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It's understandable though in a post Christian world where the Lord is not easily seen anymore. No wonder the Master said
*Existing is heartbreaking. I would probably still be this way if I 100% believed in God. God or no god, this world does not go away, and we have to deal with it no matter what. Don't assume all atheists are like this, some of them live more fulfilling lives than most religious people.
Ahhhhh yes, the "God's plan" line. The god that put a forbidden tree right in front of two humans that were tricked by a talking snake, all while God knew what would happen before it happened. There are innocent people being killed right now, being captured and made to be slaves for decades, being placed in psych hospitals... what's their plan? Even if I'm "important" in God's eyes, I still have to wade through the garbage that is this terrible world that God made.
I continue to exist because I was born. I - like everyone else - was given a life I did not ask for. In a sense, I have to exist, because if someone just checks out early, it hurts friends and family, and if there is an afterlife, they'll probably go to a bad one offing themselves.
God or no god, my view of the world would be the same. My mindset would be the same.
...?? What?
Why did he make it at all?
So they go to a bad/no afterlife just for that?
I already tried that when I was 17, and I got caught in the act before I could finish. It did not go well. The psych hospital I was sent to just made me angrier. This is why I just run the clock out.
Believing in God's existence is one thing, but being a Christian is something I'll never do. There is an insane amount of hypocrisy in the religion, people go to the Bible as "the pErfecT ruLeBooK" when it was written by men, not God, and I'll never believe that the Earth is 6000 years old and started by two people randomly placed in the jungle and tricked by talking snakes.
More like humanity expresses God's presumed perspective in the Bible. I could easily say, "in the beginning, man created god."
"Hey everyone, I'm God. I'm so full of love, that I'm gonna create this broken world full of failures and mistakes, I know what will happen before it happens, but I'll do it anyway. People will be raised Jewish, Muslim, etc. There will be all kinds of different backgrounds, but they better believe in me! No excuses! I'll send them to hell if they don't! I don't care how they were brought up! Because I'm just so loving, guys! Some people will be miserable, homeless, some may be kidnapped and used as slaves, but they still need to believe in me otherwise I'm gonna bop them one at judgement time!"
Given the details I've gotten, this God dude needs to look at himself.
Yeah, I've known that. Here's the catch: I don't care.
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Is that how you see yourself? The person I'm venting to? I appreciate your efforts, but there's been a lot of points that you avoided completely. I'm being told over and over how "God has this plan for me", what about everyone else? What about someone in Africa? I'm actually curious to how you even found your faith at all.
And I believe you said that some of them were too broken to be saved?
No, I said I don't care about the "God doesn't want people running out the clock" thing. Kind of defeats the purpose to make a thread.
That part was more directed to some of the other posters. Funny how Christians pull out the "God's plan" line without explaining anything.
I admire the noble work you do, but seeing such a place would deepen my atheism. Why would create people that will have such torturous and short lives? What does that do objectively? What does that change? What's "God's plan" there?
I said that believing that God exists is one thing, but being a Christian specifically was the problem, due to the logical discrepancies in the religion and the Bible. I'm not asking how you found your faith to argue with you.
This is not a completely one-sided issue. I have made many points and have asked many questions that have gone completely skipped, and I'm not putting that issue on just you alone. As for this Pharaoh thing... huh? What..? God was the one who hardened the Pharaoh's heart for some strange reason. When you talk about helping me, what exactly do you mean? What specific part? Me becoming a Christian?
I would not have asked if I wasn't interested, and I have a feeling you're not telling me because you think I'll insult the answer, but yes, that is your business. I already believe in Christ's existence, and I understand his sacrifice. If believing those things are requirements for heaven, I can't be too far off.
When you go back to the Book of Exodus and read this it makes more sense . . .
