Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020

[Grailhunter]

As I said before no investigation like this for murderous mob and Antifa that looted, burned, pulled down monuments, assaulted and murdered people and police....the FBI nowhere to be found! None going to prison. And this is how you can tell that the FBI and the courts, including the Supreme Court have drunk the Kool-Aid and are now communists...leftists if you prefer. Because if it was the murderous mobs that breached the capital, the FBI would be nowhere to be seen and the democrats would be justifying why they did it.

 

[Taken]

As I said before no investigation like this for murderous mob and Antifa that looted, burned, pulled down monuments, assaulted and murdered people and police....the FBI nowhere to be found! None going to prison. And this is how you can tell that the FBI and the courts, including the Supreme Court has drank the Kool-Aid and are now communists...leftists if you prefer. Because if it was the murderous mobs that breached the capital, the FBI would be nowhere to be seen and the democrats would be justifying why they did it.

They are part of the organization...
You know...
"Democrats created the most extensive inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics". Joe Biden

Their mob squad, is still on the dime.

 

[DancesWithGnostics]

Adam is not Satan - that's a crock.

 

[Enoch111]

And this is how you can tell that the FBI and the courts, including the Supreme Court has drank the Kool-Aid and are now communists...

You are absolutely correct. The Deep State (CIA,FBI, DOJ, DHS,etc) along with the Supreme Court and all federal courts, plus the lying media, and the evil social media giants (Big Tech), have all colluded with the Democrats to destroy America as America, and establish a *Peoples' Republic* -- where there is only one party -- the Communist Party of America (with the misleading name of "Democrats"), a few party bosses calling the shots, and absolutely no dissent is allowed.

As things stand, the Constitution, the rule of law, democracy, liberty and justice for all, and free and fair elections are all finished. Within a matter of weeks or months, the USA will become "China West".

Which means that armed revolution a la the American Revolution (or at the very least the surgical removal of key people who have committed treason) is the only option for saving the republic of the United States and its Constitution.

As for the Republicans who have stood up to the Left, they are being singled out for retribution, as is Trump and all his supporters. When Mr Trump had the full powers and authority of the presidency, he allowed himself to be distracted and wasted time on peripheral issues, instead of ruthlessly dealing with traitors and seditionists and ensuring that the election machinery and procedures were thoroughly cleansed. Now he and the whole country is paying the price for his timidity. The Demoncracts will be ruthless is their retribution.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Ignore that line . that was just the pope talking. Pay attention to his real heart . HE thanked god , for this uprising
Okay . his agenda as is theirs , IS to eliminate any resistance by any means necessary . OKAY . LETS KEEP IT REAL .But
Since i am keeping it real . YA cant just stand up and tell the entire world , OKAY TIME TO KILL EVERYTHING that dont agree with us .
NO . ya gotta work on the world with and through propoganda . On day one , HITLER , did not stand up and tell the germans
OKAY WE GONNA KILL US SOME JEWS NOW . NO , ya gotta propogandize . Make them appear evil , make people fear , hate them .
WELL here it comes . POPEY and SIE ORDERS REMEDY will be to propogandize the dangers of , FUNDAMNETALISM .
Wait , was that not the word you were expecting . WELL its men like me they hate most . AND i am not even politcal
ITS THE BIBLE MAN . ITS Those who trust in that book , in the JESUS of that book . Just watch what the news does in the coming days .
Trump was not the target , it was chrsitanity and they gonna use the bad examples to cause folks to think we are all dangerous .

Fundamentalism ? a mate claims to be one and he is of his face with hatred as a foundation, if he had half a brain he would be dangerous. he is a follower that just swallows anything that his gurus claim, not to mention he can not think for himself, as they do all that for him and he just goes about dictating to all that he is totally correct, you can not reason with him, he is just like a Islamic religious type fundamentalist a total nut case pandering to a god and idolising a given path of Mans works. he claims not to support Mans works, but in fact it is just that that he is peddling, one for example is the State they are claiming is Israel, well that is in fact a work of Man, not God at all. but he claims look what we ? did. That was Rothschild's baby, he said so ! and Satan won that with the deaths of 6 million Jews who were a burnt offering that the so called Zionist and their Socialist Nazi lackeys or dupes did their bidding. This fundamentalist dude was always claiming to want to kill all the Moslems and then of late he had a spac attack about the killing of a Moslem by Australian Army that's being debated now in regards to how it was carried out. now he is out for blood on our ADF people slandering them all by going into a Nancy Pelosi act of spastic proportions with no regards to the reality overall, it's just a one sided narrow minded point of view as they say lost the plot like a 5yo brat in a tantrum. this is what you have to put up with spats of childish rage.

But as to the fundamentals of the Bible, well that's another thing altogether. the Bible has no real understanding to one who is not truly born again, it was not written for Carnal people, because they can not pick up on what is truly being said, because it is written in regards to the Holy Spirit that such people who are born again can pick up on what is truly being said, now the carnal who have an open mined to God have hope in coming to understand the Bible, but it's not until one is truly born again that they will have a handle on such things themselves.

The carnal look to others for inspiration and not Jesus Christ, that's why they have gurus to lead them, nothing wrong with people who give one inspiration, we can look to the Saints for that, look at St Paul for one, nothing wrong with that. but I do not idolise him like some do, namely that funda mate, who insist a whole lot of BS about Paul.
Another point about fundamentalist, was not Hitler of some sort of a Fundamentalist position.

Fundamentals are one thing and such is a good position as to a foundation setting, but when looking into fundamentalism this could be anything, so we come to the so called Christian fundamentalist, now witch one is that one may ask ?
All Christians have foundations that they are resting on that a the fundamental frame work, but look at how many denominations that their are, not to mention that all are a business in fact and wanting to be making money. when I became born again I came out from them and into the Kingdom of God. I do not need them as I have Christ Jesus living in me and I in him, Just like Paul did.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

You are absolutely correct. The Deep State (CIA,FBI, DOJ, DHS,etc) along with the Supreme Court and all federal courts, plus the lying media, and the evil social media giants (Big Tech), have all colluded with the Democrats to destroy America as America, and establish a *Peoples' Republic* -- where there is only one party -- the Communist Party of America (with the misleading name of "Democrats"), a few party bosses calling the shots, and absolutely no dissent is allowed.

As things stand, the Constitution, the rule of law, democracy, liberty and justice for all, and free and fair elections are all finished. Within a matter of weeks or months, the USA will become "China West".

Which means that armed revolution a la the American Revolution (or at the very least the surgical removal of key people who have committed treason) is the only option for saving the republic of the United States and its Constitution.

As for the Republicans who have stood up to the Left, they are being singled out for retribution, as is Trump and all his supporters. When Mr Trump had the full powers and authority of the presidency, he allowed himself to be distracted and wasted time on peripheral issues, instead of ruthlessly dealing with traitors and seditionists and ensuring that the election machinery and procedures were thoroughly cleansed. Now he and the whole country is paying the price for his timidity. The Demoncracts will be ruthless is their retribution.

Trump may pull out a Trump card yet that will expose them all, that's why Nancy Pelosi is hysterical running around and Joe Biden is ranting like Hitler in a totally desperate delusional state like a spastic, boy Biden must fear so much of being exposed, to be so desperate as he is to play out this type of dribble.
God help us if Biden gets in as he is totally full of lies, oh he comes across as great showman, I will give him a award for that and Nancy.

Biden will do nothing for the USA but dictate over everyone like a mad man, he claims to be going to unite the people. how ? well with force ! you got to be carful with what them Socialist say, as it's all a game of word play with them, we seen Obama claim that speech "We will" remember that hogwash. We will ? truly means, You will ! not him ? not to mention the We, can be in regards to Them as well on other topics that they are on about. just remember that. Biden makes such statements in such regards, so when he is on about unity. he is truly only regarding his Socialist Mob. He despises the other side in fact and has said so, his calls for unity are totally deceptive.

Biden is like the Borg. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE ! assimilate into the Utopia of Political Correctness, or you do not exist under the utopia game plan.

Look at the claims of Political Correctness as seen to be by the masses, such is a delusion. PC is a delusional concept of two words that just can not be mixed, take the word Political for example, now what is truly correct about a Political position, well nothing truly, one can not find the foundations of such as the epitome of correct at all, so such has no foundation as to such a claim in fact.
Now we come to Socialism and we see under such a system that is utopian in it's makeup and anything can be .
So now we can make up the Law that we can now make up that we are correct ! and the others are not, see ! just like Hitler and the Communist Devils played to that tune.

 

[amigo de christo]

Fundamentalism ? a mate claims to be one and he is of his face with hatred as a foundation, if he had half a brain he would be dangerous. he is a follower that just swallows anything that his gurus claim, not to mention he can not think for himself, as they do all that for him and he just goes about dictating to all that he is totally correct, you can not reason with him, he is just like a Islamic religious type fundamentalist a total nut case pandering to a god and idolising a given path of Mans works. he claims not to support Mans works, but in fact it is just that that he is peddling, one for example is the State they are claiming is Israel, well that is in fact a work of Man, not God at all. but he claims look what we ? did. That was Rothschild's baby, he said so ! and Satan won that with the deaths of 6 million Jews who were a burnt offering that the so called Zionist and their Socialist Nazi lackeys or dupes did their bidding. This fundamentalist dude was always claiming to want to kill all the Moslems and then of late he had a spac attack about the killing of a Moslem by Australian Army that's being debated now in regards to how it was carried out. now he is out for blood on our ADF people slandering them all by going into a Nancy Pelosi act of spastic proportions with no regards to the reality overall, it's just a one sided narrow minded point of view as they say lost the plot like a 5yo brat in a tantrum. this is what you have to put up with spats of childish rage.

But as to the fundamentals of the Bible, well that's another thing altogether. the Bible has no real understanding to one who is not truly born again, it was not written for Carnal people, because they can not pick up on what is truly being said, because it is written in regards to the Holy Spirit that such people who are born again can pick up on what is truly being said, now the carnal who have an open mined to God have hope in coming to understand the Bible, but it's not until one is truly born again that they will have a handle on such things themselves.

The carnal look to others for inspiration and not Jesus Christ, that's why they have gurus to lead them, nothing wrong with people who give one inspiration, we can look to the Saints for that, look at St Paul for one, nothing wrong with that. but I do not idolise him like some do, namely that funda mate, who insist a whole lot of BS about Paul.
Another point about fundamentalist, was not Hitler of some sort of a Fundamentalist position.

Fundamentals are one thing and such is a good position as to a foundation setting, but when looking into fundamentalism this could be anything, so we come to the so called Christian fundamentalist, now witch one is that one may ask ?
All Christians have foundations that they are resting on that a the fundamental frame work, but look at how many denominations that their are, not to mention that all are a business in fact and wanting to be making money. when I became born again I came out from them and into the Kingdom of God. I do not need them as I have Christ Jesus living in me and I in him, Just like Paul did.

and these are who the real target is . cause true lambs dont conform to the mainstream . So they gonna make us look dangerous .
They always find the crazy ones and then say , HEY SEE we told ya they were dangerous . That is what they gonna do .
You , me , other lambs will be blamed for all the ills of this world in the days ahead . OH well , JESUS told me i would have persecution .
Let no one conform to the all inclusive agenda . NOW hands up , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME .

 

[WaterSong]

My dad asked me if I was going to Parler. I said no because I didn't have a cellphone to get the code to join.
Later I said.. I have a feeling like everyone is being herded like shepp into a pen and then they will pull the plug.

Now is time to be local. The interney is controlled by chyna.. we know that.
Once uopn a time we actually had a life without the internet.
Now is a good time to refresh our memories.
The ones who will need us the most are the kids who have been weened on the internet since the womb.
It will be quite a culture shock for them.

I don't know if we will lose the internet indefinately, but it's time to get our heads out of the clouds, get our feet on the ground.
The harvest is ripe.

I was considering Job today. And how he had to go through serious trials and even temptations to curse God and die.
And yet he stood resolute no matter what the storm brought upon him.
America is Job. There are other countries facing this same thing. We are not alone.

Stay strong. Stand firm.
Do not allow yourself to fall into the trap of anger, violence or despair.
Keep your head up soldiers.
We walk by faith not by sight.

God Bless You
Hugs

God bless you as well.
Yes, in one of the videos here we learned that the app by which one could access Parler was exclusive to the Google Play Store. Google pulled it so there was no way anyone could join on their phone. Now the site is down so no one can access it.

We'll get through this. I think the enemies great mistake is underestimating the American peoples resolve.

 

[Freeborn]

I have a copy of Scripture.
Is one of these Scriptures intended to prove a point you are claiming?
If so, I don't see it.
Make your point parallel with scripture.

It is showing what the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is. this was being debated.

 

[WaterSong]

One American News reporting that armed protests are planned in all 50 states...Something like January 16th through the 20th.
Be there or be square!

I smell Soros making a plan for his Satanic troops to be there and really stir up the hate. That could also be all Soros planning from the jump.
If it gets really bad martial law? And with a Demoncrat in our White House & majority in the Congress, it could come to be what the evil planers behind the Covid 19 fear paradigm encapsulated in a new phrase for our nomenclature; our new normal!

Then all the prophecy about ability to buy or sell can come into play too.

With God at our back the enemy hasn't a chance.

 

[Freeborn]

Disagree.

do you have proof or want proof? do you want to know the real truth of God's word? The proof is in Eze 28. If you are interested in proof, I will show it to you. If not, just go on without the truth. as in Adam all DIE. Jesus died to take the key of DEATH away from him, the rebellious son, Adam/satan.

 

[Freeborn]

I smell Soros making a plan for his Satanic troops to be there and really stir up the hate. That could also be all Soros planning from the jump.
If it gets really bad martial law? And with a Demoncrat in our White House & majority in the Congress, it could come to be what the evil planers behind the Covid 19 fear paradigm encapsulated in a new phrase for our nomenclature; our new normal!

Then all the prophecy about ability to buy or sell can come into play too.

With God at our back the enemy hasn't a chance.

The 'buying and selling' in Scripture is not about these natural things. It has always been. It is the making merchandise of the things of God. This is the reason Jesus cast them out of the temple and turned over their MONEY TABLES. It is mark of beast to make merchandise of the things of God.. you cannot do this UNLESS you have that beast mind. not animal. carnal minded folks. to pay for a message, song, or anything else pertaining to God is this mark; not natural merchandising.

 

[WaterSong]

Alright you two....behave! Start a thread and I will come there and kick both of your tails....you see it is always the women starting trouble!!

Silly! It was by one man that sin entered the world.
Given that first, men being responsible for all wars is peanuts. Peanuts that exist because one man's decision to side with a woman and not God brought sin into the world.
If God had created that one man from the dust of the earth, right now rad-fems that run across this thread are thinking, dirt! Man-mud! Grrrrr!, and then created a Yorkie Terrier so that he would not be alone, that last part of your post would be our daily normal:

lol If it wasn't for Eve we would all be laying around naked in Paradise having a bunch of sex and eating grapes and fishing and God would be barbequing!

We now interrupt this thread to throw the bird.

 

[Grailhunter]

FBI Warning! Armed protests in 50 states by Trump supporters!
Did anybody see anything like that for the murderous mobs and those that occupied cities. No! Did the demoncrats protest the rough treatment of those that entered the Capital building and the unarmed girl that was shot in the chest and killed. Communist FBI and demoncrats at work.

 

[WaterSong]

This reply chain is going to take two post spots for my reply due to the character limit applied per post. Thank you for your patience.

Ok. But I am confused at your statement...

I was going by your remarks and expanding on them per the scriptures. What you put in bold in my reply post are your words. as he lets us to be born against him.

Not sure your point.

For context since your post and my response to it are behind this current readers page by now so I'm pasting what you referred to in that quoted remark hereThese were my words) Further, per your perspective, I try to imagine that scripture that tells me when we die the body returns to the dust from whence it sprang. And the soul to the God who gave it, as it would apply to your view:All are naturally born Against God. It is hearing, learning about God, whereby a person can choose to be "Forgiven" for having been Against God and Accept Gods Gift of Power to Never Again Be Against God (thus Free from Sin, thus can Sin NO more)....[end of pasting]
Again, I used your perspective in your post that I was replying to in order to apply what became the Gospel by God's grace that saves those whom you had said "are naturally born against God".

Perhaps my wording was confusing. I'll rephrase.
If we are naturally born against God, per your observation, then it seems odd to me that it would be construed as the grace of God when God later sent himself to deliver a message that, if accepted by us, would redeem us from the state God created us to be born into (naturally born against God) in the first place in order to need saving from it and as such then be reunited with God.

I hope that is easier to understand. If not please let me know I'll give it another shot. :)

To be clear, I never said, a child's birth condemns them to Hell.

Understood. However, would you say if we are "naturally born against God", that state of our birth, being newborns, left unchanged shall result in our dying and going to Hell? Per those scriptures that refer to the fate of the unrepentant sinners.

Every individual posts comments according to their belief.
While we become familiar with people we do not know (such as on a forum), I only know the depth of my study efforts. I have no knowledge of others efforts, except by:
Certain things they do reveal, books they read, commentaries feeds they quote, things as such that feeds their knowledge that they trust.
Again...I comment on topics I know the amount of time, effort, prayer that I personally have studied.
I know what "I" mean by "Study"...and CAN in Brief say; Scripture Only, dictionary, weeks, 8-10 hrs per day, Specific topic.
(I don't begin with a wonderment of a topic, and run to see what a commenter thinks. I don't want that pretext. I want The Lords knowledge. My effort is focused, precisely, because, I want the Lords Understanding.)

To briefly interject here on that very last part.
Are we able to arrive at the Lords understanding when we are created by the Lord to have the intellect and cognitive skills of mere mortals?

Here's something to ponder. Why do we need to find our way to believe in God? When God is a higher power possessed of the Omni characteristics? (Omniscience, Omnipresence, Omnipotent) and is sovereign.
Why isn't it a matter of God believing in his created children, the human race, which sprang from him in the beginning. All things being created are of and from God.

Some would answer, so that we can find our way to God and praise him.
Is God in need of an ego boost? God wants us to praise him for being God when God knows his power and identity far surpasses our own?

My goal is precisely- that;
The Lords knowledge-
The Lords Understanding-
The knowledge is in Scripture-
(And I go STEP by STEP in ORDER of the very basics who, what, when, why, where of the man and God in the scenario)
The Understanding is direct from the Lord-
The benefit result "to me" is:
absolution and zero fear.

I think the Bible can be like unto a map to find our way to understanding God's message to the individual Christian. However, for my part, I don't believe in believing in the Bible itself. The Bible, for all that is said of it being inspired by God, has been, how shall I say, written and changed by men for centuries. As Biblical historians attest. I think God of course having foreknowledge of this put into those writings the warning to us so that we'd realize this and look deeper when it is said, do not believe every spirit but test the spirits.

Yes my natural body is OUT from my habitat, earth. And yes, what is IN the earth, are the elements/minerals that maintain the life of my flesh body.
Yes my Lord God, brought my body into a state of "Individual" life, with a soul, via His Breath of Life.
Yes I was conceived and naturally born in sin.

That last part was not your own doing. It was predestined by the creator.

Yes at my natural birth, I did not have the capability to know God, or cognitive ability to learn about God.

As pertains to religious knowledge of God, yes I agree. However, I believe newborns are the closest any human shall ever be to God being they'd just arrived from that place that is God.

Yes on the day of my natural birth, particular things became expressly possessive "to" me and "of" me.
Meaning;
I "am" a Body, and I "have" a body.
I "am" a soul, and I "have" a soul.
I have a Name.
I am Called "by" many "names".
I am called "many things", i.e. descriptions.

Being naturally conceived and born IN Sin (...did not condemn me).

Again, that last part, but it did condemn you when you were born into the flesh that is human and that is destined to sin if one believes they were naturally born in sin, i.e a sinful state.

God IS Just.
There is a balance.
Capability to hear and learn about God;
And Opportunity to hear and learn about God;
...a baby is not capable.
...an isolated Person may not be aware

Note. When I ask these questions it isn't a matter of saying I don't believe the Bible. Rather, it is a means of challenging a perspective as written and to see if perhaps a different perspective is possible.
Per that first part in your quoted remarks above. If God is just, after dying on the cross to seal the promise of his grace unto salvation, why are we still born sinners, and again referring to your words/perspective, as God lets us to be born against him, still?

Gods teaching is clear....(follow the order)
...follow the man..success, fails, new directive
...baby's are excepted from condemnation.
...directive to parents...teach Gods Truth
......parents fail, children grow- Truth they are now opportuned, capable to seek.
....Jesus' directive- hear- spread His Truth.
...Opportunity opened for whole World to hear, their choice. Take advantage of Opportunity to Learn...or not.
...isolated...they ARE as a baby...don't know, are not with or against specific knowledge.
God searches Heart- not the Cognative Mind.
A man's Heart...can know by Seeing Gods wonderments, there is something, bigger than himself, whether or not he can name the bigger "thing".

 

[WaterSong]

[/QUOTE] I agree babies are not condemned. However, you said of them, because you were speaking of the whole of the human race, they are born against him. I would also disagree that God lets us be born against him. We do not choose. God rather, per your perspective, would then actually create us, intend us, to be born against him.
I would ask why that is, when God let himself be that propitiation, that sacrifice on the cross, for our sins that make us condemned. And that too was per Gods ordination. The condemned sinner state that would need a savior.

The progression over 2,000+ years...nearly the entire world has heard. Excuses for (I haven't heard)... becoming nil.
Excuse...(one Chooses not to learn About, what they heard) ... their choice and their Consequence...
ALL Scripture is True...
But All Scripture does not Apply to every Individual. (Proper application per individual is paramount).

I agree that proper comprehension is necessary. However, I don't accept that all scripture is true because not all scripture is written to be understood in simple human terms as pertains to reading something written.

The scriptures are, as I see them, gateways to understanding beyond the simple words used within them. Allegory, metaphor, simile, parable, writing styles make for the as it has been called, mystery tradition, that are the words from God.

This is why it is not literally true that the mustard seed is the smallest seed in creation. An orchid seed is the smallest seed in creation. However, that passage in Matthew 13 , was written for the comprehension, the metaphor, allegorical message, that would speak to a largely agrarian society at that time. And to their knowledge then the mustard seed size would let them to comprehend with the visual of a mustard seeds size, the full meaning of the parable itself. Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 13 - New English Translation
He gave them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that a man took and sowed in his field. 32 It is the smallest of all the seeds, but when it has grown it is the greatest garden plant and becomes a tree, so that the wild birds come and nest in its branches.”

My body came from Dust OF the Earth and IS sentenced to die ONCE.
(One death, is my (body's) consequence for being naturally born in the flesh).
When that ONE Death...is physical...my physical body Shall return to the Earth, out from whence it came.
2,000+ years ago Jesus Offered men a New Testament (new, because it was knowledge that had been kept secret).
A new death. A Spiritual death. A new body for a man to BE IN. Jesus' risen body.

Thank you for sharing your testimony. :)
When I pass I will be cremated and scattered across the ocean.
For me, the death of Jesus on the cross was to show that the physical body is perishable. It is able to be killed by man for any number of causes or reasons. However, with Jesus ascension from the realm of death as people in that time perceived it given all Jews in that area of Rome's occupied territory were well aware of the horror and resultant death related to being crucified, he showed that we are more than the flesh we feel compelled to care for and about.That we are merely wearing this flesh and are actually immortal spirit.
However, the world would have us believe we are just flesh and are easily killed and made to end at death.

When in reality, that separation we've been let to believe exists because we are in the flesh is the illusion. For, as Jesus showed, when the flesh dies the immortal glorified spirit/soul ascends from that state of what was thought eternal death to live forever. And therein the separation, by Jesus' demonstration, is an illusion when we think we're separated from God while on earth in the flesh. The soul is from God. We become a living soul and as such it is impossible to be separated. It is the veil of this world and our occupation with the material that leads us to believe first in that. While Jesus showed us we are able to believe we are more and find it to be truth by his example.

The people who saw him die on the cross, those not his Apostles, thought him dead like every other prisoner crucified.
When he walked the earth for 40 days, (40 in Hebrew Biblical numerology represents trial of faith), all who saw him, including of course his Apostles, knew they were more than flesh because their master lived the truth of his message of eternal life in him.
As we are always in always. It is the illusion of this world that leads us to not know that at first.

I chose, that Offering of Jesus' risen Body.
Regardless if My physical body is dead...I opted to live in Jesus' risen body.
I expect (because I Trust to believe Gods Knowledge), God, to Separate, unto Him...every WHOLE "individual"...
Who...heard, learned, accepted His Truth, committed to His Truth, on the day He Elects, Quickly.
"Individual" (whereby what one does, does not effect another Choices or Choices / vise Versace)
"WHOLE"...body, soul, spirit
My WHOLE...body IS prepared.
"Prepared"...bodily Death ONCE fulfilled (crucified with Christ)
"Prepared"...soul Restored. (was given me "Very good")...(Gen 1:31)
...corrupted by being in my corrupt flesh...
...(Gal 5:19-21)
...Forgiven
...(Psalm 32:5)
restored TO "Good",
...(23 Psalm)
acceptable to God...
...(Rom 14:18)
He Saved unto Himself....for His pleasure.
...(Rev 4:11)

Body returns to Dust:
Ecc 12-7

All souls are Gods.
Ezek 18:4

Not sure precisely what you are challenging.

God Bless,
Taken

When our soul/spirit is of and from God, I believe we are always in Christ/in God. Because we are always in all ways created of and from God.
God said, all souls are mine.
Yes, because all that is is of and from God.

The real message in all the scriptures is to remind us of that. Have I not told you ye are God's? Some take that to mean we are like unto demigods, god's in our own right. However, I believe what Jesus was saying in John 10 is that we are God's, we are his, from him, and in him. As is all that is, was, or ever shall be.

Thank you.
May God bless you as well. :)

 

[BarneyFife]

 

[BarneyFife]

Well, it's been 5 days now and I still can't get over the shock. It's not the actual insurrection itself that spooks me. That could never have been ultimately successful. What I can't understand is how someone could be so retarded to think that it might be a good idea to break into the U.S. Capitol. And that these people actually come from all of our neighborhoods.

 

[Mayflower]

Well, it's been 5 days now and I still can't get over the shock. It's not the actual insurrection itself that spooks me. That could never have been ultimately successful. What I can't understand is how someone could be so retarded to think that it might be a good idea to break into the U.S. Capitol. And that these people actually come from all of our neighborhoods.

If people feel unheard, it leaves them feeling hurt and angry, thinking irrationally. I firmly belive antifa was involved, but trump is not perfect and neither are trump supporters. I condone nothing that went on at the capitol. But did you hear about the millions marching in peaceful protest? Nope. My pastor was there. Amazing pictures. And I read one article that said just a little over a hundred marching at first? No one had to fact check that. In history, oppression and silencing has always lead to revolting and war. I don't want either one of those. But I will speak the truth. I don't know what is true anymore. It really is all hearsay. I just trust the Lord and fight what I know is right and wrong. Abortion,voice oppression, having a right to borders and guns, and religion....some of the big ones. Preparing for the worst, praying for the best, and turning my eyes upon Jesus. He is my Savior and King.

 

[Brakelite]

This reply chain is going to take two post spots for my reply due to the character limit applied per post. Thank you for your patience.

I was going by your remarks and expanding on them per the scriptures. What you put in bold in my reply post are your words. as he lets us to be born against him.

For context since your post and my response to it are behind this current readers page by now so I'm pasting what you referred to in that quoted remark hereThese were my words) Further, per your perspective, I try to imagine that scripture that tells me when we die the body returns to the dust from whence it sprang. And the soul to the God who gave it, as it would apply to your view:All are naturally born Against God. It is hearing, learning about God, whereby a person can choose to be "Forgiven" for having been Against God and Accept Gods Gift of Power to Never Again Be Against God (thus Free from Sin, thus can Sin NO more)....[end of pasting]
Again, I used your perspective in your post that I was replying to in order to apply what became the Gospel by God's grace that saves those whom you had said "are naturally born against God".

Perhaps my wording was confusing. I'll rephrase.
If we are naturally born against God, per your observation, then it seems odd to me that it would be construed as the grace of God when God later sent himself to deliver a message that, if accepted by us, would redeem us from the state God created us to be born into (naturally born against God) in the first place in order to need saving from it and as such then be reunited with God.

I hope that is easier to understand. If not please let me know I'll give it another shot. :)

Understood. However, would you say if we are "naturally born against God", that state of our birth, being newborns, left unchanged shall result in our dying and going to Hell? Per those scriptures that refer to the fate of the unrepentant sinners.

To briefly interject here on that very last part.
Are we able to arrive at the Lords understanding when we are created by the Lord to have the intellect and cognitive skills of mere mortals?

Here's something to ponder. Why do we need to find our way to believe in God? When God is a higher power possessed of the Omni characteristics? (Omniscience, Omnipresence, Omnipotent) and is sovereign.
Why isn't it a matter of God believing in his created children, the human race, which sprang from him in the beginning. All things being created are of and from God.

Some would answer, so that we can find our way to God and praise him.
Is God in need of an ego boost? God wants us to praise him for being God when God knows his power and identity far surpasses our own?

I think the Bible can be like unto a map to find our way to understanding God's message to the individual Christian. However, for my part, I don't believe in believing in the Bible itself. The Bible, for all that is said of it being inspired by God, has been, how shall I say, written and changed by men for centuries. As Biblical historians attest. I think God of course having foreknowledge of this put into those writings the warning to us so that we'd realize this and look deeper when it is said, do not believe every spirit but test the spirits.

That last part was not your own doing. It was predestined by the creator.

As pertains to religious knowledge of God, yes I agree. However, I believe newborns are the closest any human shall ever be to God being they'd just arrived from that place that is God.

Again, that last part, but it did condemn you when you were born into the flesh that is human and that is destined to sin if one believes they were naturally born in sin, i.e a sinful state.

Note. When I ask these questions it isn't a matter of saying I don't believe the Bible. Rather, it is a means of challenging a perspective as written and to see if perhaps a different perspective is possible.
Per that first part in your quoted remarks above. If God is just, after dying on the cross to seal the promise of his grace unto salvation, why are we still born sinners, and again referring to your words/perspective, as God lets us to be born against him, still?

I think the Bible shows is the way.
The Way