Who founded your church?

[Marymog]

Lol, I guess you really didn't get the point of my story then. My experience with people who have been raised Catholic is that it more often turns them away from God than towards him. And yes, this can happen in other sects also. If there is no invitation to receive Christ in a church on a regular basis, I don't want to be part of that church. The main purpose of the Church is what? To go into all the world and preach the gospel and yes, discipleship also, but the gospel should be in the forefront.

One of the purposes of The Church is to settle our differences.....just like it says in Matthew 18:17!

Which church would you like to go to??? Patient Mary.....

 

[Marymog]

are you claiming the church never burned anyone alive?

I am claiming that you never backed up your hundreds of thousands.....and then later on 1 million.....accusation.

You had your chance....you blew it!

 

[jaybird]

I am claiming that you never backed up your hundreds of thousands.....and then later on 1 million.....accusation.

You had your chance....you blew it!

we had this exact conversation way back. the fact that people were burned alive doesnt seem to phase you which is really scary because it makes chills go down my spine thinking of that being done to anyone. you seem to want to ignore that it happened and go wayyyyyyyyyy out in to left field trying to put a precise number on it, who cares what the specific number was.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Good point Lady, scripture does not say that the eunuch or anyone fasted before baptism. The fasting requirement was written in The Didache which was written before some NT epistles so I suspect the 1st century Christians were figuring these things out as they went along possibly, with some guidance from the Apostles. Did you know the Didache was considered by the early Church to be part of Scripture and a must read for Christians? You are the one who said “Actually only the first century had it right” when referring to The Church or early Christianity. I simply told you what Christians taught/practiced in the first century. Are you now suggesting they didn’t have it right??? Soooo Marymog wasn’t adding to Scripture.....your first century Christian brothers and sisters considered The Didache part of Scripture. It didn’t make the final cut of 27 books but it was in the running....

To answer your question “Who taught you that?”....I taught me that. I like to read what our 1st century Christian brothers/sisters practiced, believed etc. We stand on their shoulders and they spilled their blood, gave up their lives so you and I can have what we have today.

Historical Marhy

I have the Didache, and know it was written in the first century so will have to take another look. Another book written in the first century, but others believe around 130 in Alexandria is the Epistle of Barnabas. I LOVE that book and believe it should have been put in the canon seeing as the Didache quoted it. (Pretty hard to do if written in 130). It was also on 6 lists of books church fathers wanted included in the canon. Still haven't found out why it wasn't.

 

[jaybird]

No I meant the ones about pagan and pantheism

lol bless your heart. i want to say something but then you would just use that to avoid the question again.

ok so back to the question, the people that were burned alive for not believing in the trinity, did Jesus tell the church to murder those people?

 

[marksman]

Yes one savior one sacrifice
One mediator and one covenant
How do you become a member and find union with the mediator and therefore God?

How do you become a member and find union with the mediator and therefore God?

 

[Behold]

gymnastics
Paul is an apostle and all apostles are sent to make disciples by baptism

Water Baptism makes you wet.
You can be water baptized 20 times and burn in the lake of fire, for all that self effort.
Millions and millions found this out already, in the last 2000 yrs.

Salvation, is not water, and its not baptism with water.
Jesus said you must be "born again".
Being born again is a spiritual birth, its not related to getting your BODY wet in a tank, or in a river, or in a shower.

 

[Behold]

justification by faith alone is a condemned heresy as requested by luther

That is the Catholic Church's idea of denying the Cross and replacing it with Mary, communion, and water.

Its the Catholic Chruch that teaches that if you Believe what Paul teaches as "my Gospel", ... Justification by faith, without works...
or this verse..."Grace through faith, without works", then you are going to hell for believing what the CC claims is a "lie".

"If anyone believes that Salvation is Faith, as Justification by God, without works, let him be Anathema"..

So, that is the CC, teaching that Paul's Gospel of Justification by Faith, is a "lie", or as you just proved, is what the CC teaches.

 

[Behold]

Notice carefully they were rebaptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins and filled with the baptism of the Holy Ghost at the same event....like you need.

Peter was not water baptized in Acts 2:38.

None of those in the Upper Room were Baptized by water in that Chapter.

And by the way, ive been in the Upper Room.
Its big.

Yet, they were touched by the Holy Spirit.

You need to throw away all your commentaries, as they are ruining you with their false theology.

 

[Behold]

That's not what we teach.

Baptism replaces circumcision of the flesh.
Remember how 8-day-old BABIES entered the Covenant with God in the OT?

Do your homework . . ..

Your church teaches that water regenerates.
So, be honest.
At least admit it.

 

[Truther]

Actualkly, says to by the Authority of Christ's Trinitarian Baptism, per Matt. 28:19.
You're just not bright enough to understand that.

Keep studying - you'll get there . . .

Then WHY do you quote a Catholic about Baptism to prove a point - yet you reject everything else he believes??
That's called, "Hypocrisy", son . . .

....yeah fella, keep studying Papal decrees and dogma. You are sure to wreck your walk with God.

 

[Truther]

That's not what we teach.

Baptism replaces circumcision of the flesh.
Remember how 8-day-old BABIES entered the Covenant with God in the OT?

Do your homework . . ..

Oh, that's right, the RCC also eliminated repentance towards God pre baptism.

Also, the circumcision not made with hands is on the repented sinners heart, fella.....

11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;


Babies don't have a change of heart, but get furious when splashed with water.

Crazy stuff.

 

[Truther]

Peter was not water baptized in Acts 2:38.

None of those in the Upper Room were Baptized by water in that Chapter.

And by the way, ive been in the Upper Room.
Its big.

Yet, they were touched by the Holy Spirit.

You need to throw away all your commentaries, as they are ruining you with their false theology.

Oh, I see..."do as I say, not as I do".

The church started that way?

Ridiculous.

 

[theefaith]

What does this change? You called the church and state killing " heretics justice when the Catholics ruled. But when Catholics were killed you call it murder. That's called hypocrisy.

No in Protestant England it was not not the state for they had separated church and state

 

[theefaith]

lol bless your heart. i want to say something but then you would just use that to avoid the question again.

ok so back to the question, the people that were burned alive for not believing in the trinity, did Jesus tell the church to murder those people?

execution of justice in not murder
What does Exod 22:12 say

 

[jaybird]

execution of justice in not murder
What does Exod 22:12 say

thats not what i asked.
when the church murdered these people did Jesus tell them to do it?

 

[theefaith]

Water Baptism makes you wet.
You can be water baptized 20 times and burn in the lake of fire, for all that self effort.
Millions and millions found this out already, in the last 2000 yrs.

Salvation, is not water, and its not baptism with water.
Jesus said you must be "born again".
Being born again is a spiritual birth, its not related to getting your BODY wet in a tank, or in a river, or in a shower.

Jn 3:5 does not say born by water and born again by the spirit
But born again by water and the spirit!

 

[theefaith]

Water Baptism makes you wet.
You can be water baptized 20 times and burn in the lake of fire, for all that self effort.
Millions and millions found this out already, in the last 2000 yrs.

Salvation, is not water, and its not baptism with water.
Jesus said you must be "born again".
Being born again is a spiritual birth, its not related to getting your BODY wet in a tank, or in a river, or in a shower.

Mk 16:16 acts 8 faith and baptism

 

[theefaith]

That is the Catholic Church's idea of denying the Cross and replacing it with Mary, communion, and water.

Its the Catholic Chruch that teaches that if you Believe what Paul teaches as "my Gospel", ... Justification by faith, without works...
or this verse..."Grace through faith, without works", then you are going to hell for believing what the CC claims is a "lie".

"If anyone believes that Salvation is Faith, as Justification by God, without works, let him be Anathema"..

So, that is the CC, teaching that Paul's Gospel of Justification by Faith, is a "lie", or as you just proved, is what the CC teaches.

Paul does not teach faith alone
1 cor 13 1-3 all faith even without charity avails nothing

 

[theefaith]

thats not what i asked.
when the church murdered these people did Jesus tell them to do it?

murder is forbidden by the fifth commandment the true church cannot murder anyone