SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

[Davy]

Brethren in Christ, if you don't know your Old Testament history, then you will likely struggle with this:

1. There is no such thing as Replacement Theology. That is obviously a doctrine of men that Jews and their blind supporters in the Christian seminaries have come up with because they think God's Plan of Salvation can also be because of 'seed' birth, when FAITH on Jesus Christ is REQUIRED, even for flesh-born Israel.


2. What is their 'Replacement Theology', and how does it contradict The Bible as written?:

Definition of Replacement Theology per Got Questions website:

"Replacement theology (also known as supersessionism and fulfillment theology) essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. Adherents of replacement theology believe the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people, and God does not have specific future plans for the nation of Israel." ​

One of the modus operandi by Satan and his workers is their professing a bit of truth along with an added falsehood. The reality of God's Plan of Salvation through Faith on His Son Jesus Christ is that all... must bow to Jesus Christ as LORD. That is what is written in God's Word, particularly in The New Testament Scriptures (Romans 14:10-11; Psalms 72:11; Philippians 2:10; 2 John 7). That requirement of Faith on Jesus Christ supersedes any flesh-birth standing. This is why Apostle Paul said the following about Christ's Church, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:28).


3. Still today, the false Jews teach orthodox Jews that they are God's chosen people above all Gentiles. The unbelieving Jews do not... recognize any such requirement of Faith on Jesus of Nazareth and His death and resurrection. They do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth is The Messiah of The Old Testament prophecies. And while God commanded the children of Israel to remain separate from the nations of Gentiles, and not marry into the families of the Gentiles, today's orthodox unbelieving Jews still attempt to lay claim to doing that separation, but in reality they are one of the most infiltrated groups of people, by the nations of Canaan in the holy land when Israel first entered the land, and then with strangers of the nations that crept in among the children of Israel and became religious Jews...

(See Judges 2 & 3; Joshua 9; 1 Kings 9:19-22; 1 Chronicles 2:55 about the Kenites of the land of Canaan that became the scribes of Israel; Ezra 2 about foreigners returning with the "house of Judah" from the Babylon captivity that had crept into Israel's priesthood; the Nethinims which were the bondservents of Cannanites that David appointed in service to the Levites per Ezra 8; that leaders of Judah had taken wives of the Canaanites and had children from them, Ezra 9. King Herod at the time of Lord Jesus' first coming was appointed king over Israel then, by the Romans. Herod was a puppet king born of Esau, and thus Herod was a convert to the Jew's religion and not actually born of Israel).


4. The Jude 4 Scripture prophesied that merging of the bloodlines of the children of Israel would happen, and was ordained to happen per God's Plan:

Jude 3-4
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
KJV

That is pointing to that creeping in of Christ's enemies as part of a bitter part of God's Salvation Plan. Like Apostle Paul said in Romans 9, "What if God, willing to shew His wrath, and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had afore prepared unto glory", (Rom.9:22-23, KJV).

This is why the group of Israel's scribes and Pharisees at His 1st coming, sought to find a way to have Jesus executed. Not all Pharisees were 'crept in unawares' of Christ's enemies, but those who sought to kill Jesus were, even as Lord Jesus revealed them in John 8 when He said to them that God was not their father. Jesus even said their father was the devil (John 8:38-44). Lord Jesus was not... applying that to all Jews, but just to those who worked to have Him killed. So don't make the mistake thinking that all Jews represent the 'crept in unawares'.


5. The Promise by Faith on Jesus Christ was given first... by God directly to Abraham (Genesis 15; Galatians 3). The Gospel of Jesus Christ was thus preached first... to Abraham (Galatians 3; Romans 4).

That was before... God gave His Law through His servant Moses to the children of Israel, even 430 years before. The purpose of the law was to point... to the coming of Jesus Christ and His fulfillment of The New Covenant through His Blood shed upon His cross by His death and resurrection. God's law never offered His Salvation, it only served as a arrow pointer, as that is actually what the word Torah means, to point, like shooting an arrow towards.

In Galatians 3, Apostle Paul thus says that those of Faith (on Jesus Christ) have become the "children of Abraham", and that those of Faith inherit with... faithful Abraham. That means regardless of one's birth.

Yet Orthodox unbelieving Jews do not believe that. They still think they only... are the special people of God. And thus God has closed the spiritual eyes and ears of the majority of the Jews according to Apostle Paul in Romans 11:7-10, and Romans 11:25-32).

That Galatians 3 Truth which Apostle Paul showed about The Gospel of Jesus Christ having been preached to Abraham first, before the giving of the law, stands as proof to the Jews that it is the fulfillment of The New Covenant through the Blood of Jesus Christ which is the actual Salvation Plan from GOD The Father via His Son, and not... the old covenant which is now dead. It is thus the Promise by Faith on Christ which is GOD's Salvation, and not law keeping or seed-birth.


6. Because of the error by the orthodox unbelieving Jews who still believe they are under the old covenant, God is going to send them "strong delusion" at the end of this world (2 Thess.2). Those unbelieving Jews still reject Jesus of Nazareth as Messiah, The Christ. So God is going to send them a false-Messiah that will have the power to work great signs and miracles to appear as if he were God, The Christ. Those in Christ are not... to take part in bowing to that coming false-Messiah which the unbelieving Jews will bow to. The unbelieving Jews know that The Messiah of The Old Testament prophecy is to come. But they still do not recognize that He had come as Jesus of Nazareth, nor that He was crucified for all who have Faith on the Gospel Promise that Abraham believed.

 

[Davy]

A more thorough Bible study in The Old Testament Books about the Promise by Faith first given to Abraham, and then its transfer by God through Abraham's seed, reveals that the Gospel Promise by Faith was always part of Israel's heritage. Only when Lord Jesus came to die on the cross was it revealed that it was Israel's initial responsibility to take The Gospel of Jesus Christ to all nations, to include the Gentiles. Here is a short outline that follows that historical transfer of The Gospel after Abraham's day. Along with that Gospel of Jesus Christ first preached to Abraham, God also gave Abraham promised blessings that go with that Gospel...


1. Abraham receives The Gospel Promise by Faith from GOD, and Abraham believes God and it is counted to Abraham as righteousness (Genesis 15).

2. God blesses Abraham, that his seed will be as many as the stars of heaven, and promises to Abraham that he and his seed will inherit the land from the river in Egypt (Nile) to the river Euphrates. This is to include the believing Gentiles on that Gospel Promise by Faith on Jesus Christ also (Genesis 15; Galatians 3).

3. God reveals to Abraham that he would be the father of many nations (Genesis 17).

4. God promises to give Abraham a son (Isaac), and He would establish His covenant with him as an everlasting covenant (Genesis 17).

5. Because Abraham obeyed God in willing to sacrifice his son Isaac, God stopped him from doing it, and because Abraham was ready to obey, God gave Abraham more promised blessings. God told Abraham that He would multiply his seed as many as the stars of the sky, and sands of the sea. And that Abraham's seed would possess the gate of his enemies, and all nations would be blessed, i.e., by The Gospel of Jesus Christ (Genesis 22).

6. God then tells Abraham's son Isaac, that He would give him all the Blessings He promised to Abraham (Genesis 25). Thus God's Birthright included The Gospel to Abraham, and His Promised Blessings to Abraham, and to Abraham's seed in Isaac after him (see Genesis 21:12 and Romans 9:7).

7. Isaac's wife Rebekah bears Esau the elder, and Jacob the younger. Because of the struggle in her womb, she prays to God about it, and He tells her two manner of people are in her womb, and the elder (Esau) shall serve the younger (Jacob). (Genesis 25).

8. Isaac's son Esau is a cunning hunter of the field, but Jacob is domestic living in tents. Hunting becomes scarce for Esau, and he sees Jacob has red pottage, and asks Jacob to feed him. Jacob asks Esau to give him his Birthright. So Esau agrees as he says he is about to die (of starvation), so what profit is that Birthright to him, thus treating God's Birthright as something to be traded or sold, profaning it (Genesis 25; also see Hebrews 12:16-17).

9. Isaac becomes old and cannot see well. He asks Esau to go hunt venison, prepare it, and bring it. While Esau is out hunting, Rebekah sets up Jacob to mimic Esau, and go into his father Isaac and receive the Birthright Blessing (Genesis 27).

10. Isaac unknowingly gives Jacob the Birthright Blessing he received from God that was first given through Abraham. Again that Blessing contained:

a. Care of The Gospel of Jesus Christ​

b. A seed as many as the stars of heaven, and the sands of the sea​

c. Possession of the gate of his enemies (i.e., the going and coming of one's enemies)​

11. Esau returns from hunting and goes into his father Isaac for the Birthright Blessing. But Jacob had already received it. Esau cries for Isaac to give him the blessing, but Isaac tells Esau that he would dwell "away from the fatness of the earth" (Genesis 27:39). The KJV, NKJV, ASV, Darby Bible, Douay-Rheims Bible, New Heart English Bible, Noah Webster's Bible (1833), World English Bible, Young's Literal Translation, all... have it rendered that Esau received the same blessing of the fatness of the earth, etc., that Jacob received. But those are mistranslations of the Hebrew, which Jacob had already received the Birthright and Esau's dwelling would be 'far from' the fatness of the land, which would be the desert where Esau later dwelt.
The Bible in Basic English; the ESV, God's Word Translation; Lexham English Bible; The Message: The Bible in Contemporary Language; New Living Translation; and the NIV; all have it as 'away from', or 'far from the fatness of the land' for Esau.

12. Isaac in final calls to Jacob, and transfers God's Birthright Blessings originally given to Abraham officially to Jacob and to his seed (Genesis 28).

13. Jacob on his way to Haran sets up a place to sleep, making stones his pillow. He dreams of angels ascending and descending a ladder between heaven and earth. Jacob then sees The LORD Which then promises to Jacob the lands where Jacob laid, and to his seed (Genesis 28).

14. Jacob then awakes and understands that place represented the gate of Heaven. Jacob then takes the stone made for his pillow and anoints it with oil. Jacob then calls that place Bethel, which means 'House of God'. Jacob calls the stone "God's house" (Genesis 28).

15. Jacob wrestles with the Angel of The LORD, and would not release him until he blessed Jacob. Jacob is told his name would no longer be Jacob, but instead Israel, because as a prince Jacob had power with God and had prevailed, which is the meaning of the name Israel, and is about the 'overcomers' with God (Genesis 32).

16. GOD makes Jacob's new name Israel official, with blessing Jacob with the transfer of God's Birthright that was first given to Abraham, and then to Isaac. God tells Jacob that He would make of Jacob's seed "a company of nations" (Genesis 35). This would relate to the prophecy to Ephraim's seed given in Genesis 48 where Ephraim's seed was promised to become "a multitude of nations". Jacob had twelve sons that would become the twelve tribes of Israel. But the nation of Israel would only be but one... nation, not a company of nations. Thus even as far back as Genesis 35, God was showing how His Birthright Blessing first given Abraham would wind upon Ephraim and his seed in the far future, and it would eventually involve Christ's Church.

17. Jacob's son Reuben was the eldest, so God's Birthright should have been transferred from Jacob to him. But Reuben lay with Jacob's concubine Bilhah, so Reuben lost the Birthright, and the Birthright was given to Joseph (Genesis 35:22; also 1 Chronicles 5:1).

18. God's Birthright then goes to Joseph's two sons born to him in Egypt, Ephraim and Manasseh. The Birthright portion of the king line of the house of David would remain with the tribe of Judah (1 Chronicles 5 and Genesis 49).

19. Jacob (Israel) transfers God's Birthright Blessing to his son Jospeh (Genesis 48).

 

[Davy]

20. Jacob then blesses Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, and says "they shall be mine", and "they shall be called after the name of their brethren in their inheritance," i.e., as Israel. Joseph presents Ephraim the younger on Jacob's left hand side, and Manasseh the elder on Jacob's right hand side, which was the side to receive Jacob's Blessing of God's Birthright. But Jacob crossed his hands and put his right hand of Blessing upon the younger Ephraim's head. Joseph tried to correct his father Jacob's hands, and told him that the elder Manasseh was on the right. But Jacob said he knew that, however, and that Manasseh would also become "great", but his younger brother Ephraim would become greater, as Ephraim's seed would become "a multitude of nations." (Genesis 48).

21. The final transfer of God's Birthright landed upon Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh per 1 Chronicles 5. There is no later transfer written of in God's Word. This means God's Birthright today is still upon the seed of Ephraim, and the king line promise and law is still with the tribe of Judah per Genesis 49.

22. Starting in 1 Kings 11, because king Solomon of the tribe of Judah of the house of David, had allowed his many foreign wives to bring their idols in among the children of Israel, something that God hated, God split the old kingdom of Israel into two separate kingdoms, but waited to do it in Rebhoam's days, Solomon's son and heir.

23. The two tribes of Judah and Benjamin made up the southern "kingdom of Judah" at Jerusalem-Judea, also called the "house of Judah". The northern "kingdom of Israel" in the northern lands with its capital city at Samaria was made up of the northern ten tribes of Israel. This northern kingdom was also known as the "house of Israel". God separated Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim which Solomon had placed as governor over the northern ten tribes, and instead God made Jeroboam "king of Israel" over the northern "kingdom of Israel" (1 Kings 11 & 1 Kings 12).

24. King of Judah, Rehoboam, Solomon's son of the house of David at Jerusalem, sought to bring the northern ten tribes back into his kingdom, but God said no, that this split was of Him (1 Kings 12).

25. Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim, king of Israel over the northern ten tribes, being afraid that many of the northern ten tribes would go to Jerusalem to worship and augment the "kingdom of Judah", instead setup two gold calf idols in the north, one in the city of Bethel, and the other in Dan. And instead of allowing the Levite priests in the north to perform their priestly duties, Jeroboam setup common priests of the people (1 Kings 12).

26. Because of Jeroboam's false worship in the north, the Levites left the north and trekked south and joined with the tribes of Judah and Benjamin at Jerusalem-Judea. Also a small remnant out of the northern ten tribes refused Jeroboam's gold calf idols, and also went south and joined with Judah (1 Kings 12; 2 Chronicles 11).

27. Rehoboam, king of Judah over the southern "kingdom of Judah", and Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim and king of Israel over the northern ten tribe "kingdom of Israel", then had war against each other (1 Kings 14:30).

28. Eventually God had enough of Jeroboam's false calf idol worship in the north among the ten tribes. So God brought the kings of Assyria upon the northern ten tribe "kingdom of Israel" in stages, and they took the ten tribes all captive to Assyria and the lands of the Medes, never to return to the holy lands.

As was the practice of the kings of Assyria when they conquered a land, they would remove the original dwellers of the land, and replace them with foreigners from a different land. This the king of Assyria did with the northern lands where the ten northern tribes dwelt. Foreigners from five provinces of Babylon, each province with their own false idol and false god, were placed in the holy lands where the ten tribes dwelt. These became known as the Samaritans. The Jews of the southern "kingdom of Judah" would have nothing to do with those Samaritans, knowing they were pagan worshipers (2 Kings 17).

Thus Only the "house of Judah" remained in the holy land (2 Kings 17). To this day the northern ten tribes, which made up the majority of the children of Israel, are still scattered in the countries among the Gentiles.

29. Per God's prophecies in the Book of Hosea about what He would do to the northern ten tribe "house of Israel", He said He would scatter them to the wilderness, and give them the fullness of the Baal idol worship they forget Him for. And they would not find their paths back to the holy land, but would forget God's Feast days, new moons, and sabbaths, losing their heritage as part of the children of Israel. They would be scattered among Gentiles, and live as Gentiles. God then said the time would come when He would take the names of Baali they called Him out of their mouths, and He would given them a New Covenant, and become His people again. God revealed that during this period of the northern ten tribes scattering that the "house of Judah" would remain faithful to Him, and remain in the holy lands. Thus the ten tribe "house of Israel" became known as the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel to the Jews and to history (Book of Hosea).

30. After a period of about 120 years after God had scattered the ten northern tribes of Israel to Assyria and the lands of the Medes, the three tribe "house of Judah" at Jerusalem-Judea also fell away from God into idol worship.

31. God then brought Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, upon the "house of Judah" at Jerusalem-Judea, and he destroyed Jerusalem, the wall, and the temple that Solomon built. God ordained this punishment upon the Jews of the southern "kingdom of Judah". Zedekiah, king of Judah, was the last king of the house of David of the tribe of Judah to sit upon a throne in Jerusalem at that time when Nebuchadnezzar took those of the "house of Judah" captive to Babylon. God had told the Jews of that "house of Judah" that they would go captive to Babylon for seventy years, and to not fight against it, because He promised to take care of them while captive to Babylon (see Book of Jeremiah).

32. The prophet Jeremiah and the "king's daughters" of Zedekiah, king of Judah, escaped the Babylon captivity by Nebuchadnezzar, and was taken by bandits to Egypt where Jeremiah and his entourage disappear from Bible history. Yet God has also promised Jeremiah that He had made him a prophet to the nations, for also to build and to plant (Book of Jeremiah).

33. After the Babylon captivity of the "house of Judah", a small remnant of the Jews returned to Jerusalem from Babylon. That is the name (the title of Jew) which the Jewish historian Josephus said those who returned to Jerusalem from the Babylon captivity called themselves. They represented only the southern tribes of Judah, Benjamin, Levi, and a small remnant of the northern ten tribes that refused Jeroboam's calf idols, and also the strangers who dwelt in Judea which went captive to Babylon with them. The majority of the "house of Judah" captive to Babylon remained there, as God had blessed them with building houses and planting vineyards, and their numbers increased. So they got comfortable at Babylon. But God said those would be further scattered through the countries, and they were. (Book of Jeremiah and Book of Ezekiel).

34. In Romans 9:24-26, Apostle Paul quoted from the Book of Hosea to Gentile Roman Christians about the ten tribe "house of Israel", and Paul applied that Hosea prophecy quote of God rejoining the believers on Jesus Christ of the lost ten tribe house of Israel back to Him along with the believing Gentiles.

35. Per the Old Testament prophet Amos in Amos 9:9, God promised He will gather the lost ten tribes of the "house of Israel" like grain sifted through a sieve, and not the least grain will fall to the earth. That will occur at Christ's future coming, and will involve only 'believers' on Jesus Christ, His Zadok, The Just, the believing Gentiles with them.

 

[Davy]

Per Ezekiel 37, God revealed the future event when He will rejoin the two separate nations of Israel back together in final. God told Ezekiel to take two sticks, and write upon one for Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for the "house of Israel", i.e., the ten tribes. And then He told Ezekiel to take another stick and write on "for Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions." God then told him to join both sticks together, and let the people see Ezekiel do it.

God then said...

Ezek 37:21-24
21 And say unto them, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be My people, and I will be their God.

24 And David My servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in My judgments, and observe My statutes, and do them.
KJV

Because many of my brethren fail to study their Old Testament history, they are not aware of that old split of the kingdom of Israel in Solomon's day, and thus do not understand that individual prophecies were given to each separate house, the "house of Judah" or Jews, and the "house of Israel" of the ten lost tribes. This means those Biblically illiterate are also unaware that the title of Jew is not a title used by the northern ten tribes that were scattered out of holy land first by God. Yet the northern ten tribes that God put Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim over as king, are the ones who made up the "kingdom of Israel" or "house of Israel" , the majority of the children of Israel (1 Kings 11 & 1 Kings 12).

In Psalms 108, God would call Ephraim "the strength of Mine head". In Deuteronomy 33:17, God would show His Blessing would fall upon Ephraim and Manasseh as like Joseph who was separated from his brethren...

Deut 33:16-17
16 And for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof, and for the good will of Him That dwelt in the bush: let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren.
17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.
KJV

The Genesis 48 prophecy that the seed of Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" is very telling also, though not many study enough of their Old Testament histories to understand it. That prophecy that Ephraim's seed would become "a multitude of nations" and that his brother Manasseh would also become "great", was first given as a prophecy to Jacob in Genesis 35, that Jacob's seed would become "a company of nations".

Yet the nation of Israel has only ever been but one nation in the holy land, not a "multitude of nations" per the prophecy. One should... eventually figure it out, that since Christ and The Gospel was preached first at Jerusalem and then rejected by the majority of Jews there, that where The Gospel then later was preached and actually took hold over whole nations, that should be easy to figure out who all those "multitude of nations" represent.

 

[Davy]

If you followed the above outline, and looked up in Bible study those references I gave with it, you should begin to realize that God's Birthright first given to Abraham had always involved The Gospel of Jesus Christ, as Lord Jesus was prophesied to come before the foundation of the world (1 Peter 1:19-20).

This means The Gospel of Jesus Christ had always... been a part of Old Testament 'true' Israel's calling by God The Father. Just because the majority of the Jews have rejected Jesus of Nazareth as The Messiah of Old Testament prophecy does not mean it took no effect. A remnant of the Jews at Jerusalem did believe, and served as Christ's Apostles and disciples, and after Christ's death and resurrection began spreading The Gospel Message to the nations, as Lord Jesus commanded them.

That is how Christ's Church and thus Christianity began under The New Covenant represented by Christ's death and resurrection, with Christ born in the flesh via a virgin birth as Immanuel (God with us), having become the one Perfect Sacrifice for sin for all time (Matthew 1:21-23; Hebrews 9 & 10).

In Matthew 15:24 when Lord Jesus said, "... I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel," He was pointing especially to the Lost Ten Tribes of the "house of Israel" that had been scattered out of the holy land back in the days of 2 Kings 17 by the kings of Assyria. The ten northern tribes were not present in the holy land at Lord Jesus' first coming. And after God's split of the old kingdom of Israel starting at 1 Kings 11 & 1 Kings 12, only the northern ten tribe "kingdom of Israel" became known as the "house of Israel".

Thus Lord Jesus was pointing directly to the scattered ten lost tribes outside the holy lands with His "lost sheep" idea. This is confirmed even more so by the historical fact that after The Gospel was rejected by the majority of Jews at Jerusalem, The Gospel would then be received by the scattered lost tribes of Israel that migrated from their captive areas of Assyria and Media, and in stages into the lands of Asia Minor and Europe. Apostle Paul was allowed to preach The Gospel in his own house for two years at Rome (Acts 28:30-31). And Peter also preached The Gospel at Rome. Paul knew brethren in Spain, as he had planned to go to Spain and see brethren there (Romans 15:24-28). Most likely that area of old Spain Paul spoke of visiting was the area of Zaragoza, Spain, which means 'fortress of Zara', named after Zarah, the scarlet thread son of Tamar of Genesis 38. (I've been there at Zaragoza, Spain, seen the old fortress ruins in Zaragoza).

Per Deuteronomy 4 & 28, God had warned the children of Israel that if they fell away from Him into idol worship, that He would scatter them among the Gentiles. That He did with both the "house of Israel" (ten tribes) first, and then about a hundred and twenty years later, with the "house of Judah". Thus the majority of all 12 tribes of Israel were scattered among the Gentiles.

There does exist an archaeological history of the migrations of the ten tribes of Israel from their captive lands in Assyria, links provided by the Assyrian cuneiform tablets that reveal names which the Assyrians called the northern ten tribe Israelites. (See linguist Leroy Waterman's 1930's translation of Royal Correspondence of the Assyrian Empire, where he shows names the Assyrians used for the ten tribe house of Israel is where the name Cimmerian was derived, and became an identifier for the ten tribe house of Israel that migrated from Assyria to the West into Asia Minor and Europe. There is much history per the field of Anthropology about the Cimmerian tribes that migrated into Asia Minor and Europe from the East.)

What does all this mean, and why is it important?

It helps to confirm that God's Promises are true, and that He accomplishes what He says He will do. It is a matter that should make one's Faith stronger. Because God gave The Gospel of Jesus Christ to Abraham first with God's Birthright Blessing, that would transfer to Abraham's son Isaac, and then to Isaac's son Jacob, and then to Jacob's son Joseph, and then to Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, where the Birthright still sits to this day. And The Gospel would follow where those blessings of God's Birthright are involved. So again, what are those Blessings from God contained in His Birthright?

God's Birthright Promises:
1. The Gospel Promise by Faith, first given to Abraham (Genesis 15; Galatians 3).
2. A seed as many as the stars of heaven, and sands of the sea (Genesis 22).
3. Controlling the gates of one's enemies (Genesis 22).
4. The dew of heaven, the fatness of the earth, plenty of corn and wine (Genesis 27).
5. Nations would serve thee, and bow down to thee; a curse upon those who curse thee, and blessed every one that blesses thee (Genesis 27).
6. That Jacob's seed would become "a company of nations" (Genesis 35).
7. That Ephraim's seed would become "a multitude of nations" (Genesis 48).
8. That Manasseh would also be "great" (Genesis 48).
9. That the royal sceptre rule and care of the law would remain with Judah until Christ comes (Genesis 49:10; 1 Chronicles 5).
10. That there would never fail one of the house of David to sit upon his throne unto all generations (2 Samuel 7; Psalms 89:29-37; Genesis 49:10).
11. That those in The Gospel Promise by Faith first given to Abraham would inherit with faithful Abraham, and become the "children of Abraham" (Galatians 3). That Abraham and his seed would inherit all the land from the river in Egypt (Nile) to the river Euphrates (in Iraq) (Genesis 15).

None of the above Birthright Promises above in 'red' exist today in the holy land. And I say that with not attempting to be critical of the nation called Israel in the holy land today.

God removed David's throne from Jerusalem in the days of Jeremiah the prophet, the last king of the house of David there was Zedekiah, king of Judah. That single nation called Israel today in the holy land definitely does not... represent a "company of nations", nor "a multitude of nations". The nation state of Israel today does not... rule the gates of their enemies; they do not control the high seas, nor the most powerful militaries in the world, which is what controlling the gates of one's enemies means. The tribe of Manasseh is not a "great" people or nation located in the holy lands of the nation of Israel as was promised by Jacob in Genesis 48. The nation of Israel does not have the best crop producing lands on earth, nor is it competitive with wine. The majority of the free nations do not bow to the nation state of Israel today. Nor does the nation state called Israel today contain a seed as many as the stars of heaven, and sands of the sea. Nor does the nation state of Israel in the holy land today represent The Gospel of Jesus Christ, as the majority there still reject Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ.

Therefore, to understand just where God's Promised Birthright Blessings are... located today, then one must review those actual above list of God's Promises contained in His Birthright, and discover where and upon whom they can be found today. One simply claiming those Promises no longer exist is no excuse and is a falsehood that contradicts the very Promises of God to His people who believe on Jesus of Nazareth as The Promised Savior, Immanuel, God with us.

 

[Keraz]

God removed David's throne from Jerusalem in the days of Jeremiah the prophet, the last king of the house of David there was Zedekiah, king of Judah

He did, but His Promise to David, of his descendants to forever hold the throne of Israel, still stands. It is fulfilled Spiritually by Jesus and literally by the royal line of the English throne.
Scholars hate to admit it, but the Stone of Scone. is proved to be Jacobs pillow and it confirms the validity of England's King Charles. He will hand over his crown to Jesus, after the glorious Return.
I know how this scenario is dismissed by most, but it is feasible and is part of Gods hidden Plan for the lost House of Israel.

7. That Ephraim's seed would become "a multitude of nations" (Genesis 48).
8. That Manasseh would also be "great" (Genesis 48).

Amazingly; literally fulfilled by the British Empire and the United States of America.

 

[Davy]

He did, but His Promise to David, of his descendants to forever hold the throne of Israel, still stands. It is fulfilled Spiritually by Jesus and literally by the royal line of the English throne.
Scholars hate to admit it, but the Stone of Scone. is proved to be Jacobs pillow and it confirms the validity of England's King Charles. He will hand over his crown to Jesus, after the glorious Return.
I know how this scenario is dismissed by most, but it is feasible and is part of Gods hidden Plan for the lost House of Israel.

Amazingly; literally fulfilled by the British Empire and the United States of America.

Yes, we know that, but the majority do not know that, because they are not taught these things from Old Testament Scripture.

Genesis 49:10, a prophecy specific to the tribe of Judah, and house of David, is that the royal sceptre rule would not depart from Judah, nor a law giver between his feet, until Shiloh (Jesus) comes. And to Him ("Shiloh") would the gathering of the people be. That means David's earthly throne MUST still be somewhere on earth with one of the tribe of Judah of the house of David sitting upon it.

God prophesied in Ezekiel 21 that He would 'overturn' David's throne three times. The first overturn was from the time of Jeremiah the prophet with Zedekiah, king of Judah. That is when it was moved to the Isles. The second overturn was from ancient Ireland to Scotland, involving Pharaoh's daughter of the Irish Annals of the Four Masters chronology of ancient Ireland. The name Scotland was derived from Scota, one of that history from Egypt. One of ancient Ireland's names was Scotia, which historian thieves claim originated from the Latin, but actually comes from the name of one of the "king's daughters" of king Zedekiah which Jeremiah the prophet had guardianship over in Egypt. This is why the title of "Pharoah's daughter" is used by the Irish Annals involving Scota.

Scotland was originally named Alba before that. All the kings of Ireland and Scotland were coronated upon the pillar stone called the Stone of Scone, just like the kings of Israel were, even to the anointing with the oil. And king Edward of England took that pillar stone and had a chair built to put it in directly under the chair seat, where it had been since the 1990's at Westminster Abbey in London. Many believe that is Jacob's pillar stone. Queen Elizabeth II was the last royal anointed with the oil while sitting over that Stone in Westminster Abbey in 1953.

 

[Davy]

For those brethren in Christ not aware of these matters about God having moved His Birthright Blessings to Christ's Church, including the earthly throne of David, know that Satan and his host of workers here on earth definitely do not... want you to know about this matter. It scares Satan's host to think any believer on Jesus Christ knows about this matter. Yet Satan knows about it. And that is one of the main reasons why Satan and his host of workers on earth have tried to blot out David's throne that is still on earth today, and the royal family that still sits upon that earthly throne.

Most preachers are content with just preaching the fabrication that Lord Jesus Christ has already inherited David's throne, that it is in Heaven, but that is not Biblical, because Jesus does not inherit David's throne until His future return... to this earth, just as He in the Matthew 25:31 verse did declare.

Matt 25:31-33
31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory:
32 And before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.
KJV

The year 1296 was when king Edward of England took the Stone of Scone as spoils of war from Scotland, and brought it to Westminster Abbey in London, England. That is when the kings of England were first coronated upon that Stone. That marked the final 'overturn' of David's throne per the Ezekiel 21 prophecy. And then the prophecy states that it shall be no more (i.e., not overturned again), until He comes Who's right it is, meaning Lord Jesus Christ.

Thus today... we are already past the third 'overturn', and now waiting on Lord Jesus Christ to come to claim it. But first, like Lord Jesus revealed in His Olivet discourse, a pseudo-Christ is to appear on earth first, claiming to be The Christ, and that prior to The True Christ's coming afterwards. Will that coming pseudo-Christ try to seize that Stone and be coronated upon it when he comes claiming to be God, with the power to work those great signs and wonders of Matthew 24:23-26 that if it were possible, would even deceive Christ's very elect? That is something that should be in the minds of those in Christ who know about this.

 

[Keraz]

In God We Trust
Unfortunately this motto of the USA forefathers has been largely forgotten today.

Isaiah 9:8-12 The Lord has sent forth His Word against Jacob and it will fall upon Israel. All the people of Ephraim1 and those in Samaria2 will know of it, though in their pride and arrogance they say: The bricks have fallen, but we will rebuild in stone and the sycamores are cut down , but we will grow cedars in their place.
The Lord had roused their enemies3 against them and they have swallowed Israel completely. For all this, His anger has not abated, His hand still threatens.

1/ Ephraim – The leader of the Northern ten tribes; the House of Israel, swallowed and lost to history, now scattered among the nations, but are predominantly the Western peoples.
2/ Samaria – The ancient capital city of the House of Israel in the holy Land.
3/ Assyria – They conquered and exiled Israel in 722-715 BC. Isaiah 10:5-6
So this prophecy has been fulfilled. To say that Isaiah 9:10 was fulfilled to the U.S.A. after 9/11, is pretentious and is false teaching.

Isaiah 9:13-17 Yet the people did not come back to Him who struck them, nor seek guidance from their Maker. So therefore, on one Day,4 the Lord will cut off head and tail, palm frond and reed. The head is the elders and leaders, the tail is the false teachers and prophets. Those who guide this people have led them astray and those who follow their wrong leadings are lost to the truth. That is why the Lord shows no mercy to that nation of godless evildoers, every one of them speaking impurity. So in His anger He will smite them, His hand will chastise them. Jeremiah 8:14-17

4/ The great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and fiery wrath, the Sixth Seal will be just a single day of worldwide disaster.
This prophecy refers to our time, atheism and apostasy are rife, people follow false teachers. Ezekiel 22:26-29, Jeremiah 8:7-9, 2 Timothy 4:3-4

Isaiah 9:18-21 Wicked people will burn in a fire5, a fire as hot as one fed with thorn bushes, they will be engulfed in a pall of smoke. The land will be burnt and devastated6 by the wrath of God Almighty and the people are as fuel for the fire. Isaiah 6:11-12

Now, people are fed that which does not satisfy, their children and kinsmen are not respected or honoured. So the Lord’s anger will fall upon them, His hand will exact punishment. Deuteronomy 7:10, Proverbs 16:4-5, Romans 1:18, Zephaniah 1:14-18

5/ The next prophesied event is a terrible judgement by fire, instigated by the Lord, but He will not be seen at that time. Psalms 18:11 We are informed by Isaiah 30:26 exactly what it is that the Lord will use to carry out this worldwide punishment, it will be a Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude. Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Zeph. 3:8

6/ The holy Land, that is: all of that area given to Abraham, will be the most affected. Ezekiel 20:46-48, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jer. 4:7, Jer. 11:15-16, Jer. 22:6-7, Zephaniah 1:1:18, Hosea 4:3. It will be cleared and cleansed; only a Jewish remnant will survive. Isaiah 29:1-4, but then the Lord promises regeneration for the Land, Ezekiel 36:8, Isaiah 30:23-24, Jeremiah 33:6-9. Faithful Christian Israelites will go and live there in peace and security. Ezekiel 34:11-31, Isaiah 35:1-10, Romans 9:26

Now, in the very near future, the Lord who ‘has restrained Himself so long’ - Isaiah 42:14, will take action against His enemies. We, His servants, must heed Isaiah 30:15…In calm detachment lies your safety, your strength in quiet trust. Psalms 37:3-13, John 14:1

 

[Zao is life]

If you followed the above outline, and looked up in Bible study those references I gave with it, you should begin to realize that God's Birthright first given to Abraham had always involved The Gospel of Jesus Christ, as Lord Jesus was prophesied to come before the foundation of the world (1 Peter 1:19-20).

True. We only need to believe everything that God has ever said or promised, and what God said to Abraham. But many Christians do not.

And this is God's first and second promise to Abraham (and the first and second time God spoke to Abraham):

1. Genesis 12:1-3:
"Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all will be made alive." -- 1 Corinthians 15;22

The apostle Paul said: "Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his descendant. Scripture does not say, "and to the descendants," referring to many, but "and to your descendant," referring to one, who is Christ." (Galatians 3:16).

The above promise in Genesis 12:2-3 was the very first promise that God made to Abraham, and this promise therefore forms the basis for:

(a) Any subsequent promise that God made to Abraham; and

(b) Anything that God later did in the life of Abraham and his descendants.

The second time God made a promise to Abraham, He said,

Genesis 17:3-6
"And Abram fell on his face. And God talked with him, saying, As for Me, behold! My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of a multitude of gôyim (Gentiles/Gentile nations). Neither shall your name any more be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham. For I have made you a father of a multitude of gôyim, and I will make you exceedingly fruitful, greatly so, and I will make gôyim (Gentiles/Gentile nations) of you, and kings shall come out of you." *

* Notice how God repeated the above promise (Genesis 17:3-6) three times.

Hosea 1:6b-11a "For I will no more have mercy on the house of Israel. But I will utterly take them away .."

".. But I will have mercy on the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen."

In circa 722 BC, the Northern kingdom's tribes, who had collectively become known as "Ephraim" (the dominant tribe among them) were judged by God because of their idolatry:

The kingdom was attacked and defeated by the Assyrian king, and the vast majority were exiled from the land (the Northern kingdom).

They became scattered among the nations. Yet this is what Hosea prophesied about them:

Hosea 1:6b-11a:

"Now when she had weaned Loruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son. Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for all of you are not my people, and I will not be your God.

Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, All of you are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, All of you are the sons of the living God.

Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head."

The house of Israel ceased being a nation circa 722 B.C. They are no longer one nation:

"Ephraim shall be broken so that it shall not be a people." -- Isaiah 7:8

By the time the apostle Paul made the following statement, the seed of Ephraim/the house of Israel had become mixed with the seed of the Gentiles:

"Even us, whom he has called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he says also in Hosea,

'I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, All of you are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.' " (Romans 9:22-26).

On his deathbed, Jacob told Joseph:

"I know, my son, I know. He (Manasseh) too will become a nation and he too will become great. In spite of this, his younger brother (Ephraim) will be even greater and his descendants will become [the fullness of the Gentiles] (m'lo goyim) (Genesis 48:17-19) *

* "a multitude of nations." [ Hebrew, m'lo gôy: (the) fulnness (of the) Gentile (nations) ].

So Paul says:

Romans 4:16-17
"Therefore it is of faith so that it might be according to grace; for the promise to be made sure to all the seed, not only to that which is of the Law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all (as it has been written, "I have made you a father of many nations") --before God, whom he believed, who makes the dead live, and calls the things which do not exist as though they do exist."

THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL'S MIGRATION

I don't know about the migration patterns of the house of Israel following 722 BC and I take all of the stuff about the British throne etc with a "maybe it's true, maybe not" grain of salt (though it's fascinating) because the throne belongs, as you say, to Christ - and it really does not matter who sits on the actual throne of Judah in the world today -

King Charles is not even a believer in the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ is not His Lord - he has made it clear that even as "Head of the church of England" and one who is supposed to be THE defender of THE faith (in Christ who is THE way, THE truth and THE life), king Charles has opted for being called "The defender of faith" (faiths, plural).

That the king/monarch of England is THE head of the church of England and THE defender of THE faith is one of the foundation stones of the British monarchy, so how much king Charles' stance actually goes with the constitution of the U.K (which is a constitutional monarchy system of government based upon the foundation stones), I don't know.

BUT king Charles would be lying to God and man if he claimed to be THE defender of THE faith and yet does not even believe. So better for him he does not claim to be.

 

[Davy]

THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL'S MIGRATION

I don't know about the migration patterns of the house of Israel following 722 BC and I take all of the stuff about the British throne etc with a "maybe it's true, maybe not" grain of salt (though it's fascinating) because the throne belongs, as you say, to Christ - and it really does not matter who sits on the actual throne of Judah in the world today -

King Charles is not even a believer in the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ is not His Lord - he has made it clear that even as "Head of the church of England" and one who is supposed to be THE defender of THE faith (in Christ who is THE way, THE truth and THE life), king Charles has opted for being called "The defender of faith" (faiths, plural).

That the king/monarch of England is THE head of the church of England and THE defender of THE faith is one of the foundation stones of the British monarchy, so how much king Charles' stance actually goes with the constitution of the U.K (which is a constitutional monarchy system of government based upon the foundation stones), I don't know.

BUT king Charles would be lying to God and man if he claimed to be THE defender of THE faith and yet does not even believe. So better for him he does not claim to be.

I do take God's Word literally about the continued... existence of the ten tribe "house of Israel", including God's promise to gather them in the future per Amos 9:9 and Ezekiel 37:16-24, which should be plenty enough to prove that God has not forgotten the ten lost tribes, and even knows who and where they are today. I say then, those who doubt God about that have no excuse.

Even Apostle Paul showed he knew where many of the ten tribes were scattered, since he quoted from the Book of Hosea about them to Gentile Roman believers on Jesus Christ (Romans 9:24-26). The Book of Hosea was God speaking mainly to and about the ten tribe "house of Israel", and how they had fallen away and he was getting ready to scatter them among the Gentiles, and they would be 'Lo-ami' (not My people). But what Paul quoted is about their future return, along with the believing Gentiles.

I also think some Jews abuse that word goyim also, since some appear have been wrongly taught that word doesn't apply to Israelites, but to Gentiles only. I blame the Babylonian Talmud and the Jew's religion for that racism. When Jacob said that Ephraim's seed would become a "multitude of nations" in Gen.48, Jacob was simply passing on God's Birthright Blessing to him per Genesis 35 that Jacob's seed would become "a company of nations." Thus the "multitude of nations" of Ephraim point to Israelite nations among Gentiles, and not the Jews in the holy land with their one nation. After all, Jacob said to let his name (Israel) be named upon the two lads of Ephraim and Manasseh. Thus they are counted in inheritance with their brethren Jacob also said. This means there exists 2 Israels today, the "house of Judah" in the holy land nation called Israel, and then Christ's Church as the other Israel from The Gospel and Birthright inheritance to the Ephraim who was the head tribe over all ten tribes. Thus I strongly believe the prophecy directly points to the Western Christian nations where there is archaeological and historical evidence of where The Gospel took the greatest hold, and went to the Gentiles at the same time, forming Christ's Church.

Moreover, the Isaiah prophecies always did include the believing Gentiles as part of restored Israel when Messiah returns.

 

[Keraz]

What if WE are Israelites?
Careful study of Scripture shows that the Lord is a God of order and in His plan for the redemption of His creation, He chose the Israelite peoples. At this stage of history, only He knows exactly who they are. Amos 9:9 The Lord made unconditional promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that their descendants would be “great nations, as many as the sands of the sea, to be His witnesses and be a light to the nations.” Isaiah 43:10

Only the House of Judah [the Jews] are known at present, the other 10 tribes are lost to general knowledge, as God planned it. Deuteronomy 32:26
All twelve tribes will experience the great awakening as foretold by the prophets. Their blindness will pass away in the spiritual light that will come upon them regarding their identity and their responsibilities as the chosen people of God. Ezekiel 37:14, Romans 9:24-26, 1 Peter 2:9-10

Suppose you are an Israelite? What of it? If I am saved, what difference will it make?
The Scriptures speak of far more than the salvation of the individual. Those who accept the free gift of salvation also have the responsibility of spreading the Gospel [good news] of the coming Kingdom of God. This is being done now and will be done on a greater scale by His Christian peoples when they go to live in the Promised Land. Ezekiel 39:27, Revelation 7:1-14

The Bible presents us with a great volume of information, regarding the origins and history of the various races of mankind, the division of peoples into Israelite {Christian] and Gentile [non Christian] nations. The detailed prophesies of what will happen, then His people’s work for the period leading up to the Return of Jesus and His Millennium Kingdom. Isaiah 49:8

The truth about the Lord’s plan for all who qualify to be Israelite’s is a thread which runs through the whole Bible, every type, promise, Covenant, and act of God, points to the final fulfilment of His planned establishment of a people, all faithful Christian believers who will live in His Land, as He originally intended. Isaiah 62:1-5, Amos 9:13-15 His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and the Light to the nations, Isaiah 49:8



Isaiah 51:1-2 Listen to Me, all you who follow after the right, all who seek the Lord: consider the Rock from which you were hewn, the quarry from which you came. Consider Abraham, your father and Sarah who gave you birth, when I called him, he was but one. I blessed him and made him many.
Romans 4:23-24 The words “counted to Abraham as righteousness” apply not only to Abraham, but also to us: our faith, too, is to be counted: our faith in Jesus, raised to life for our justification.

When we go through Scripture and see the many prophecies about the judgement of the nations and the blessings promised to God’s holy people, who are now every faithful Christian believer- from every race, nation and language, we see that most are for the “last days”, that is: the short period leading up to the end of this age and before the commencement of the Millennial Kingdom of Jesus. That is for us, upon whom, as Paul says: the end of the age has come.

It is evident that God wants us to be aware of coming events, He sent prophet after prophet, telling in great detail how His plans will unfold. The signs of our times, confirm that their fulfilment is imminent.
The Lord, in His mercy, has given us warning of imminent world changing and shocking happenings. We should be aware of His plans – be ready to rejoice and praise Him for the redemption and restoration of all His faithful Christian peoples into their heritage of the holy Land. Zechariah 8:7. Ephesians 1:11

 

[Davy]

At this stage of history, only He knows exactly who they are. Amos 9:9

Not really true, since the signers of the Scottish Declaration of Arbroath in 1320 A.D. mentioned their heritage as being from old Israel.

Only the House of Judah [the Jews] are known at present, the other 10 tribes are lost to general knowledge, as God planned it. Deuteronomy 32:26
All twelve tribes will experience the great awakening as foretold by the prophets. Their blindness will pass away in the spiritual light that will come upon them regarding their identity and their responsibilities as the chosen people of God. Ezekiel 37:14, Romans 9:24-26, 1 Peter 2:9-10

Again not really true, since God promised a remnant of the ten tribes would know, and would be kept by God. The following is God speaking to the ten tribe "house of Israel" in the Book of Hosea...

Hos 2:5-23
5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, "I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink."

God addressed that to the ten tribe "house of Israel" that fell into Jeroboam's calf idol worship. God scattered the ten tribes out of the holy land because of it, and they never returned to the holy land as a majority, but are still scattered in the countries to this day.

6 Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.

God says above He would hedge up the paths the ten tribes took out of the holy land captive to the lands of Assyria and the Medes. The ten tribes would not find their path back to the holy land, even as it still is to this day.

7 And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them: then shall she say, "I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now."

When the ten tribes, after chasing after her idols and false gods were not successful, she would think to go back to the holy land, to her first husband. But per the previous verse God had already said she (ten tribes) would not find her paths back to the holy land.

8 For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal.
9 Therefore will I return, and take away My corn in the time thereof, and My wine in the season thereof, and will recover My wool and My flax given to cover her nakedness.
10 And now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of mine hand.

By the above, God was pointing to the trials that the ten tribes would go through while captive to Assyria, being scattered among the Gentiles.

11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

God would then cause the ten tribes to lose their heritage of God's feast days, new moons, and sabbaths, while they were captive to Assyria among the Gentiles. That is how the ten tribes became the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. Yet they were never lost to God, He still knows to this day where they are, and who they are.

My coverage of the above Birthright and Promised Blessings from God that wound upon Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh as "a multitude of nations" under The Gospel of Jesus Christ is Biblical proof of where the majority of the ten lost tribes of Israel would wind up, i.e., in Asia Minor and Europe. The first physical Churches outside of Jerusalem in The Gospel was located in the area of Asia Minor, what is today called the area of Turkey. Those are the Churches which Lord Jesus gave His 7 Messages to through His Apostle John. And Antioch was the first place where believers of The Gospel were called Christian.

12 And I will destroy her vines and her fig trees, whereof she hath said, "These are my rewards that my lovers have given me: and I will make them a forest, and the beasts of the field shall eat them."

Again, the ten tribes in false worship rebellion against God had claimed His blessings to them had actually been given to them by her "lovers", that idea of lovers put for the false gods which the ten tribes were worshiping.

13 And I will visit upon her the days of Baalim, wherein she burned incense to them, and she decked herself with her earrings and her jewels, and she went after her lovers, and forgat Me, saith the LORD.

God there reveals what false idol worship the ten tribe "house of Israel" had fallen into, i.e., Baal worship, the idol worship of old that first began in ancient Babylon.

(Continued...)

 

[Davy]

(Continued...)


Hosea 2:14
Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.

This verse above represents a turning point.

The time would come when God would begin to reverse the confusion of the ten scattered tribes of the "house of Israel", and instead start bringing her back unto Him. That idea of bringing her into that "wilderness" points to God further scattering the ten tribes out of old Assyria and the lands of the Medes, and instead westward into Asia Minor and Europe. They would cross on their way westward around the Black Sea and Caucasus Mountains, and become known as Caucasians.

15 And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.

And there... in those new lands, in that "wilderness", God would give the ten tribe "house of Israel" her vineyards from there, and she would sing there in those new lands. God even uses the idea of His saving the children of Israel out of Egypt with what He did with scattering the ten tribes of the "house of Israel" to those new lands in the west.

16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call Me Ishi; and shalt call Me no more Baali.
17 For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.

In those new lands, the ten tribes of the "house of Israel" would no longer call God by the name of false gods like "Baali". They instead would call Him "Ishi", which means Husband. (Recall 2 Corinthians 11:2).

18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.

Just what... "covenant" do you think that was which God made with those scattered ten tribes of the "house of Israel" in those new lands? That's right, The New Covenant, Jesus Christ. That happened historically in the Christian west. Before The Gospel of Jesus Christ was sent to the Gentiles, the ten tribes being scattered among them, the peoples of Asia Minor and Europe had been worshiping all kinds of Baal style idols. In each separate nation in old Europe they had their own names of their false gods and idols.

But when The Gospel was preached to those same nations in Europe, they began to put away their idols. Great Britain was the first European nation to become a Christian nation representing the majority there as Christians, and that even while the majority in Rome were still following paganism (see the Culdee Church history of Britain).

19 And I will betroth thee unto Me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto Me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.

There it is again, the prophecy of Isaiah 54 that God our Maker is our Husband, which Apostle Paul quoted to the Corinthians in 2 Corinthians 11 about Christ's Church.

20 I will even betroth thee unto Me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.

Who will lie and say that did not happen when The Gospel was preached in Asia Minor and Europe after Christ Jesus had been rejected at Jerusalem? That is when those nations in the West, in Europe became the western Christian nations of history.

21 And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.

The greater manifesting of that above will be when Christ comes to restore the ten tribe "house of Israel" back to the holy lands, with the Jews of the "house of Judah" together as one stick, under Jesus Christ (Ezek.37). Yet those blessings have already... been started, as they are part of God's Birthright first given through Abraham, then to his son Isaac, then to his son Jacob, then to his son Joseph who was separated from his brethren, and then to Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh where God's Birthright still rests among the western Christian nations to this day.

23 And I will sow her unto Me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not My people, "Thou art My people"; and they shall say, "Thou art my God."
KJV

Apostle Paul quoted that above Hosea 2:23 verse to believing Gentile Roman Christian per Romans 9:24-26. Why would Apostle Paul quote that from Hosea to those Gentile Romans, especially since the Hosea prophecies are especially about and to the ten tribe "house of Israel", and was not given to Gentiles?

It should be obvious that Apostle Paul knew where God had scattered the majority of the ten tribe "house of Israel", i.e., to the West, among the Gentiles where Apostle Paul was sent to preach The Gospel. So how can anyone reading the Book of Hosea not understand that God revealed where... He would eventually scatter the ten tribes to, and that He would return them to Him in faithfulness giving them a New Covenant, and they in the western Christian nations, along with believing Gentiles with them, would become Christ's Church!

Of course Jews do not want us Gentiles to understand this Hosea prophecy of how God would eventually use the scattered ten tribes to create the western Christian nations of history, the "multitude of nations" that Ephraim was prophesied to become per Genesis 48. Deceived Jews instead today still want to believe the fallacy that they 'only' represent God's chosen people based on flesh birth, when they too will be 'cut off' IF they do not also accept The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

[Keraz]

Of course Jews do not want us Gentiles to understand this Hosea prophecy of how God would eventually use the scattered ten tribes to create the western Christian nations of history, the "multitude of nations" that Ephraim was prophesied to become per Genesis 48. Deceived Jews instead today still want to believe the fallacy that they 'only' represent God's chosen people based on flesh birth, when they too will be 'cut off' IF they do not also accept The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The House of Judah is already cut off from the Spiritual Tree. Like everyone, it is only by accepting Jesus, that Jew and gentile can be grafted in.
The basic problem of who is Israel, is coloured by the false 'rapture' of the Church to heaven, before any turbulation. For this wrong theory to work, there must be an Israel on earth undergoing the great Trib. This belief then has the Jews mass converted when Jesus Returns.
That this whole scenario is false and impossible, is easily proved by careful study of all the Prophesies.

 

[Zao is life]

I do take God's Word literally about the continued... existence of the ten tribe "house of Israel", including God's promise to gather them in the future per Amos 9:9 and Ezekiel 37:16-24, which should be plenty enough to prove that God has not forgotten the ten lost tribes, and even knows who and where they are today. I say then, those who doubt God about that have no excuse.

Even Apostle Paul showed he knew where many of the ten tribes were scattered, since he quoted from the Book of Hosea about them to Gentile Roman believers on Jesus Christ (Romans 9:24-26). The Book of Hosea was God speaking mainly to and about the ten tribe "house of Israel", and how they had fallen away and he was getting ready to scatter them among the Gentiles, and they would be 'Lo-ami' (not My people). But what Paul quoted is about their future return, along with the believing Gentiles.

I also think some Jews abuse that word goyim also, since some appear have been wrongly taught that word doesn't apply to Israelites, but to Gentiles only. I blame the Babylonian Talmud and the Jew's religion for that racism. When Jacob said that Ephraim's seed would become a "multitude of nations" in Gen.48, Jacob was simply passing on God's Birthright Blessing to him per Genesis 35 that Jacob's seed would become "a company of nations." Thus the "multitude of nations" of Ephraim point to Israelite nations among Gentiles, and not the Jews in the holy land with their one nation. After all, Jacob said to let his name (Israel) be named upon the two lads of Ephraim and Manasseh. Thus they are counted in inheritance with their brethren Jacob also said. This means there exists 2 Israels today, the "house of Judah" in the holy land nation called Israel, and then Christ's Church as the other Israel from The Gospel and Birthright inheritance to the Ephraim who was the head tribe over all ten tribes. Thus I strongly believe the prophecy directly points to the Western Christian nations where there is archaeological and historical evidence of where The Gospel took the greatest hold, and went to the Gentiles at the same time, forming Christ's Church.

Moreover, the Isaiah prophecies always did include the believing Gentiles as part of restored Israel when Messiah returns.​

Yeah but:

Once they were called "not a people" by God (Isaiah 7:8; Hosea 1:9) in circa 722 BC, from then onward they were no longer considered "Israel" by God. IN THE BIBLE the name and title of "the house of Israel" and "the whole house of Israel" from then onward is applied ONLY to the house of Judah - and the house of Judah consisted of Judah, Benjamin, the Levites who served in the Jerusalem temple, and the handful of the other ten tribes who had chosen to live in Judah (because they had rejected the idolatry of the northern kingdom).

In short, ISRAEL continued to exist ONLY in what later became to be called "the Jews". SCRIPTURE applies the name "The house of Israel" and "the whole house of Israel" only to Judah after 722 BC. So Jesus sending the disciples "only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" was NOT being applied by Jesus to people physically or genetically descended from the ten tribes. Jesus understood that. All the Jews knew and understood that.

In the 1st century AD ISRAEL continued to exist ONLY in THE REMNANT OF "THE JEWS" who believed in Jesus.

But whether before or after the time of Christ's resurrection, SINCE 722 BC, whether it was the Samaritans who were identifying themselves as "the house of Israel" or any other group anywhere else, NO group of people living anywhere who were or might have been descended from the ten tribes who called themselves Israel would be called Israel by Jesus - because GOD had cut them off from being a nation before Him.

The genetic seed of the ten tribes who might have had some DNA from the ten tribes became "Not My people" from 722 BC, and forever.

The significance of Hosea 1:10-11 and Ezekiel 37:19 lies firstly in the fact that in Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile and Christ is the promised seed of Abraham (and He is a Jew). The inheritance belongs to Him alone (therefore is also given by God those who are in Him);

and the significance of of Hosea 1:10-11 and Ezekiel 37:19 lies secondly in the fact that after 722 BC the descendants of the ten tribes became mixed with many Gentile nations through their intermarriage with Gentiles in the nations.

And that's CHIEFLY how Abraham became the father of many nations - because the one and only seed of Israel is Christ + all those who are in Him - including Chinese, etc (and He is a Jew),

So IMO holding onto the ten tribes' (genetic) descent from Israel - which involves consideration of their human DNA - i.e the seed of Jacob according to the flesh - is NOT biblical, and besides this, today the majority of Caucasians descended from European and British peoples do not even believe in Christ

- hence they have no part in the fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham regarding (a) being the father of a multitude of Gentile nations; and (b) His later promise that those collectively called "Ephraim" (whom He cut off from being a nation before Him circa 722 BC), instead of being called "not My people" would nevertheless come to be called "the sons of the living God", and be innumerable in number.

And besides even that fact, the descendants of the ten tribes did not only migrate to the West.

IMO if we lose sight of the fact that the promised seed is Christ, and (whether Jew or Gentile) those who are not in Him have no part in His inheritance, then we wind up concentrating on stuff like "where the majority of the ten tribes migrated to" -

so IMO it makes NO difference whether or not the British throne can trace its origin or roots back to the throne of David, because they are NOT Christ, and Christ is NOT of "Ephraim" but of Judah - and the inheritance is in Him, and the promises are all in Him, and the throne of David is His, though He is not yet seated on it (He IS already seated on the throne of God in heaven, and WILL be seated on the throne of David).

So the significance - and the only significance, though it is of great significance - of the fact that Ephraim i.e the ten tribes migrated to other parts of the globe - is the fact that their descendants intermarried with Gentiles and the only reason why God knows where they are and who they are is because He knows who is in Christ, and who is not.

Peter would not EVER have considered or referred to, or addressed anyone who might have been physically or genetically descended from "Ephraim" as "sojourners from the house of Israel who had been scattered in 722 BC" - whether or not THEY regarded themselves as such. They, like the Samaritans, would have been GENTILES in Peter's view, AND in Jesus' view.​

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yeah but:

Once they were called "not a people" by God (Isaiah 7:8; Hosea 1:9) in circa 722 BC, from then onward they were no longer considered "Israel" by God. IN THE BIBLE the name and title of "the house of Israel" and "the whole house of Israel" from then onward is applied ONLY to the house of Judah - and the house of Judah consisted of Judah, Benjamin, the Levites who served in the Jerusalem temple, and the handful of the other ten tribes who had chosen to live in Judah (because they had rejected the idolatry of the northern kingdom).

In short, ISRAEL continued to exist ONLY in what later became to be called "the Jews". SCRIPTURE applies the name "The house of Israel" and "the whole house of Israel" only to Judah after 722 BC. So Jesus sending the disciples "only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" was NOT being applied by Jesus to people physically or genetically descended from the ten tribes. Jesus understood that. All the Jews knew and understood that.

In the 1st century AD ISRAEL continued to exist ONLY in THE REMNANT OF "THE JEWS" who believed in Jesus.

But whether before or after the time of Christ's resurrection, SINCE 722 BC, whether it was the Samaritans who were identifying themselves as "the house of Israel" or any other group anywhere else, NO group of people living anywhere who were or might have been descended from the ten tribes who called themselves Israel would be called Israel by Jesus - because GOD had cut them off from being a nation before Him.

The genetic seed of the ten tribes who might have had some DNA from the ten tribes became "Not My people" from 722 BC, and forever.

The significance of Hosea 1:10-11 and Ezekiel 37:19 lies firstly in the fact that in Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile and Christ is the promised seed of Abraham (and He is a Jew). The inheritance belongs to Him alone (therefore is also given by God those who are in Him);

and the significance of of Hosea 1:10-11 and Ezekiel 37:19 lies secondly in the fact that after 722 BC the descendants of the ten tribes became mixed with many Gentile nations through their intermarriage with Gentiles in the nations.

And that's CHIEFLY how Abraham became the father of many nations - because the one and only seed of Israel is Christ + all those who are in Him - including Chinese, etc (and He is a Jew),

So IMO holding onto the ten tribes' (genetic) descent from Israel - which involves consideration of their human DNA - i.e the seed of Jacob according to the flesh - is NOT biblical, and besides this, today the majority of Caucasians descended from European and British peoples do not even believe in Christ

- hence they have no part in the fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham regarding (a) being the father of a multitude of Gentile nations; and (b) His later promise that those collectively called "Ephraim" (whom He cut off from being a nation before Him circa 722 BC), instead of being called "not My people" would nevertheless come to be called "the sons of the living God", and be innumerable in number.

And besides even that fact, the descendants of the ten tribes did not only migrate to the West.

IMO if we lose sight of the fact that the promised seed is Christ, and (whether Jew or Gentile) those who are not in Him have no part in His inheritance, then we wind up concentrating on stuff like "where the majority of the ten tribes migrated to" -

so IMO it makes NO difference whether or not the British throne can trace its origin or roots back to the throne of David, because they are NOT Christ, and Christ is NOT of "Ephraim" but of Judah - and the inheritance is in Him, and the promises are all in Him, and the throne of David is His, though He is not yet seated on it (He IS already seated on the throne of God in heaven, and WILL be seated on the throne of David).

So the significance - and the only significance, though it is of great significance - of the fact that Ephraim i.e the ten tribes migrated to other parts of the globe - is the fact that their descendants intermarried with Gentiles and the only reason why God knows where they are and who they are is because He knows who is in Christ, and who is not.

Peter would not EVER have considered or referred to, or addressed anyone who might have been physically or genetically descended from "Ephraim" as "sojourners from the house of Israel who had been scattered in 722 BC" - whether or not THEY regarded themselves as such. They, like the Samaritans, would have been GENTILES in Peter's view, AND in Jesus' view.​

Now factor on romans 9, 10, 11.

..and Paul referring to the Jews as his brethren.

Repl Theo is 100% one sided.

 

[bdavidc]

There is no such thing as Replacement Theology.

I agree! Replacement Theology is not biblical. The Bible does not teach that the Church has replaced Israel. Romans 11 clearly refutes this idea. Paul writes, “Has God rejected his people? By no means!” (Romans 11:1), and again in verse 2, “God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew.” The olive tree analogy in Romans 11:17–24 shows that Gentile believers are grafted in among the natural branches, not in place of them. Verse 18 warns, “Do not be arrogant toward the branches,” and verse 25 states, “a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.” Then it says in Romans 11:26, “And in this way all Israel will be saved.” God's covenant promises to Israel are not revoked, as Romans 11:29 says, “For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.” While the Church is the body of Christ made up of all believers, Jew and Gentile (Ephesians 2:14–16), the Bible maintains a distinction between God’s plans for Israel and the Church, and does not teach that one replaces the other.

 

[Zao is life]

Now factor on romans 9, 10, 11.

..and Paul referring to the Jews as his brethren.

Repl Theo is 100% one sided.

Replacement theology is replacing God's elect in Christ with people who are not God's elect in Christ - whether Jews or Gentiles.

Israel continued to exist only in the remnant who believed in Christ.

Gentiles who turn from unbelief to belief in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and in His Son, are grafted into Israel among the remnant.
Jews who turn from unbelief to belief in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and in His Son, are grafted back into Israel among the Jews who believe.

If they were still the elect of God a.k.a Israel they would not need to be grafted back into Israel.

Paul was a Benjamite by birth and all Israel had collectively become to be known as "the Jews" and Paul knew perfectly well that he was a genetic descendant like those who had been broken off and those who had remained, alike.

There's nothing odd about Paul referring to Jewish believers as his brethren or to himself as an Israelite and the Israelites as his brethren - especially since in Romans 9, 10 and 11 Paul is contrasting his brethren who had been broken off from Israel with the remnant who had remained.

Joseph still considered the Israelites his brethren though he had taken a Gentile Egyptian bride, the daughter of the priest of On, and had two Gentile sons born of her in Egypt. But they remained estranged from Joseph until he revealed himself to them because they were so blind that even though they needed his salvation they still did not recognize him until he basically said to them "I am he" (John 8:24).

Do you believe Jesus regards Himself as a Gentile according to the flesh?

Neither did Paul regard himself as a Gentile. Why would he NOT call the Jews his brethren when speaking directly about them and not about Gentiles?

 

[Zao is life]

I agree! Replacement Theology is not biblical. The Bible does not teach that the Church has replaced Israel. Romans 11 clearly refutes this idea. Paul writes, “Has God rejected his people? By no means!” (Romans 11:1), and again in verse 2, “God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew.” The olive tree analogy in Romans 11:17–24 shows that Gentile believers are grafted in among the natural branches, not in place of them. Verse 18 warns, “Do not be arrogant toward the branches,” and verse 25 states, “a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.” Then it says in Romans 11:26, “And in this way all Israel will be saved.” God's covenant promises to Israel are not revoked, as Romans 11:29 says, “For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.” While the Church is the body of Christ made up of all believers, Jew and Gentile (Ephesians 2:14–16), the Bible maintains a distinction between God’s plans for Israel and the Church, and does not teach that one replaces the other.

How could the church have replaced Israel when the church is the temple of God, made of living stones comprised of the remnant of believing Jews + Gentiles who have been grafted into Israel (the nation) among that remnant?

Did the Jewish apostles of Christ conflate the two when to the Gentile believers they said things like,

"So then you are no longer foreigners and noncitizens, but you are fellow citizens (of Israel) with the saints and members of God's household,"

Why do you conflate the Temple (church) with the nation (Israel)?

It's because the apostles did.

It's quite obvious and 100% logical that if the Temple is made up of the citizens because the church / Temple of God = the citizens of the nation (Israel) in the NEW Covenant,

then the church = Israel - the nation which continued to exist through the remnant of JEWS - Israelites - who believed in Jesus.

Your idea of "Replacement Theology" is a logical FALLACY and is itself Replacement Theology because it replaces God's elect in Christ a.k.a Israel with a non-elect who are broken off BY THEIR OWN rejection of Christ.

In the Old Covenant, Israel and God's Temple were two. In the New Covenant, Israel and God's Temple are one and the same thing.

Israel did not "go away". It remained - it remained with the remnant of the Jews, and in the New Covenant it includes Gentile believers. Altogether they - the citizens of Israel - are the Temple. In the New Covenant the Church = Israel. NOT "the church has REPLACED Israel".

THE CHURCH IS NOT A "GENTILE" ISRAEL. Don't let anyone fool you. It's foundation is the Jewish apostles and its cornerstone is the Jewish Messiah.​