Waiting on him
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I know, sure glad I didn’t say that.
so according to you I have a flesh God walking inside of me?
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so according to you I have a flesh God walking inside of me?
Waiting on him
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2 Corinthians 6:16 KJV
[16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them ; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
the same Spirit that walked Jesus up the hill walks me.
[16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them ; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
the same Spirit that walked Jesus up the hill walks me.
The Son is both the 2nd and 3rd Persons of the Trinity; the Holy Ghost is Jesus (His Spirit).
And therefore, it is a Spirit who dwells within you. And that Spirit is "Christ in you, the hope of glory." (Colossians 1:27).
ChristisGod
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Waiting on him
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John 14:22-23 KJV
[22] Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? [23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
No, I didn't. The doctrine of the Trinity as it truly stands does not deny the Oneness of our Lord.
Also, in emphasizing the Oneness of the Lord, I do not deny that He is also three.
101G
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here is the defining term, John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24, is this the same person in both scriptures, else you have two different creators... NOW THAT'S DEFINING....
YIKES!. you worship an Idol that has three personalities... well?
just a few words to your reply.... "go and study with the Holy Spirit".
REMEMBER, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
There is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4).
The Father (John 4:23-24, Ephesians 4:6), the Son (Colossians 1:27, Ephesians 3:17, 1 John 5:12), and the Holy Ghost (John 7:39, 2 Timothy 1:14).
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There is one Lord (Mark 12:29, Ephesians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 8:6).
The Father (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21), the Son (1 Corinthians 8:6, 1 Corinthians 12:3) and the Holy Ghost (2 Corinthians 3:17).
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There is one God (Ephesians 4:6, 1 Corinthians 8:6).
The Father (Ephesians 4:6, 1 Corinthians 8:6), the Son (Hebrews 1:8-9), and the Holy Ghost (Acts of the Apostles 5:3-4, Romans 8:26-27).
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Consider Ephesians 4:4-6 in light of this revelation.
There are not nine members in the Trinity.
See Titus 2:1 (kjv) for my rationale in telling you these things.
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101G
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That's another ERROR of the day for you Ronald. the Lord Jesus cedes nothing, but gain all things, you have another false assumption of beliefs, and again you promote a false doctrine through ignorance.
lets get educated.
“The subjection of Christ within God, his own Spirit”
scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:27 &28 "For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all".
oh how ignorant are the foolish, and slow in heart. we will give you the short verson and not the technical verson... (smile).
SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v. According to Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. the Greek word here, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, this word is used as a verb, and not a noun. (that will alert one quickly). as a verb one can quickly see, or understand what subject means here in context.
a. put within, b. will. lets look at both and understand this revelation. according to the second definition of subject in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary when as a verb, it means 2. To put under or within the power of. (there is our revelation, “within”, within the power of). lets back this up with our second understanding. G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) as a verb which means 1. to subordinate
2. (reflexively) to obey
[from G5259 and G5021]
KJV: be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.
please notice, the KJV can translate subject, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, as be under obedience, which bring us to our second understanding. lets see this in scripture, Matthew 26:42 " He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. now here is the revelation. the Lord Jesus is God “OWN” arm. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. so being his “OWN” arm, (ab ARM of flesh), it is through, or “within” the agency of the Lord Jesus Christ that his, (GOD), OWN “will” is done, hence the obedience, because he as the "ARM" of Flesh is under orders. this is proven out in the definition of G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso itself. the definition also states from G5259 and G5021, lets see what G5259 ὑπό hupo
(hoop-oh') states,
1.under
2.(with the genitive case) of place (beneath), or with verbs (the agency or means, through)
3.(with the accusative case) of place (whither (underneath) or where (below) or time (when (at)) In the comparative, it retains the same general applications, especially of inferior position or condition, and specially, covertly or moderately.
[a primary preposition]
KJV: among, by, from, in, of, under, with
examine definition #2 above carefully, it said, when used as a verb. there is our conformation, the agency or means,“through”. and “through” is synonyms with “WITHIN”. so when G5259 is use in VERB form, meaning with a verb as in “BE” subject as here in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 then it is understood to be used as the “agency or means, through”. other words Isaiah 63:5 is totally correct and on point when God said, " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. the power is in, or within God “own” arm, which the Lord is, “God’s own arm of flesh as 2 Chronicles 32:8. that’s all that is needed, the Holy Spirit, (the Revelator) and an old English dictionary like the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary. the Holy Spirit will enable us, or give us the ability to root out words and their meaning to understand the old English language used at that time when the bible was written. now let get the clear understanding, verse 28 "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself “be” subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all". but do we have a problem here?, in which way?. did not our Lord Jesus said upon his resurrection that “all” power have been given unto him. and that the Father had reserved unto himself some power.? scripture, Acts 1:7 "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power”. Power here is G1849 ἐξουσία exousia, or authority. when did this happen?. in the book of Revelation chapter 5, after his Carnation on the throne in heaven. he, the Father, (his own Spirit), took the book out of our Lord’s right hand. this is symbolic of the Godly principle of, not letting your left hand know what the right hand is doing. (see Matthew 6:3), which I have already explained. now, what was in the Lord’s right hand, which is in now in the Father hands. the end time revelation. for, Psalms 110:1 states, "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”. the Lord, by the Godly principle, (“of the Lord not knowing his return date), is waiting until his enemies are made his footstool. so by the Father, (his own Spirit), having the book, and the right hand mean power, hence the scripture of Acts 1:7, the Father hath put in his own power, his own right hand the knowledge of our Lord’s return date. but the question begs to be asked, how is our Lord’s enemies being made his footstool?. answer, through knowledge and understanding of the truth. this truth, or gospel is to be witness into all the world, then come the end. supportive scripture, Matthew 24:14 " And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come”. notice our Lord said this gospel, not another, but the truth, “THIS”, gospel, and not “ANOTHER”, G2087, heteros gospel as the apostle Paul also said echoing our Lord and saviour in Galatians 1:6 " I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ”. and we be putting up with this other gospel for a long time, scripture, 2 Corinthians 11:4 " For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him”.
so knowing, Matthew 24:14 " And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come”. knowing that, there will no longer be a need to reserve any power any more when the kingdom is delivered up, right.........right, because God will be all in all. so the term “be subject” is revealing as our definition states, all power will be “within” him, after, or until his enemies is made his footstool, by the preaching of the truth/gospel.
see Ronald, we gave you the short version to point out your lack of understanding the word "Subject" when used with the verb "BE" in front of it which change the whole meaning fo the word. that's why we say you need the Holy Spirit to reveal these things to you. and get an OLD ENGLISH DICTIONARY to help you understand the context old English language of the day, and the scriptures clearly.
that little verb "BE" changed the whole meaning and context of the term "Subject". according to the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English, "SUBJECT" as a Verb, 2. To put under or within the power of. GET A GOOD OLD ENGLISH DICTIONARY.
what do the the "within" means here when the Kingdom is delievered up? scripture, Colossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.". I know you want to know how? well go to God and ask, or ask 101G....
the Lord Jesus upon his resurrection said, all POWER is given unto me in heaven and earth... BINGO. see Ronald the bible said this ... 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Ronald, you didn't rightly divide the word of truth. WHY? because you didn't study with the Holy Ghost to know the truth.....
YIKES!.REMEMBER, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
PS, I'll answer your question below with a scripture, what is "diversified" ..... is in the scripture....
Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
it's meaning is right here in this scripture. .... (smile).
Too long. My eyes glazed over at about the 3rd sentence of the 2nd paragraph.That's another ERROR of the day for you Ronald. the Lord Jesus cedes nothing, but gain all things, you have another false assumption of beliefs, and again you promote a false doctrine through ignorance.
lets get educated.
“The subjection of Christ within God, his own Spirit”
scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:27 &28 "For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all".
oh how ignorant are the foolish, and slow in heart. we will give you the short verson and not the technical verson... (smile).
SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v. According to Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. the Greek word here, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, this word is used as a verb, and not a noun. (that will alert one quickly). as a verb one can quickly see, or understand what subject means here in context.
a. put within, b. will. lets look at both and understand this revelation. according to the second definition of subject in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary when as a verb, it means 2. To put under or within the power of. (there is our revelation, “within”, within the power of). lets back this up with our second understanding. G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) as a verb which means 1. to subordinate
2. (reflexively) to obey
[from G5259 and G5021]
KJV: be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.
please notice, the KJV can translate subject, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, as be under obedience, which bring us to our second understanding. lets see this in scripture, Matthew 26:42 " He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. now here is the revelation. the Lord Jesus is God “OWN” arm. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. so being his “OWN” arm, (ab ARM of flesh), it is through, or “within” the agency of the Lord Jesus Christ that his, (GOD), OWN “will” is done, hence the obedience, because he as the "ARM" of Flesh is under orders. this is proven out in the definition of G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso itself. the definition also states from G5259 and G5021, lets see what G5259 ὑπό hupo
(hoop-oh') states,
1.under
2.(with the genitive case) of place (beneath), or with verbs (the agency or means, through)
3.(with the accusative case) of place (whither (underneath) or where (below) or time (when (at)) In the comparative, it retains the same general applications, especially of inferior position or condition, and specially, covertly or moderately.
[a primary preposition]
KJV: among, by, from, in, of, under, with
examine definition #2 above carefully, it said, when used as a verb. there is our conformation, the agency or means,“through”. and “through” is synonyms with “WITHIN”. so when G5259 is use in VERB form, meaning with a verb as in “BE” subject as here in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 then it is understood to be used as the “agency or means, through”. other words Isaiah 63:5 is totally correct and on point when God said, " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. the power is in, or within God “own” arm, which the Lord is, “God’s own arm of flesh as 2 Chronicles 32:8. that’s all that is needed, the Holy Spirit, (the Revelator) and an old English dictionary like the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary. the Holy Spirit will enable us, or give us the ability to root out words and their meaning to understand the old English language used at that time when the bible was written. now let get the clear understanding, verse 28 "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself “be” subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all". but do we have a problem here?, in which way?. did not our Lord Jesus said upon his resurrection that “all” power have been given unto him. and that the Father had reserved unto himself some power.? scripture, Acts 1:7 "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power”. Power here is G1849 ἐξουσία exousia, or authority. when did this happen?. in the book of Revelation chapter 5, after his Carnation on the throne in heaven. he, the Father, (his own Spirit), took the book out of our Lord’s right hand. this is symbolic of the Godly principle of, not letting your left hand know what the right hand is doing. (see Matthew 6:3), which I have already explained. now, what was in the Lord’s right hand, which is in now in the Father hands. the end time revelation. for, Psalms 110:1 states, "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”. the Lord, by the Godly principle, (“of the Lord not knowing his return date), is waiting until his enemies are made his footstool. so by the Father, (his own Spirit), having the book, and the right hand mean power, hence the scripture of Acts 1:7, the Father hath put in his own power, his own right hand the knowledge of our Lord’s return date. but the question begs to be asked, how is our Lord’s enemies being made his footstool?. answer, through knowledge and understanding of the truth. this truth, or gospel is to be witness into all the world, then come the end. supportive scripture, Matthew 24:14 " And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come”. notice our Lord said this gospel, not another, but the truth, “THIS”, gospel, and not “ANOTHER”, G2087, heteros gospel as the apostle Paul also said echoing our Lord and saviour in Galatians 1:6 " I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ”. and we be putting up with this other gospel for a long time, scripture, 2 Corinthians 11:4 " For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him”.
so knowing, Matthew 24:14 " And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come”. knowing that, there will no longer be a need to reserve any power any more when the kingdom is delivered up, right.........right, because God will be all in all. so the term “be subject” is revealing as our definition states, all power will be “within” him, after, or until his enemies is made his footstool, by the preaching of the truth/gospel.
see Ronald, we gave you the short version to point out your lack of understanding the word "Subject" when used with the verb "BE" in front of it which change the whole meaning fo the word. that's why we say you need the Holy Spirit to reveal these things to you. and get an OLD ENGLISH DICTIONARY to help you understand the context old English language of the day, and the scriptures clearly.
that little verb "BE" changed the whole meaning and context of the term "Subject". according to the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English, "SUBJECT" as a Verb, 2. To put under or within the power of. GET A GOOD OLD ENGLISH DICTIONARY.
what do the the "within" means here when the Kingdom is delievered up? scripture, Colossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.". I know you want to know how? well go to God and ask, or ask 101G....
the Lord Jesus upon his resurrection said, all POWER is given unto me in heaven and earth... BINGO. see Ronald the bible said this ... 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Ronald, you didn't rightly divide the word of truth. WHY? because you didn't study with the Holy Ghost to know the truth.....
REMEMBER, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
PS, I'll answer your question below with a scripture, what is "diversified" ..... is in the scripture....
Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
it's meaning is right here in this scripture. .... (smile).
Maybe if you break it up into shorter paragraphs.
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101G
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GINOLJC, to all.
Just copy it into 2 parts for later examination.....
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
101G
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first thanks for the reply, second, read this scripture and tell me is this a separate person or not... Isaiah 63:5.
will be looking for your answer.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
101G
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first, thanks for the reply, second, yes bible context,
Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."
ok Jaxxi, in context, who is the "I", the "MINE", the "me" here in this verse. .... and who is his/mine own "ARM". for his own ARM, see Isaiah chapter 53,
thanks, looking to hear your reply.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."
ok Jaxxi, in context, who is the "I", the "MINE", the "me" here in this verse. .... and who is his/mine own "ARM". for his own ARM, see Isaiah chapter 53,
thanks, looking to hear your reply.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Ok I get it but what I am saying is two lines later what appears to be the same entity speaking is saying " I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.”
So I do not think it is God speaking here because He would not be speaking of Himself giving Himself gifts
Ronald Nolette
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Well tehn goodbye!
I concede nothing!
I just don't wich to slosh through the muck of 6 posts with several thousand words and hope I get "distinct" as you call it right.
I also reject you rlack of courtesy. I hope you do not treat teh unsaved like you treat the saved.
I asked for a simple thing from ou that you post here and you will not bother to condense it down.
You may have the last post between us i f you wish, but until you are gracious enough to post a simple definition of what you mean by "distinct" it is useless to carry on.
And No I am not playing a game!
Ronald Nolette
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Well if you understood why the prohibition (and by the way He told Mary before the disciples even saw Him) you would know why He told Mary not to touoch HIm and why it was Okay for the disciples to touch HIm.
Ronald Nolette
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Now learn context in light of all the scriptures concerning soteriology!
Some of us in christ will not see physical death- That is called the Rapture!
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