No authority!

[CadyandZoe]

All you have is a study club with fellowship and covid nixed the fellowship
All based on private judgement not the church founded by Christ
Christ and His church are one and teach the truth without error jn 8:32 16:13 Lk 1:4 matt 28:19

What I have, is what you have. We have a written record of God's revelation, translated into our own language. God has chosen to communicate his will for mankind through the instrumentality of human language, which is to our advantage because the truth is available to anyone who can read.

Consider your response to me, which quotes scriptural passages. Where did you get the interpretation of the passages you cited? Did your authority tell you what they meant or did you come to your understanding of these passages through careful reading, meditation, and sound reason? What authority wouldn't use isolated, out-of-context, quotations from the Bible to establish their own authority?

I do not trust a so-called authority that allows pedophilia to exist among them. What do such men have to teach me about morality and God's will for mankind? I mean really?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Not in my experience. In my experience Hebrews 4:12 is true. (NLT) For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires.

I talked with a pastor who had the same supernatural experience I did about this verse and how reading the same verse at different times - with the Spirit - gives new revelations. Even St Augustine wrote about this in his famous Confessions.

What did Paul say that would lead us to believe he was speaking about a supernatural experience?

Paul is not speaking about the supernatural transmission of truth in that passage. I'm not suggesting that God doesn't transmit truth supernaturally, but that isn't the subject of that passage. When we hear the phrase "the word of God" we typically mean "the Bible", but in this context, Paul isn't talking about the Bible; he is talking about God's promise. In this context, God's "word" is his promise, specifically, his promise of a Sabbath Rest, one that remains unfulfilled at the moment. It is this promise, Paul says, that cuts deep into the inner man, exposing his or her inner commitments, values, desires, and purity of motive. What do we really want?

 

[Behold]

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[Behold]

I don't see that at all. I am not getting baptized every day. I am not renewing my salvation every day in baptism..

You have said on this fourm, that water has the power to save.
If you want to change that now to suit whatever you will teach next, then help yourself.

Also, that you believe that you can lose your salvation is what defines you as falling from Grace.
Thats the reality.

 

[Behold]

The church fathers are catholic bishops
Who with the popes, saints and doctors taught both that Mary is mother of God Lk 1:43 perpetual Virgin may 1:21-23 immaculate conception Lk 1:49 mother of our savior and salvation Lk 2:30 and our spiritual mother the throne of grace and mother of divine grace 4:16
And the sacraments with water baptism as the initiation into the new covenant
Church 1 cor 12:13

Scientology and Mary Baker Eddy, teach that there is no "sin".
The "cult of Mary" teaches that Mary was sinless, and had no children other then Christ, and she eventually flew from earth to heaven.

What am i showing you?
Im showing you that cults teach a lot of stuff.
Be careful that you dont believe it.

 

[Behold]

I have addressed this contention elsewhere so I will refrain from doing so again now.

Paul teaching that Jesus did not send him to water baptize, is not a "contention". Its a reality.
So, when a cult has issues with this verse, or a cultist, its because they are falsely convinced what we are "born again BY water".
And that LIE, is not going to go away, till Jesus comes back.

 

[BreadOfLife]

How did you miss this, lol? .....

Because I don't dee you rebuking any of them for lying - just me for exposing them.
Good job . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

It was never about eating meat - but disobedience and rejection of the truth.
That's what sin is . . .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Because I don't dee you rebuking any of them for lying - just me for exposing them.
Good job . . .

I don't care about those arguments. I just know you worship a pope and a cold, dead religious system of procedures and ceremonies. It may make you and others feel like you've 'done something' but it is a deceitful counterfeit for what God really wants you to do. This is true on both sides of the Catholic/Protestant fence, but especially true on your side. You show by how you are conducting yourself here that you do not know what really counts.

 

[theefaith]

Did someone say KFC?

peter and the apostles and their successors

 

[theefaith]

What I have, is what you have. We have a written record of God's revelation, translated into our own language. God has chosen to communicate his will for mankind through the instrumentality of human language, which is to our advantage because the truth is available to anyone who can read.

Consider your response to me, which quotes scriptural passages. Where did you get the interpretation of the passages you cited? Did your authority tell you what they meant or did you come to your understanding of these passages through careful reading, meditation, and sound reason? What authority wouldn't use isolated, out-of-context, quotations from the Bible to establish their own authority?

I do not trust a so-called authority that allows pedophilia to exist among them. What do such men have to teach me about morality and God's will for mankind? I mean really?

no we have the one true teaching church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles

 

[Behold]

It was never about eating meat - but disobedience and rejection of the truth.
That's what sin is . . .

"disobedience of the Truth"", does not make any sense.

Listen, iniquity is found in a person or in a spiritual being when they break or transgress God's holy command.
For example, there was no Law, when Adam ate the apple, as the Law came by Moses. However, there was a command given,..."don't eat of that tree", and so, the disobedience was found by breaking the command, which is sin.
It can also be LUST in the heart, that is a temptation accepted.
In other words, you can lust in your heart, and not actually commit the deed in life, yet, the lust is equal to the actual doing, = sin.

 

[theefaith]

Scientology and Mary Baker Eddy, teach that there is no "sin".
The "cult of Mary" teaches that Mary was sinless, and had no children other then Christ, and she eventually flew from earth to heaven.

What am i showing you?
Im showing you that cults teach a lot of stuff.
Be careful that you dont believe it.

only the church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors has the truth free from error Jn 8:32 and 16:13

 

[BreadOfLife]

Let me tell you how to commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Ready.
Simply teach, in public, on a forum for example.... that you can lose your salvation, or that water baptism has the "power" to save.
Have you done this?
Be really careful, that you dont do it every day you are here.

WRONG again.

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit - in the CONTEXT that Jesus described in Matt. 12:22-32 is about final impenitence.
The Pharisees accused Jesus of using the power of demons to cst out demons - but they KNEW that this could only be from God.

I know "context" is a painful word for you - but you need to understand it so you won't continue vomiting out our perverse doctrines . . .

 

[theefaith]

"disobedience of the Truth"", does not make any sense.

Listen, iniquity is found in a person or in a spiritual being when they break or transgress God's holy command.
For example, there was no Law, when Adam ate the apple, as the Law came by Moses. However, there was a command given,..."don't eat of that tree", and so, the disobedience was found by breaking the command, which is sin.
It can also be LUST in the heart, that is a temptation accepted.
In other words, you can lust in your heart, and not actually commit the deed in life, yet, the lust is equal to the actual doing, = sin.

I thought Christians were forgiven
The finished work of Christ and cannot sin anymore after they join the “faith alone” cult?

 

[Behold]

no we have the one true teaching church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles

God founded the Church on Jesus and the BLood of Jesus.

Peter was just a simple minded fisherman who had to be corrected by Paul, many years after Christ was back in Heaven.

Peter is not a Pope, and Peter is not the foundation of anything except a couple of epistles, and in the 2nd one, He states that Paul's letters are equal to the TORAH........they are "scripture".
So, that is an original apostle, stating that a later Apostle's letters are BIBLE, when Peter had them in his hands.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

no we have the one true teaching church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles

You're no different than many Protestant denominations that claim they know the one true way to serve and worship God. It isn't about the correctness of how you do church. That's not what Christianity is about. It's about how you live according to the fruit of the Spirit. God will just have to show you this. You won't see it on your own.

17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18For whoever serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men. Romans 14:17-18​

See, while you, and many Protestants, are arguing about procedures and ceremonies and foods and religious rites, and doctrines, God is telling those who can hear how to live. It's the narrow way and the road that few find. Most Christians take satisfaction out of believing correct things about God and Jesus and the gospel and think the correctness of their thinking and believing and correct church procedures are what it means to be on the narrow road. No, not even remotely true. How you live is what it means to find and walk on the narrow road that few find that leads to life.

 

[CadyandZoe]

no we have the one true teaching church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles

Prove it. You can't because in order to prove it, you need to use scripture alone, which defeats your position.

 

[BreadOfLife]

"disobedience of the Truth"", does not make any sense.

Listen, iniquity is found in a person or in a spiritual being when they break or transgress God's holy command.
For example, there was no Law, when Adam ate the apple, as the Law came by Moses. However, there was a command given,..."don't eat of that tree", and so, the disobedience was found by breaking the command, which is sin.
It can also be LUST in the heart, that is a temptation accepted.
In other words, you can lust in your heart, and not actually commit the deed in life, yet, the lust is equal to the actual doing, = sin.

Tell me which part of the following verses that you have difficulty with:

John 14:6
"I am the way, the TRUTH and the life ...".

1 Tim. 3:15).
if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the CHURCH of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the TRUTH.

Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."

Disobey the pillar of truth - and you disobey HIM, who IS the truth.
Get it now?

 

[Behold]

WRONG again.

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit - in the CONTEXT that Jesus described in Matt. 12:22-32 is about final impenitence.
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You dont comprehend much, but you do like to hear yourself talk on a Fourm.

Let me show you this, which will also fly over your head like Mary's Wings.

1.) Blasphemy AGAINST the Holy Spirit, is not blasphemy OF the Holy Spirit. Blasphemy AGAINST , is to be a person, in Jesus's Day, accusing Him of performing Miracles by Satan's Power.

2. Blasphemy OF the Holy Spirit, is a few things. Including the teaching of a demonic Douay Rhemis bible that says you are "born again BY Water".
Also, its any teaching that says that "Justification by Faith, without works", is anathema, as your "cult of the Virgin" teaches, as one more doctrinal blasphemy.

3. ) Blasphemy is this... John 3:36