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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    What I'm saying is, 2 Peter 3:10-12 has to be fulfilled first. Maybe it only involves 1 hour, maybe 10 hours, maybe a full day, maybe a cpl of days, who knows? The point is, the NHNE don't begin in the meantime, regardless how short or how long 2 Peter 3:10-12 is involving. Once that part is...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    We're not on the same page here, obviously. Per my thinking, the regeneration meant in Matthew 19:28 doesn't even begin until there is first the beginning of the NHNE. While 2 Peter 3:10-12 is taking place, the beginning of the NHNE hasn't arrived yet. The NHNE are everlasting, yet it has to...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    It's a logical deduction if one is Premil like me who agrees with Amil that the NHNE begin with the 2nd coming, yet disagrees Amil is correct that the millennium precedes the 2nd coming. For example. Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    As to your argument in regards to God being the God of the living, this has already been addressed. The context involves a bodily resurrection, not what does or does not happen to a soul upon death. For all we know, the Sadducees in Matthew 22:23 may have believed that souls were created...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I don't agree with you. I see what he is saying as making perfect sense. The reason why you don't is because of doctrinal bias on your part. Here's what I decided to do. I submitted post #172 to chatgpt to summarize in order to see if it could make any sense out of since you insist @Zao is life...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I'm not the only Premil on the planet that has arrived at that conclusion. What choice do I have when I'm not convinced that Amil is the correct position, but do agree with Amils that the NHNE begin during the 2nd coming? Nor am I convinced most Premils are making sense out of Revelation 21:2 in...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    To further prove your point, imagine before God ever breathed the breath of life into Adam's nostrils, He said Adam was already a living soul. Except He did not say Adam was already a living soul before the breath of life entered him. He said that after the breath of life entered him...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    One thing is for certain, if death is still taking place in Isaiah 65:17-20, the era of time it is involving cannot be post the fulfillment of 1 Corinthians 15:28, but must be meaning prior to the fulfilling of that. The reason I bring 1 Corinthians 15:28 up is because it is obvious, thus no one...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Speaking for myself, I tend to think the following is meaning the NJ in question and where it currently is now. John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare(hetoimazo) a place for you, I...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Thinking out loud here, thinking outside of the box, thus food for thought if nothing else. Isaiah 65:20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Some of this I'm able to follow. Some of this I'm having a hard time following. I would think Zechariah 14:16, for instance, should have some relevance here. And that these can't be meaning saved saints that have put on bodily immortality at the last trump, the fact they can be punished for not...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    And here you are undeniably misrepresenting what I'm doing. And you are obviously misrepresenting me on purpose or that you have the most sub par reading comprehension known to man. Which is it in this case since it has to be one of those two things? This is what I clearly and plainly said--- I...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Since the topic of the first resurrection has come up, let's look at the text again. Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I admit I don't fully understand the meaning of Isaiah 65:20. But I do understand the meaning of verses 17-19. And in verse 18 it clearly and plainly says this---But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create. The key words being this---for ever. There is no way that's not meaning...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    What you are doing here is exactly what I do in regards to Amil. Except you all are saying I'm telling Amils what to believe and that I am misrepresenting Amil. And all I'm doing is, just like you here, showing what your theology requires in order to be true. When I do what you are doing here...