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He's saying President Trump is undermining the election by saying there is Fraud.Can you help me understand what they're saying?
Nevermind that Fraud is happening and that undermines the election.
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He's saying President Trump is undermining the election by saying there is Fraud.Can you help me understand what they're saying?
He's saying President Trump is undermining the election by saying there is Fraud.
Nevermind that Fraud is happening and that undermines the election.
I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the ability of persons located, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States to interfere in or undermine public confidence in United States elections, including through the unauthorized accessing of election and campaign infrastructure or the covert distribution of propaganda and disinformation, constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. Although there has been no evidence of a foreign power altering the outcome or vote tabulation in any United States election, foreign powers have historically sought to exploit America’s free and open political system. In recent years, the proliferation of digital devices and internet-based communications has created significant vulnerabilities and magnified the scope and intensity of the threat of foreign interference, as illustrated in the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment. I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with this threat.
Part of the executive order written by Trump.
It is ironic because Trump is doing this
"undermine public confidence in United States elections, including through the unauthorized accessing of election and campaign infrastructure or the covert distribution of propaganda and disinformation, constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States."
Maybe he should arrest himself and get thrown into prison. By claiming that the US elections are fraudulent and the authorities who are saying there is nothing fraudulent or wrong in the results, is undermining public confidence.
I would say the judgement is guilty as charged. Trumps tweet today proves it, sad very sad.
velcum to sie order . Sorry i had to put the german accent or typecent on it .Remember when Hillary had a reset button with Russia?
And Obama said he would have more flexibility after the election?
Who's colluding with who??
I remember right around Y2K knowing what's in this video is coming.
I just didn't know if I'd still be around to see it.
I'm hoping for an uprising and bringing that crazy system down.
I think it may be a combination of Egytian/Babylon/Rome.. all rolled into one.
Armour of God and hazmat suits..
Amen
Hugs
But sie order does have power . And either biden goes along , which He is part of it already , or they get rid of him and bring in harris .Exactly, it's the same as somebody saying that they hate Jesus,.. doesn't change the fact that He still loves them anyways and is still king. Of all the attacks by BLM last night not a word from Biden. Yet even if Biden supporters were getting attacked I'm pretty sure Trump still would have scolded the police for not doing their jobs. Actions really speak louder than words and Biden is all talk and no action.
In contemporary terms what is happening with the scandal behind this stolen election is like unto a suspect in a homicide being seated in an interrogation room. They're sitting before detectives that have file upon file of evidence against that suspect.Exactly, it's the same as somebody saying that they hate Jesus,.. doesn't change the fact that He still loves them anyways and is still king. Of all the attacks by BLM last night not a word from Biden. Yet even if Biden supporters were getting attacked I'm pretty sure Trump still would have scolded the police for not doing their jobs. Actions really speak louder than words and Biden is all talk and no action.
In contemporary terms what is happening with the scandal behind this stolen election is like unto a suspect in a homicide being seated in an interrogation room. They're sitting before detectives that have file upon file of evidence against that suspect.
They even have video.
The suspect insists repeatedly, I didn't do it. That's not me!
"All this fraud" After working in IT I understand how the reasons for failures and issues can be complex and theorising never helps.
Elections are now electronic with networks feeding in numbers from all over the place. Because you get communication failures you have to check the data and verify, and correct it when there are failures. Now the problem with displaying numbers as they are sent real time, the audit etc if often not done till later.
Unless you know in detail the systems and verification processes one has no clue. The compromise is to give everyone the general position to see how it is going, so that they can see like everyone the trends etc. If you start to say fraud because of seeing the process build up and adjust, you encourage people to hide this data until verified and certain. From my perspective I would rather see it all, and at the end see the figures are water tight. It is unfortunate that political capital can be made on a robust process. And with the best will in the world there will be fraud and mistakes. The key issue is the cost to keep this minor in impact, compared to making everything 100% clean with voter ID, pre-registration and authorisation.
One solution is simply to force all voters to vote through their most secure identification channel. In certain cultures this is ok, in others an infringement of their rights. So one discovers in reality it is always a compromise.
With the internet and everyone using a secure email address through which everything flows, maybe moving voting to this ID would work as it is becoming the defacto definition of how to contact people. In the UK it is normally based around ones address, as this changes slowly, ie every few years or so.
But the issue is not about voter identification rather about who to undermine a victory by an opponent.
This is not going to end well as Trump refuses to acknowledge he has actually lost the vote, and legitimately the government will put a new president in the white house whether he likes it or not. I suspect the sad reality is this guy could push things to civil war. The language and drum beat is going that way. Unless people break the spell of the crumb trail......
The candidate who supports build back better . THE GLOBAL RESET . THAT is who benifited from it .Hard to follow your train of thought here. You seem to first describe the characteristics, common usage and issues and restrictions associated with electronic-computer assisted voting machines. Then you suggest a way to increase its safe use. Then you conclude this idea is rubbish anyway because you feel the election issue all along is to undermine an opponent.
I guess you are not up with the real concerns already voice by many in public media concerning these types of machines used in this election. The issues are centered on the creation, management and effectiveness of software embedded primarily in these machines, for the sole purpose of committing widespread and deliberate criminal fraud. Now I wonder which candidate might benefit from this dastardly deed?
Are you blind?
Right on....The candidate who supports build back better . THE GLOBAL RESET . THAT is who benifited from it .
For sie order is the one whose motto is build back better .
Covid was the perfect weapon . They took full advantage . WHY do you think they were huge on pushing mail in voting .
And why did the counting in swing states cease as trump was making all kinds of gains over biden .
But when it resumed , biden made a come back . SNIFF , SNIFF . ME smells a rat .
Likely not.And they don't call this evidence?
One party wants to abolish the electoral college. Do we now know why?
It would turn the US into a communist country to let the popular vote win, as is the case in most modern democracies? How so? I didn't know communism is that popular in the US.Yes,.. that would mean less chance for our voice to be heard and more of a chance for America to turn into a communist country.
Picture this. If the popular vote decided the presidential election in America Hillary R. Clinton, not Donald Trump, would have been campaigning for a second term this past November 3rd.It would turn the US into a communist country to let the popular vote win, as is the case in most modern democracies? How so? I didn't know communism is that popular in the US.