Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[Taken]

Neither you nor I, nor any man, nor any teacher, nor any evangelist,
can or is able to remove the veil from those deceived minds.

Only the Father in heaven is able, when He is pleased to do so.

A thousand times a thousand posts, will not make a dent in the unbelief present,

just as Jesus Himself could not do much in the towns where there is so much unbelief.

I state what I believe...

BOL can count to 9, but he simply can not reply to what an other says...
First he rewrites what another says, in his words, then bashes his own words and then bashes the other person.
Called "willful deception"...but in some cases, there might be a medical term as well... ;)

 

[Paul Christensen]

He sure did - but that doesn't mean that you don't have to repent of your evil.
You STILL do . . .

Having the new law of the Spirit and of life gives us the freedom of choice to follow God's moral law, whereas before we had no choice but to be enslaved in the works of the flesh, and could not follow God's moral law. Before conversion to Christ we hated God's moral law because it was a limiting factor to our desire to go after the works of the flesh. We loved sin because of our sinfulness. But afterward, we were set free to choose to follow the law of love. Therefore now we hate sin and love holiness.

 

[Paul Christensen]

And repeating the fairy tale that Catholics "worship" Mary won't make it true - no matter HOW many times you try to convince yourself . . .

The hundreds of photos on Google show otherwise.

 

[Paul Christensen]

The most comically-ignorant thing about your post above is the idea that there was ANYTHING that was considered to be "extra-Biblical" by the 4th century.

Ummmmm, there WAS no Bible until the 4th century, Einstein.
Time for another History Lesson . . .

- The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified.
- 11 years later, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393).
- 4 years later, at the Council (or Synod) of Carthage (397), it was yet again confirmed. The bishops wrote at the end of their document, "But let Church beyond sea (Rome) be consulted about confirming this canon". There were 44 bishops, including St. Augustine who signed the document.
- 7 years later, in 405, in a letter from Pope Innocent I to Exsuperius, Bishop of Toulouse, he reiterated the canon.
- 14 years after that, at the 2nd Council (Synod) of Carthage (419) the canon was again formally confirmed.

The Canon of Scripture was officially closed at the Council of Trent in the 16th century because of the perversions happening within Protestantism and the random editing and deleting of books from the Canon.

Them's the facts . . .

The historical account of a RCC Bishop under Queen Mary of England, a pregnant woman was being burned at the stake for refusing to believe in transubstantiation, and gave birth to her child, which was rescued from the flames. The new born baby was thrown into the flames. That incident turned me right against the RCC, and no matter what you say by way of abuse and bold type, the screams of that new born baby burning to death because of the actions of a demon possessed Roman Catholic authorities drown out anything you could ever say in defence of that Church. So you might as well give up.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Your statement above in RED is the first correct thing you've said in this entire thread.

Dishonesty IS stating a lie - and every time your fellow anti-Catholic @Paul Christensen makes a FALSE claim about what the Catholic Church teaches - it is a LIE.

When you agree with him - you share in his lies, making YOU just as guilty.
God doesn't give you a "pass" simply because YOU didn't come up with the lie - you shared in it.

See how that works?

I can hear the screams of a new born baby dying in the flames after a Roman Catholic bailiff threw it into the fire which was burning her mother. I can also hear the screams of that Bishop before the throne of God when confronted with the baby, now alive with Christ. Now that evil man knows that he is going to the lake of fire along with his master Satan and his demons.

"The execution was carried out on or around 18 July 1556.[2]:39 All three were burnt on the same fire; they ought to have been strangled beforehand, but the rope broke before they died and they were thrown into the fire alive.[3] John Foxe recorded that Perotine was "great with child" and that "the belly of the woman burst asunder by the vehemence of the flame, the infant, being a fair man-child, fell into the fire". The baby was rescued by a W. House and laid on the grass,[1] taken by the Provost to the Bailiff, Hellier Gosselin who ordered that "it should be carried back again, and cast into the fire".[2] [4]"

It is significant to me that Queen Mary was ravaged with ovarian cancer and in pain before her death, and she died of influenza at the age of 42. God took her early in her life to save more innocent Christians being burned alive. And God made sure that legislation was passed so that no more Roman Catholic monarchs would ever ascend to the English throne again. This is God's judgment on an evil Roman Catholic Queen and after having innocent Christians burned on her orders, she will be herself cast into the lake of fire to burn for the rest of eternity.

 

[Taken]

Having the new law of the Spirit and of life gives us the freedom of choice to follow God's moral law, whereas before we had no choice but to be enslaved in the works of the flesh, and could not follow God's moral law. Before conversion to Christ we hated God's moral law because it was a limiting factor to our desire to go after the works of the flesh. We loved sin because of our sinfulness. But afterward, we were set free to choose to follow the law of love. Therefore now we hate sin and love holiness.

The Converted..."we", yes.

 

[Taken]

The Converted..."we", yes.

You know? BOL claimed he received the Holy Spirit at his infant water sprinkling baptism...
Without his knowledge...

 

[BreadOfLife]

Guess what dude...their Body is Dead...rotting.
Those IN Heaven are Saved souls...
Those IN Heaven are Quickened spirits...
Haven't you Yet learned the difference between a body, soul, spirit of mankind?
Seesh!

Correct - the bodies of those in Heaven are dead and corruptible.

A dead body does NOT make a dead person.
Your body is NOT what makes you a person . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

You are not capable of "deductive reasoning"... you simply blurt out what is in YOUR OWN Carnal Mind...and twist what an other has said...
Look at the TWISTED gobbelygook you are always falsely saying what an other person has said...then Look at what the other person Actually Said....
Your Rewording and speaking for others...is nothing what they said ...
It is your own twisted Carnal minded Corrupt thoughts YOU speak...stop dodging...OWN what YOU say!

Wrong.
I already used deductive reasoning when I deduced your cowardice in refusing to provide evidence - because you don't have any . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Having the new law of the Spirit and of life gives us the freedom of choice to follow God's moral law, whereas before we had no choice but to be enslaved in the works of the flesh, and could not follow God's moral law. Before conversion to Christ we hated God's moral law because it was a limiting factor to our desire to go after the works of the flesh. We loved sin because of our sinfulness. But afterward, we were set free to choose to follow the law of love. Therefore now we hate sin and love holiness.

And the fact remains that when you DO sin - and you DO (James 5:16, 1 John 1:8) - you must repent and ask for forgiveness.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The hundreds of photos on Google show otherwise.

And YOU are a classic case of "judging a book by its cover".
A photograph can't possibly tell you what is in a person's heart.

Only a self-righteous and judgmental fool would insist that they "know" what is in a person's heart by looking at a photograph . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

The historical account of a RCC Bishop under Queen Mary of England, a pregnant woman was being burned at the stake for refusing to believe in transubstantiation, and gave birth to her child, which was rescued from the flames. The new born baby was thrown into the flames. That incident turned me right against the RCC, and no matter what you say by way of abuse and bold type, the screams of that new born baby burning to death because of the actions of a demon possessed Roman Catholic authorities drown out anything you could ever say in defence of that Church. So you might as well give up.

And, as usual, you can't argue the points I made about the history of the Canon of Scripture - so you dodge the subject by throwing a story about a bad bishop from the past at me.

What complete cowardice . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I can hear the screams of a new born baby dying in the flames after a Roman Catholic bailiff threw it into the fire which was burning her mother. I can also hear the screams of that Bishop before the throne of God when confronted with the baby, now alive with Christ. Now that evil man knows that he is going to the lake of fire along with his master Satan and his demons.

"The execution was carried out on or around 18 July 1556.[2]:39 All three were burnt on the same fire; they ought to have been strangled beforehand, but the rope broke before they died and they were thrown into the fire alive.[3] John Foxe recorded that Perotine was "great with child" and that "the belly of the woman burst asunder by the vehemence of the flame, the infant, being a fair man-child, fell into the fire". The baby was rescued by a W. House and laid on the grass,[1] taken by the Provost to the Bailiff, Hellier Gosselin who ordered that "it should be carried back again, and cast into the fire".[2] [4]"

It is significant to me that Queen Mary was ravaged with ovarian cancer and in pain before her death, and she died of influenza at the age of 42. God took her early in her life to save more innocent Christians being burned alive. And God made sure that legislation was passed so that no more Roman Catholic monarchs would ever ascend to the English throne again. This is God's judgment on an evil Roman Catholic Queen and after having innocent Christians burned on her orders, she will be herself cast into the lake of fire to burn for the rest of eternity.

It always strikes me a funny that Queen Mary was given the nickname of "Bloody Mary" for having been responsible for the deaths of a couple of hundred Protestants.
By comparison - her Protestant half-sister, Elizabeth I killed some 40,000 Catholics - but she is remembered as the "Virgin Queen".

Can YOU say, "Revisionism"??

 

[Taken]

Wrong.
I already used deductive reasoning when I deduced your cowardice in refusing to provide evidence - because you don't have any . . .

You say it is cowardness to not provide evidence?

Ok thanks...because you have a LONG List of Claims "without Evidence".

LOL

 

[Taken]

And YOU are a classic case of "judging a book by its cover".
A photograph can't possibly tell you what is in a person's heart.

Only a self-righteous and judgmental fool would insist that they "know" what is in a person's heart by looking at a photograph . . .

No.
No one has claimed to know the thoughts of a person's heart from a photograph!

Try to stay on point...
A photograph reveals what a person is DOING, at a moment in time.

Worship is an OUTWARD VISIBLE ACT one man can SEE, WHAT another person is BOWING his Face to the Ground, in Worship to the THING, the man is BOWING TO/ BEFORE.

IF a man Bows before figures, men, items...
It is Visibly Seen WHAT that man IS Worshipping, (whether or not it is what another SEES first hand or captured on Film).

It is VISIBLY SEEN, "WHAT THING" an individual has "IN Vain"... has "PUT" BETWEEN himself and God.

Again...No one has claimed to know an others thoughts in their heart! So stop trying to change the Point...you don't know either.

However...Any man CAN PLAINLY SEE what an Individual Worships, By the Act of the Individual BOWING DOWN before the "Thing"!

Worship God...
(But it would be to YOUR advantage to First learn What Worship means Before "you reveal yourself as a TEMPTER, "a-TEMPTING"
to Justify men" BOWING Before statues, figures, things and other men!)

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Joseph77]

You say it is cowardness to not provide evidence?

Ok thanks...because you have a LONG List of Claims "without Evidence".

LOL

hey, hold on there a minute.... 'they' with a long list, (fake gospel bringers) have LOTS of evidence....


just because it is fabricated, does that make it not evidence !?

It IS evidence, for their destruction, yes, as used by God, as God says, in Perfect Judgment .....

 

[Joseph77]

No one has claimed to know the thoughts of a person's heart from a photograph!

Good point?
WHO does know a person's heart (motives and purposes) , according to Scripture ?

WHAT rightly judges, what is the way to divide a person's bone and bone marrow , to 'see' the difference, to "rightly divide" .... ?

 

[Joseph77]

FINALLY! ON TV, antenna television, GMA, covid, abc newsmobile (onscreen)

a grey-beard grey-haired spectacled (wearing glasses) religious leader , just before 7:15am 20200410,

said "we may be doing God's Will by NOT GOING TO CHURCH"

ahhhh...... even the wicked are starting to DO what God says to DO, even if they DON'T KNOW WHY ... don't realize it.... cannot comprehend it ...

 

[BreadOfLife]

You say it is cowardness to not provide evidence?

Ok thanks...because you have a LONG List of Claims "without Evidence".

LOL

Wrong.
I ALWAYS provide evidence - Scriptural, Historical and Linguistic.

YOUR claims, on the other hand always come up EMPTY . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

No.
No one has claimed to know the thoughts of a person's heart from a photograph!

Try to stay on point...
A photograph reveals what a person is DOING, at a moment in time.

Worship is an OUTWARD VISIBLE ACT one man can SEE, WHAT another person is BOWING his Face to the Ground, in Worship to the THING, the man is BOWING TO/ BEFORE.

IF a man Bows before figures, men, items...
It is Visibly Seen WHAT that man IS Worshipping, (whether or not it is what another SEES first hand or captured on Film).

It is VISIBLY SEEN, "WHAT THING" an individual has "IN Vain"... has "PUT" BETWEEN himself and God.

Again...No one has claimed to know an others thoughts in their heart! So stop trying to change the Point...you don't know either.

However...Any man CAN PLAINLY SEE what an Individual Worships, By the Act of the Individual BOWING DOWN before the "Thing"!

Worship God...
(But it would be to YOUR advantage to First learn What Worship means Before "you reveal yourself as a TEMPTER, "a-TEMPTING"
to Justify men" BOWING Before statues, figures, things and other men!)

Glory to God,
Taken

WRONG.

I gave the following 2 examples to @Paul Christenson to show that bowing and kneeling is NOT always "worship".
In his response in post #1194 - THIS is what He said:

Yes. Speaking to the dead is the same as praying to a demonic impostor posing as Mary Queen of Heaven.

Is THIS idol worship??

How 'bout this . . .

If YOU agree with him - you're just as wrong as HE is . . .