Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[Paul Christensen]

This is easy, you run with fundamentalism. I am ok with what you believe. Why can’t you be ok with what someone else believes The Catholics are the big boy on the block, an easy target. But there are Protestants out there that believe baptism is merely a public display…the same thing with communion. Some Protestants consider "tongues" of the devil. There is a lot a person can find to condemn or criticize, why be the type of person that goes looking for that. It is enough to say...say, I do not believe what they do......whether it is about Catholics or Protestants. No need to day it is of the devil. Using words like false, idols, evil, or anit-christ,

If I happen to believe that worshiping idols in violation of the 2nd Commandment is putting a precious soul in danger of judgment and hell, then I think I should at least warn them. I can't change what they believe, so when Christ refuses to know them at the judgment because of their idol worship, then their blood is not on my hands, because they say they were never warned, He would say, "Remember that Kiwi fella who warned you in April 2020? So you WERE warned!"

So, is it anti-Christ to warn idol worshipers that they are in danger of hellfire, or is it anti-Christ not to warn them?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Faith that is true, like real gold, is tested as if by fire, and proven.

That is true. And I am not worried :)
God is great.

 

[Joseph77]

That is true. And I am not worried :)
God is great.

As someone posted a while ago, that is the same thing the jihadists say.

 

[Paul Christensen]

I'm actually extremely pro-Christ. He's my Lord, Savior, foundation, center of everything.

That is without doubt! :)

Actually, the twists and turns of this thread resulted in true believers pointing out that the virgin Mary did have other children after Jesus, because the Scripture says clearly that He had brothers and sisters. But the unteachable ones who reacted against it were the ones starting throwing abuse and acid at those who were doing nothing more than stating what the Bible clearly says. Their reactions were personal attacks on the credibility of the members themselves, while the members were just showing them what the Bible says about the siblings of Jesus.

Read all my posts on this thread and tell me where I have thrown personal insults at the members themselves and attacked their personal credibility and integrity, or accused them of being blind, ignorant, and friends of Satan, which they have accused me of.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

As someone posted a while ago, that is the same thing the jihadists say.

Joseph77 I'll be direct:
I passionately disagree with your treatment of Catholics. I do find it to be jihad-like. Now of course, you can do so all you want or believe such actions are correct -- such is your right. But I"m still going to passionately disagree.

If you want to hear about how I love Christ & He's the center of my world, feel free to send me a PM. If you don't care to, that's totally ok,

 

[Joseph77]

Joseph77 I'll be direct:
I passionately disagree with your treatment of Catholics. I do find it to be jihad-like. Now of course, you can do so all you want or believe such actions are correct -- such is your right. But I"m still going to passionately disagree.

If you want to hear about how I love Christ & He's the center of my world, feel free to send me a PM. If you don't care to, that's totally ok,

Being direct, that might be good.

Is there anyone or any time that you believe in line with all Scripture, as Scripture says, they are to be delivered to hasatan /satan/ the devil, for the destruction of the flesh,
so that their spirit might be saved on the day of the Lord?
1 Corinthians 5:5 hand this man over to Satan for the ...

1 Corinthians 5:5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the Day of the Lord.
hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
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(the opposite of being saved, would be they get tossed into the lake of fire where their body and their soul is destroyed)

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Being direct, that might be good.

Is there anyone or any time that you believe in line with all Scripture, as Scripture says, they are to be delivered to hasatan /satan/ the devil, for the destruction of the flesh,
so that their spirit might be saved on the day of the Lord?
1 Corinthians 5:5 hand this man over to Satan for the ...

1 Corinthians 5:5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the Day of the Lord.
hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
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(the opposite of being saved, would be they get tossed into the lake of fire where their body and their soul is destroyed)

I acknowledge your right to believe as you do, just as I do anyone else's.

If that's all you want to say, I think this onveration has ran its course.

 

[Joseph77]

I acknowledge your right to believe as you do, just as I do anyone else's.

If that's all you want to say, I think this onveration has ran its course.

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looks like it....

Why you don't believe God's Word is truth ? (if you care to answer)

I reckon, as already did, I'll start other threads devoted to the truth in Jesus, as God Reveals,

and not permitting any false posts, if that can be accomplished ..... and leave the ... other faiths , to do what they do.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

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Why you don't believe God's Word is truth ? (if you care to answer)

100%.

Important: it is God's Truth, to be tested by Him. Not any man. I'm sure there's disagreements between what you find God's Word's to be saying versus what I or other people do. But at the end of the day (and the start of the day) we each need to follow Christ ourselves and have that individual discipleship.

 

[Joseph77]

100%.

Important: it is God's Truth, to be tested by Him. Not any man. I'm sure there's disagreements between what you find God's Word's to be saying versus what I or other people do. But at the end of the day (and the start of the day) we each need to follow Christ ourselves and have that individual discipleship.

No. In another thread, God Willing, it will be shown clearly that this is very very wrong.

God's Word is clear, pure, holy, and not subject to such as you post. No, not at all.

 

[Grailhunter]

If I happen to believe that worshiping idols in violation of the 2nd Commandment is putting a precious soul in danger of judgment and hell, then I think I should at least warn them. I can't change what they believe, so when Christ refuses to know them at the judgment because of their idol worship, then their blood is not on my hands, because they say they were never warned, He would say, "Remember that Kiwi fella who warned you in April 2020? So you WERE warned!"

So, is it anti-Christ to warn idol worshipers that they are in danger of hellfire, or is it anti-Christ not to warn them?

If I happen to believe that worshiping idols in violation of the 2nd Commandment is putting a precious soul in danger of judgment and hell, then I think I should at least warn them.
First off you, me, and them are not Jews!!!! If you look to the Mosaic Law for your morale code you have been severed from Christ and have fallen from Grace. Over and Over again Paul explained that Christians are not of the Law. I cannot believe you sited that Law to me as if it mean anything to me! You complain that the Catholics added things, you do not even know what is going on in the Bible.

I can't change what they believe, so when Christ refuses to know them at the judgment because of their idol worship, then their blood is not on my hands, because they say they were never warned, He would say, "Remember that Kiwi fella who warned you in April 2020? So you WERE warned!"
You have no idea what you are talking about. Whatever they are doing, not all of it right, but it represents 2000 years of a relationship with Christ and His mother. His mother does his work and in the Bible Christ warns of those that would speak ill of the work of the Holy Spirit....This is His mother....tread lightly.

So, is it anti-Christ to warn idol worshipers that they are in danger of hellfire, or is it anti-Christ not to warn them?
Who are you to determine what God had said to them and in effect you are judging God. Practice your religion and leave them in peace.

Another thing, not all people are dead and buried, do you think Christ was talking to dead people when He was talking to Moses and Elijah?

 

[Paul Christensen]

If I happen to believe that worshiping idols in violation of the 2nd Commandment is putting a precious soul in danger of judgment and hell, then I think I should at least warn them.
First off you, me, and them are not Jews!!!! If you look to the Mosaic Law for your morale code you have been severed from Christ and have fallen from Grace. Over and Over again Paul explained that Christians are not of the Law. I cannot believe you sited that Law to me as if it mean anything to me! You complain that the Catholics added things, you do not even know what is going on in the Bible.

I can't change what they believe, so when Christ refuses to know them at the judgment because of their idol worship, then their blood is not on my hands, because they say they were never warned, He would say, "Remember that Kiwi fella who warned you in April 2020? So you WERE warned!"
You have no idea what you are talking about. Whatever they are doing, not all of it right, but it represents 2000 years of a relationship with Christ and His mother. His mother does his work and in the Bible Christ warns of those that would speak ill of the work of the Holy Spirit....This is His mother....tread lightly.

So, is it anti-Christ to warn idol worshipers that they are in danger of hellfire, or is it anti-Christ not to warn them?
Who are you to determine what God had said to them and in effect you are judging God. Practice your religion and leave them in peace.

Another thing, not all people are dead and buried, do you think Christ was talking to dead people when He was talking to Moses and Elijah?

Your accusative manner at me destroys your case and I see no reason to defend myself. You don't know me from a bar of soap and unless you are clairvoyant you cannot know my attitude toward God and Christ. And if you are clairvoyant, then you are in the deep brown proverbial!

 

[Joseph77]

Your accusative manner at me destroys your case and I see no reason to defend myself. You don't know me from a bar of soap and unless you are clairvoyant you cannot know my attitude toward God and Christ. And if you are clairvoyant, then you are in the deep brown proverbial!

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[Paul Christensen]

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[Grailhunter]

Your accusative manner at me destroys your case and I see no reason to defend myself. You don't know me from a bar of soap and unless you are clairvoyant you cannot know my attitude toward God and Christ. And if you are clairvoyant, then you are in the deep brown proverbial!

At least read the Bible if you are going to be a fundamental.

 

[Joseph77]

First off you, me, and them are not Jews!!!!

It seems you keep repeating this.

If a Jew sins, if a gentile sins, it is still sin.

 

[Paul Christensen]

At least read the Bible if you are going to be a fundamental.

Okay. At least you are not clairvoyant, because you don't know whether I read it or not.

I know that Mary being a perpetual virgin, had no other children, and magically transported to heaven to be the Queen of Heaven are not in the Bible that I read. Perhaps you are reading a different version. The RSV, which is one of the official Catholic versions, doesn't have these things either. I do read in my Bible that worshiping statues of Mary is idolatry and therefore condemned by the 2nd of the Ten Commandments, and no idolator will enter the kingdom of heaven. Is that not in your version of the Bible?

 

[Joseph77]

At least read the Bible if you are going to be a fundamental.

He read the Bible, as seen from his posts.

The Bible is not just for the Jews.

If that were so, the gentiles would STILL be without Christ, and without hope in the world.

 

[rockytopva]

Rat poison is 99.6% great food for rats! But it is the .4% poison that kills them stone dead.

The RCC has many good, sound, Scriptural doctrines, that many in the Church are genuinely saved. I have no doubt about that. I am not anti-Catholic. My wife was brought up and educated Catholic. I went on a site that contained the Hail Mary and other Catholic prayers, and she could recite them from memory! I heard her aunt sing "Ave Maria" beautifully, and she has a cousin who is a Catholic priest.

But, the RCC has certain doctrines that are the equivalent to rat poison for Christian believers - prayers to Mary and the Saints, worshiping the container that contains the wafer, kneeling and worshiping statues of Mary and Christ, the pagan Mass, confessing to a mortal priest instead of directly to God, faith plus works, observing the authority of the pope and following his teaching instead of listening to the indwelling Holy Spirit. Because these doctrines are killers that poison the faith of true believers, then I am in opposition to them, and can have no fellowship with those doctrines.

Rat poison.... I am a child of the protestant Christian conference

1. Lutheran - I believe the Protestant Reformation was a good thing
2. Baptist - I enjoyed quality youth conferences growing up
3. Freewill Baptist - The footwashing service, I hated the thoughts of going, but was glad I did!
4. Methodist - Good people
5. Methodist-Holiness - Good revival
6. Pentecostal Holiness - Our old pastor had many good revivals and the people were good
7. Charismatic - The Word of Faith people I met were all encouraging

The problem...

Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. - Revelation 3:11-12

The problem is that the churches I would attend are in and out of revival. And once the revival ceases they become incredibly arrogant and some of the churches are on the verge of ceasing to exist. Which for me is very annoying.

Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. - 1 Corinthians 5:6-7

So for me the so-called rat poison is human ego... Which just a little can poison any Christian movement.

 

[Joseph77]

Did you ever see any group , of any size, living as they did in the New Testament , following Jesus, not just in the form of religion, but in power to heal and to save as Jesus does ?