Spotlight On The Disasterous RCC "Celibacy" Requirement

[Phoneman777]

Just a few months following the explosions that blew up the WTC towers, the the Boston Globe's renowned Investigative Journalist Unit "Spotlight" blew the lid off the RCC pedophile priest scandal by publishing a long series of articles detailing the decades long systematic cover up of child sexual abuse by Catholic clergy, which abuse was found to be epidemic, global, and known by some (if not all) of the highest officials in the RCC. If you haven't seen the movie "Spotlight", please do so soon.

In 1985, Dominican priest and Secretary-Canonist for the Papal Nuncio, Thomas Doyle, sought to warn RCC leadership of the severity of the problem in the U.S. by co-authoring a report which was widely distributed to U.S. bishops. The report said "pedophile priests were a billion dollar liability" and strongly urged that there was "no hope" for permanent recovery of an offending priest, and that any found guilty of such behavior should be immediately removed from office. Leadership buried the report. Three decades later, Doyle stated in July of last year that the problem "just seems too big to get my head around".

Former Benedictine monk and priest Richard Sipe, a highly experienced and credentialed authority on this issue, said that based on his 25 years of research, which included work as a counselor and psychotherapist to countless child abusing priests at private "Treatment Centers", it is estimated that about 50 percent of Catholic clergy secretly engage in sexual activity with others. The research has led him to conclude that the celibacy requirement creates "a culture of secrecy that TOLERATES and even PROTECTS pedophiles" and that the number of priests who act out sexually with minors is SIX PERCENT - epidemic for this kind of disturbed behavior. Almost 20 years later, we should expect that that number has only risen.

If so many, which are claimed by Thomas Doyle to include clerics, priests, permanent deacons and transient deacons, nonordained religious, lay employees and seminarians, are actively preying sexually on little boys and girls, where is the Protestant outrage? Where is the concern for the welfare and protection of our children? Where are the Protestant leaders who should be denouncing the entire RCC leadership as not even remotely resembling anything Christian? And why are so many by default lifting their voices in defense of such unspeakable behavior that is known and hidden under a garb of Christianity, by calling for unity with such an organization that the Great Protestant Reformers identified from Scripture as the Antichrist? The punishment for these criminals must become so severe that any person in the RCC who finds himself lacking what Paul calls the Spirit fruit of self-control will think of such severity before even considering reaching out in exploitation of the most vulnerable and fragile among us. But the greed of the RCC has led them to callously dismiss the countless victims of predatory abuse by their priests as "collateral damage" due to a policy that prevents priests from producing heirs of whatever property is returned to the church after their celibate and/or child predatory days come to an end. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them". Ephesians 5:11 KJV

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Just a few months following the explosions that blew up the WTC towers, the the Boston Globe's renowned Investigative Journalist Unit "Spotlight" blew the lid off the RCC pedophile priest scandal by publishing a long series of articles detailing the decades long systematic cover up of child sexual abuse by Catholic clergy, which abuse was found to be epidemic, global, and known by some (if not all) of the highest officials in the RCC. If you haven't seen the movie "Spotlight", please do so soon.

In 1985, Dominican priest and Secretary-Canonist for the Papal Nuncio, Thomas Doyle, sought to warn RCC leadership of the severity of the problem in the U.S. by co-authoring a report which was widely distributed to U.S. bishops. The report said "pedophile priests were a billion dollar liability" and strongly urged that there was "no hope" for permanent recovery of an offending priest, and that any found guilty of such behavior should be immediately removed from office. Leadership buried the report. Three decades later, Doyle stated in July of last year that the problem "just seems too big to get my head around".

Former Benedictine monk and priest Richard Sipe, a highly experienced and credentialed authority on this issue, said that based on his 25 years of research, which included work as a counselor and psychotherapist to countless child abusing priests at private "Treatment Centers", it is estimated that about 50 percent of Catholic clergy secretly engage in sexual activity with others. The research has led him to conclude that the celibacy requirement creates "a culture of secrecy that TOLERATES and even PROTECTS pedophiles" and that the number of priests who act out sexually with minors is SIX PERCENT - epidemic for this kind of disturbed behavior. Almost 20 years later, we should expect that that number has only risen.

If so many, which are claimed by Thomas Doyle to include clerics, priests, permanent deacons and transient deacons, nonordained religious, lay employees and seminarians, are actively preying sexually on little boys and girls, where is the Protestant outrage? Where is the concern for the welfare and protection of our children? Where are the Protestant leaders who should be denouncing the entire RCC leadership as not even remotely resembling anything Christian? And why are so many by default lifting their voices in defense of such unspeakable behavior that is known and hidden under a garb of Christianity, by calling for unity with such an organization that the Great Protestant Reformers identified from Scripture as the Antichrist? The punishment for these criminals must become so severe that any person in the RCC who finds himself lacking what Paul calls the Spirit fruit of self-control will think of such severity before even considering reaching out in exploitation of the most vulnerable and fragile among us. But the greed of the RCC has led them to callously dismiss the countless victims of predatory abuse by their priests as "collateral damage" due to a policy that prevents priests having heirs of whatever property is returned to the church at his death. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them". Ephesians 5:11 KJV

Nice article.
Should not go over too well with all the romanists on this forum.
But thanks, it needs to be reported.

 

[bbyrd009]

Watch Spotlight Full Movie Online Free | Putlockers

if you are not fam with putlocker, see that it is possible to watch the movie without joining, downloading, or "allowing" anything, by clicking play, then just close the ad and click play again, ignore "allow," or even click on it and close that window, click play again, takes two or three tries, but i am watching it right now having done this

and pretend that the Est'd Prot church is any better at your peril imo

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Watch Spotlight Full Movie Online Free | Putlockers

if you are not fam with putlocker, see that it is possible to watch the movie without joining, downloading, or "allowing" anything, by clicking play, then just close the ad and click play again, ignore "allow," or even click on it and close that window, click play again, takes two or three tries, but i am watching it right now having done this

and pretend that the Est'd Prot church is any better at your peril imo

if it's not about romanists, then it doesn't matter
they are as different as night and day

 

[bbyrd009]

if it's not about romanists, then it doesn't matter
they are as different as night and day

well, you might think so, but the rain falls on them too i guess

 

[epostle1]

Just a few months following the explosions that blew up the WTC towers, the the Boston Globe's renowned Investigative Journalist Unit "Spotlight" blew the lid off the RCC pedophile priest scandal by publishing a long series of articles detailing the decades long systematic cover up of child sexual abuse by Catholic clergy, which abuse was found to be epidemic, global, and known by some (if not all) of the highest officials in the RCC. If you haven't seen the movie "Spotlight", please do so soon.

In 1985, Dominican priest and Secretary-Canonist for the Papal Nuncio, Thomas Doyle, sought to warn RCC leadership of the severity of the problem in the U.S. by co-authoring a report which was widely distributed to U.S. bishops. The report said "pedophile priests were a billion dollar liability" and strongly urged that there was "no hope" for permanent recovery of an offending priest, and that any found guilty of such behavior should be immediately removed from office. Leadership buried the report. Three decades later, Doyle stated in July of last year that the problem "just seems too big to get my head around".

Former Benedictine monk and priest Richard Sipe, a highly experienced and credentialed authority on this issue, said that based on his 25 years of research, which included work as a counselor and psychotherapist to countless child abusing priests at private "Treatment Centers", it is estimated that about 50 percent of Catholic clergy secretly engage in sexual activity with others. The research has led him to conclude that the celibacy requirement creates "a culture of secrecy that TOLERATES and even PROTECTS pedophiles" and that the number of priests who act out sexually with minors is SIX PERCENT - epidemic for this kind of disturbed behavior. Almost 20 years later, we should expect that that number has only risen.

If so many, which are claimed by Thomas Doyle to include clerics, priests, permanent deacons and transient deacons, nonordained religious, lay employees and seminarians, are actively preying sexually on little boys and girls, where is the Protestant outrage? Where is the concern for the welfare and protection of our children? Where are the Protestant leaders who should be denouncing the entire RCC leadership as not even remotely resembling anything Christian? And why are so many by default lifting their voices in defense of such unspeakable behavior that is known and hidden under a garb of Christianity, by calling for unity with such an organization that the Great Protestant Reformers identified from Scripture as the Antichrist? The punishment for these criminals must become so severe that any person in the RCC who finds himself lacking what Paul calls the Spirit fruit of self-control will think of such severity before even considering reaching out in exploitation of the most vulnerable and fragile among us. But the greed of the RCC has led them to callously dismiss the countless victims of predatory abuse by their priests as "collateral damage" due to a policy that prevents priests from producing heirs of whatever property is returned to the church after celibate and/or child predatory days come to an end. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them". Ephesians 5:11 KJV

1985? Wow, you are so up-to-date. Guess what phoneman. The sex abuse crisis in the Catholic Church ended, it fizzled out some 20 years ago. But you don't care about that, and you don't care that the sex abuse crisis has never stopped in your church; you don't get the same media attention. (Personally, I think you are a pervert that likes to scare children)

When the Boston Globe sent the nation reeling in 2002 with revelations of priestly sexual abuse, and the attendant cover-up, Catholics were outraged by the level of betrayal. This certainly included the Catholic League. The scandal cannot be denied. What is being denied, however, is the existence of another scandal—the relentless effort to keep the abuse crisis alive, and the deliberate refusal to come to grips with its origins. Both scandals deserve our attention.

"...virtually all the stories were about accusations against priests dating back decades, sometimes as long as a half-century ago. Keep in mind that not only were most of the priests old and infirm, many were dead; thus, only one side of the story could be told. Adding to our anger was the fact that no other institution, religious or secular, was being targeted for old allegations.”

“...it seemed as if ‘repressed memories’ surfaced with alacrity, but only among those who claimed they were abused by a priest. That there was no similar explosion of ‘repressed memories’ on the part of those who were molested by ministers, rabbis, teachers, psychologists, athletic coaches, and others, made us wonder what was going on.”

The steeple-chasing lawyers and professional victims’ organizations had a vested economic interest in keeping the scandal alive; the former made hundreds of millions and they, in turn, lavishly greased the latter. But it wasn’t money that motivated the media and Hollywood elites to keep the story alive—it was ideology...
note phonemans' ideology.

Commentary by those associated with “Spotlight,” as well as movie reviewers and pundits, are feeding this impression. But the data show that the conventional wisdom is wrong. The fact of the matter is that the sexual abuse of minors by priests has long ceased to be an institutional problem. All of these parties—Catholics, the American public, the media, and Hollywood—entertain a view that is not supported by the evidence. “Spotlight” will only add to the propaganda...

...So it is indisputable that the Boston Globe “Spotlight” team knew that it was homosexuality, not pedophilia, that drove the scandal. Yet that is not what is being reported today. Indeed, as recently as November 1, 2015, a staff reporter for the Boston Globe said the movie was about “the pedophile priest crisis.” This flies in the face of the evidence.

"..There is no doubt that the Boston Globe “Spotlight” team deserved a Pulitzer Prize for exposing Scandal I. Regrettably, there will be no Pulitzer for exposing Scandal II.
SHINING THE LIGHT ON "SPOTLIGHT"

 

[epostle1]

First of all, the latest report on this subject is found in the 2016 Annual Report on the Implementation of the Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People. It covers the period from July 1, 2015 to June 30, 2016. So why did Schlumpf cite the audit from the year before? Because she relied on BishopAccountability, a notoriously unreliable source, never bothering to independently verify the data.

As I wrote on June 6th, “we know of no other institution in the United States, secular or religious, which has a better record than the Catholic Church today when it comes to the sexual abuse of minors by adult employees.“
CNN OP-ED ON SEXUAL ABUSE IS FLAWED

 

[epostle1]

Protestants ‘Worse’ Than Catholics On Abuse
Amazing words from one of Billy Graham’s grandsons, a Liberty University law professor who investigates sexual abuse among Evangelicals.

There Is More Sexual Abuse In The Protestant Churches Than Catholic

StopBaptistPredators.org
You're a Baptist, aren't you phonyman?

 

[aspen]

if it's not about romanists, then it doesn't matter
they are as different as night and day

Yes.
Only child abuse by Roman Catholics matter, right Rollo? The safety of the children is not your focus at all; just condemnation for the Vatican....

Keep those blinders on while you accuse the Catholic church of wearing blinders

Perhaps you can argue that all the abuse and cover up in hollywood and schools and every other institution on the planet are all perpetuated by the Vatican too. Don’t disappoint me!

 

[epostle1]

Just a few months following the explosions that blew up the WTC towers, the the Boston Globe's renowned Investigative Journalist Unit "Spotlight" blew the lid off the RCC pedophile priest scandal by publishing a long series of articles detailing the decades long systematic cover up of child sexual abuse by Catholic clergy, which abuse was found to be epidemic, global, and known by some (if not all) of the highest officials in the RCC. If you haven't seen the movie "Spotlight", please do so soon.

In 1985, Dominican priest and Secretary-Canonist for the Papal Nuncio, Thomas Doyle, sought to warn RCC leadership of the severity of the problem in the U.S. by co-authoring a report which was widely distributed to U.S. bishops. The report said "pedophile priests were a billion dollar liability" and strongly urged that there was "no hope" for permanent recovery of an offending priest, and that any found guilty of such behavior should be immediately removed from office. Leadership buried the report. Three decades later, Doyle stated in July of last year that the problem "just seems too big to get my head around".

Former Benedictine monk and priest Richard Sipe, a highly experienced and credentialed authority on this issue, said that based on his 25 years of research, which included work as a counselor and psychotherapist to countless child abusing priests at private "Treatment Centers", it is estimated that about 50 percent of Catholic clergy secretly engage in sexual activity with others. The research has led him to conclude that the celibacy requirement creates "a culture of secrecy that TOLERATES and even PROTECTS pedophiles" and that the number of priests who act out sexually with minors is SIX PERCENT - epidemic for this kind of disturbed behavior. Almost 20 years later, we should expect that that number has only risen.

If so many, which are claimed by Thomas Doyle to include clerics, priests, permanent deacons and transient deacons, nonordained religious, lay employees and seminarians, are actively preying sexually on little boys and girls, where is the Protestant outrage? Where is the concern for the welfare and protection of our children? Where are the Protestant leaders who should be denouncing the entire RCC leadership as not even remotely resembling anything Christian? And why are so many by default lifting their voices in defense of such unspeakable behavior that is known and hidden under a garb of Christianity, by calling for unity with such an organization that the Great Protestant Reformers identified from Scripture as the Antichrist? The punishment for these criminals must become so severe that any person in the RCC who finds himself lacking what Paul calls the Spirit fruit of self-control will think of such severity before even considering reaching out in exploitation of the most vulnerable and fragile among us. But the greed of the RCC has led them to callously dismiss the countless victims of predatory abuse by their priests as "collateral damage" due to a policy that prevents priests from producing heirs of whatever property is returned to the church after celibate and/or child predatory days come to an end. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them". Ephesians 5:11 KJV

Your Catholic bashing has no source.
Richard Sipe is an angry ex-priest and a liar.
Richard Sipe EXPOSED : Ex-priest has history of dubious facts : A.W. Richard Sipe
Thomas Doyle is a dissident and a psychotic bigot.
THE WAR AGAINST CARDINAL PELL
So much for your reliable sources.

 

[epostle1]

80% of all sex scandals involve homosexuals, why do you cover for them with a mis-label of pedophilia, phonyman? Sex with teenagers is not pedophilia, it's called homosexuality. Looks like you are covering up for them.

 

[aspen]

80% of all sex scandals involve homosexuals, why do you cover for them with a mis-label of pedophilia, phonyman? Sex with teenagers is not pedophilia, it's called homosexuality. Looks like you are covering up for them.

Sorry, but that is not true

 

[Helen]

well, you might think so, but the rain falls on them too i guess

But Anglican priest marry...it is the RC who are more tempted because they cannot marry.

 

[aspen]

But Anglican priest marry...it is the RC who are more tempted because they cannot marry.

Celebacy is not the reason. Homosexuality is not the reason.

Priests who molest are criminals, period. They would be criminals whether they were married or single or celibate.

This is just my opinion, but many of the American clergy are vietnam draft dodgers - they used the church to hide. Who knows how many clergy, worldwide are hiding from some war or poverty?

 

[Dcopymope]

Celebacy is not the reason. Homosexuality is not the reason.

Priests who molest are criminals, period. They would be criminals whether they were married or single or celibate.

This is just my opinion, but many of the American clergy are vietnam draft dodgers - they used the church to hide. Who knows how many clergy, worldwide are hiding from some war or poverty?

Well, whats wrong with not wanting to fight in someone else's war??

 

[aspen]

Well, whats wrong with not wanting to fight in someone else's war??

Hiding in the church and molesting children?

 

[Dcopymope]

Hiding in the church and molesting children?

Oh that's what you meant........never mind. ;)

 

[epostle1]

But Anglican priest marry...it is the RC who are more tempted because they cannot marry.

There is not a shred of evidence that priests are more tempted because they are celibates. Anglicans can "marry" in same sex unions so using a fallen church as a yard stick makes no sense.
We've had celibates since the 11th century so why do you think all of a sudden there is a problem? Could the sex revolution that began at the same time have anything to do with it?

Child Sexual Abuse in the Anglican Church

 

[epostle1]

Sorry, but that is not true

I've read a lot of statistics and I haven't found one that says otherwise. Sorry, but it is true.

 

[Phoneman777]

1985? Wow, you are so up-to-date. Guess what phoneman. The sex abuse crisis in the Catholic Church ended, it fizzled out some 20 years ago. But you don't care about that, and you don't care that the sex abuse crisis has never stopped in your church; you don't get the same media attention. (Personally, I think you are a pervert that likes to scare children)

When the Boston Globe sent the nation reeling in 2002 with revelations of priestly sexual abuse, and the attendant cover-up, Catholics were outraged by the level of betrayal. This certainly included the Catholic League. The scandal cannot be denied. What is being denied, however, is the existence of another scandal—the relentless effort to keep the abuse crisis alive, and the deliberate refusal to come to grips with its origins. Both scandals deserve our attention.

"...virtually all the stories were about accusations against priests dating back decades, sometimes as long as a half-century ago. Keep in mind that not only were most of the priests old and infirm, many were dead; thus, only one side of the story could be told. Adding to our anger was the fact that no other institution, religious or secular, was being targeted for old allegations.”

“...it seemed as if ‘repressed memories’ surfaced with alacrity, but only among those who claimed they were abused by a priest. That there was no similar explosion of ‘repressed memories’ on the part of those who were molested by ministers, rabbis, teachers, psychologists, athletic coaches, and others, made us wonder what was going on.”

The steeple-chasing lawyers and professional victims’ organizations had a vested economic interest in keeping the scandal alive; the former made hundreds of millions and they, in turn, lavishly greased the latter. But it wasn’t money that motivated the media and Hollywood elites to keep the story alive—it was ideology...
note phonemans' ideology.

Commentary by those associated with “Spotlight,” as well as movie reviewers and pundits, are feeding this impression. But the data show that the conventional wisdom is wrong. The fact of the matter is that the sexual abuse of minors by priests has long ceased to be an institutional problem. All of these parties—Catholics, the American public, the media, and Hollywood—entertain a view that is not supported by the evidence. “Spotlight” will only add to the propaganda...

...So it is indisputable that the Boston Globe “Spotlight” team knew that it was homosexuality, not pedophilia, that drove the scandal. Yet that is not what is being reported today. Indeed, as recently as November 1, 2015, a staff reporter for the Boston Globe said the movie was about “the pedophile priest crisis.” This flies in the face of the evidence.

"..There is no doubt that the Boston Globe “Spotlight” team deserved a Pulitzer Prize for exposing Scandal I. Regrettably, there will be no Pulitzer for exposing Scandal II.
SHINING THE LIGHT ON "SPOTLIGHT"

Thank you for your input, however shamefully flawed it is. The only way anyone can be sure that pedophile RCC priests are no longer abusing children is to castrate every single last one of these disgusting excuses for religionists. Are we to trust the word of the RCC, the same institution that is responsible for enabling the destruction of countless lives of kids who had yet to begin live them? No matter how RCC apologists try to spin it, there is no escaping the truth - that pedophilia in the RCC is rampant, systematic, global, and ENCOURAGED by its leadership, and although Rome may have clamped down somewhat on this abuse in the U.S., it continues globally. The Vatican not only granted asylum to that Papal Pimp Cardinal Law after he fled Boston to escape prosecution, but rewarded him by appointment as Arch-priest over the prestigious Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore for his role in assuring the continued abuse of children, which is arguably a kind of modern day bloodless ritualistic sacrifice to Lucifer - the god of the Papacy. To the many Catholics who have heard the call of their beloved Savior to "come out of Babylon, My people, that you be not partakers of her sins and receive not of her plagues", I say hallelujah.