "Could that not be a parable? Is light and darkness not a theme metaphorically referred to throughout the scriptures as "good and evil?" Of course it is--and here it is given in Genesis in parable form...and so it continues.
Not convinced? Then keep reading Genesis and asking the same question about every verse or passage you read.
Okay...you're not listening again.
You have been speaking to me, but it is not me who has been speaking to you (just as it was foretold to occur).
when paul wrote ALL scripture as far as i am concerned it means ALL ,, psst they didn't have the POWER EITHER to forgive sins either
Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
if you wish to cherry pick be my guest .. all means all just like not willing ANY perish . means just that not any
i do my part with who i can i honestly have no time for such things do i go through my Bible and blot out profitable for doctrine is there anything else we should omit ?
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