Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ
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If you are looking for truth that Jesus is real, go to scriptures and no further, for scriptures have that truth. Look at the witness of the OT scriptures concerning Him. Look at the witness of the apostles, and many more, spoken of in scriptures.
Tong
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I thought you said you've studied this very well. But even a simple error as this exposes the grave misuse of scriptures. That even that spot on the shroud which you simply insist to be a figure of Mary is misplaced. You might want to exchange the position of the "sacred heart of Jesus" with the "our lady of guadalupe".BVM is standing upright in the shroud.
Psalm 45
9{44:10}The daughters of kings have delighted thee in thy glory. The queen stood on thy right hand, in gilded clothing; surrounded with variety.
Tong
R0697
You do understand the bible does not prove Jesus was God. Its the same as trying to prove Allah is God with a book. You need the Shroud to prove the bible. And Jesus knew that! This shroud is why Jesus is known as the One True God.. we have the tech now to prove him. Dividing his image into two halves proves God made this. + the 3d encoding as well has the photographic negative. To do those 2 halves there was an Event Horizon in his tomb!
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The positive comes out reversed.. I'm not sure what you are talking about, though! I know what a sacred heart looks like. And the BVM image. I've pointed both out..
The negative image is light and darks reversed. The Sacred heart stains are not part of the shroud image. Some nuns tossed water on it to make that, which was sort of like turning water into wine!
Cristo Rei
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LoL... U cheeky woman, your only saying that because you are Italian... hehehe...;););)
I asked the same thing but never got it. She thinks it was created using a "pinhole camera"
I searched but only found an explanation of how it could be done, couldn't find a demonstration but.
I have a theory that some people who are strict sola scripture do not accept any kind of modern revelation.
I could be wrong but its the only explanation i have for the hostility there is towards it.
Who said that the dead Jesus hovered in the tomb between the two sheets pulled tight? Scriptures or men?
Tong
R0698
It was on the dvd.. and i'm not going to explain it to you u can go watch yourself. I posted all the info you need to know.. so do your own research.
The only question I had once the science was done.. was who is he. I've answered it after 2000 years. Its was foretold he comes back around now. Maybe this is how Jesus and Mary come back!
The only question I had once the science was done.. was who is he. I've answered it after 2000 years. Its was foretold he comes back around now. Maybe this is how Jesus and Mary come back!
Oh it does prove the Deity of Jesus Christ. Your not seeing that in the scriptures and your unbelieving of that does not mean that the bible in fact does not.
You sad "You need the Shroud to prove the bible." If you need the shroud to prove the bible, so that now you believe that the bible is true, so be it for you then. At least the shroud did you some good there. But even without the shroud, the Bible is more than sufficient to prove it's truthfulness, at least for one who considers the many prophecies written and made by various chosen men of God, who knew not one another, who lived in different times, concerning Christ, all fulfilled in Christ.
Tong
R0699
I'm confident that Its the Catholic Jesus and Mary, and I'm not going to feel bad I was the guy who did it. Sarcasm.. makes me more blessed in Jesus eyes.
Tong, please man go tell Atheist your bible proves Jesus is God. I'm not that naive.
What I have now will will wreck unbelievers. Now nobody can say its not Jesus.
God knows I did this for him, and nobody needs to know who I am.
This just popped up on my youtube :)
Divine Mercy is getting involved now. Big presentation Sat.
What I have now will will wreck unbelievers. Now nobody can say its not Jesus.
God knows I did this for him, and nobody needs to know who I am.
This just popped up on my youtube :)
Divine Mercy is getting involved now. Big presentation Sat.
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Expectedly so that you don't know what I am talking about, for that is exactly one that you obviously failed to consider, just like your failure to consider the matter of the mixture of myrrh and aloes which the bible says were used on the dead body of Jesus.
Would you like me to point out to you what I meant when I said "That even that spot on the shroud which you simply insist to be a figure of Mary is misplaced. You might want to exchange the position of the "sacred heart of Jesus" with the "our lady of guadalupe"."? Or would you rather not know? And if I told you, is your mind and heart open for repentance regarding this matter on the shroud of Turin?
Tong
R0700
I've already seen his Sacred heart signature from the water stains. God signed it. No matter what you say now I know its really him!
As I said, would you like me to point out to you what I meant when I said "That even that spot on the shroud which you simply insist to be a figure of Mary is misplaced. You might want to exchange the position of the "sacred heart of Jesus" with the "our lady of guadalupe"."? And if I told you, is your mind and heart open for repentance regarding this matter on the shroud of Turin?
Answer those so I know what to do. Because, if you answer to the negative, there is no reason for me to point it out, only for you to ignore and pointing it out then would be for nothing to one whose mind is closed for any repentance. You then go on and find out for yourself. But I do hope you answer positively.
To give you a hint, the failure is very very basic and of common sense. Any average person would be able to find out what your failure was regarding your misuse of Psalm 45:9 and use it to support your false belief regarding the shroud of Turin.
Tong
R0702
You are free to believe what you want about that. But just you believing it does not mean what you believe is the truth.
Go tell me about the issue I brought up, that is, the mixture of myrrh and aloes which you apparently are silent about.
Tong
R0703
3 d before and after.. and you can see the inner chambers of the human heart and its fire. You can see Mary's face on the 3d one. You can put on 3 d glasses and marvel. Mary's immaculate heart is behind her image.
Mary's immaculate heart looks like this.
I love my religion!
Mary's immaculate heart looks like this.
I love my religion!
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Why did I expect that from you?
I love Jesus Christ, my savior, my Lord, and my God!
And so, no response to my posts #388 and #389? Well, I understand. For it refutes your belief concerning the shroud of Turin.
Tong
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