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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    “I suppose you are right about that,” Arius sighed. “Yet I have seen alternative versions of Scripture before, and hesitate to explain them all as the innocent errors of overworked scribes who mistook someone else’s marginal note as a part of the original. I have learned not to underestimate...
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    But I am not looking just at a single sentence. I am looking at three. Two of which confirm that the first is not a necessary, but only a sufficient, condition to salvation -- precisely as its text suggests..
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Let me push back a bit, by quoting the contrary arguments put forward by a Unitarian: Is Matthew 28:19 A Forgery? - BiblicalUnitarian.com
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    There are no other conditions in the verse. (That's what "sufficient" means.) But nothing in the verse gainsays other paths to salvation. Jesus is quoted as saying “For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you” (Matt. 6:14). Is forgiving others...
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    I'm just pointing out that Rom. 10:9 says "If X, then salvation." It doesn't say "ONLY if X, then salvation." And other Xs are also of the form "If X, then salvation."
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    I don't think there is a Trinitarian (or even a Binitarian) counterpoint to that one. But is that the "single" truth that F2F suggests is the exclusive means to salvation? We can't know one way or the other just by reading the verse, because Rom. 10:9 portrays itself as a sufficient...
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    That "there is a single, all-powerful truth that saves" is unhelpful in wrestling with apparent conflicts in Scripture. That's true of the Trinity. It's even true of the contention that "there is a single, all-powerful truth that saves." (One can marshal verses on both sides of that one too!)
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    I appreciate that, APAK. There are lots of posters on this site who are convinced that I am depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Are you including me in this? I've been saying forever that Scripture does not prove the Trinity -- often to the chagrin of my fellow Trinitarians.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Sorry, I missed your meaning. Yes, inconsistent judicial decisions occur, yet the judicial system manages quite well. In the U.S. federal courts, SCOTUS has the last word, and usually takes cases when the circuits are split on a legal interpretation -- so the inconsistency ends up being an...
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    I agree. @Johann may not, but I do. I've been saying this for years. (Like our back and forth in Post #2,755 of The Trinity Can Now Be Discussed.) Scripture is equivocal on the subject. One can marshal verses on both sides...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The legal system handles lawsuits involving inconsistent documents all the time.
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    Sixth Day or Seventh Day?

    Gen. 2:2a in the Masoretic Text states that God completed His work on the seventh day, while the Peshitta, the Samaritan Pentateuch and the LXX has Him completing work on the sixth day. Whether these sources substituted “sixth” in order to resolve the obvious problem of God completing his work...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Why? Can't we live with some Scriptural inconsistency? It doesn't trouble me. Does it trouble you?
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    My word isn't a "someone" at all. But it IS something "other" than me. It is a verbalization I use to communicate, but it isn't "me." I'd still be "me" if I were mute and unable to communicate. My word emanates from me when I choose to verbalize. If you want to call that "always with" me...