If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.

[Marvelloustime]

He who rejects the SON , rejects HE who sent HIM .
A rejection of JESUS THE CHRIST is a REJECTION UNTO GOD ALL MIGHTY HIMSELF .
this generation is in dire deadly trouble and has fallen for a lie that satan has called love . but its not the LOVE OF GOD
and cometh NOT OF GOD but is of the world and darkness .
but this generation sees it as THE LIGHT
but woe unto the many , for if the light that be in them is darkness then GREAT IS THAT DARKNESS .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

You brought up a simple truth that is gonna highly anger this generation . But TRUTH IT IS .
What did JESUS tell even the jews who did not believe ON HIM .
When they even cried and hollered we have ONE FATHER , ITS GOD .
He said ye are of your father , the devil . take heed one and all that father was not GOD but JESUS said the devil .
The muslims also do not worship the same GOD we do .
They follow another jesus and a false muhammed who has spouted the lie of anti christ .
The thing about abraham was , WHEN GOD SPOKE , abraham BELEIVED GOD .
YET WHEN JESUS speaks many do not hear him or beleive HIM . That sounds deadly .
CAUSE the words JESUS spoke CAME OF GOD .
This generation is in love with a lie now my friend . and its made the road to GOD very broad indeed .
And its only getting broader by the day and by the hour . But that road , WONT NEVER LEAD TO GOD
but only to PERIDTION .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

The question is what is the difference between GOD and HIS WORD .
In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with GOD
and GOD was the Word . Had you LOVED GOD you would have LOVED ME for i came forth of HIM .

@amigo de christo

 

[Chrysostomos]

I am reflecting on Martin Luther's book "On the Jews and Their Lies." How accurately and precisely he pinpointed the essence of the Jewish Messiah = Antichrist. Although the Antichrist will possess political power over the world for 42 months, according to (Revelation 11:2 and 13:5), he will still be nothing more than a man possessed by Satan. And the Jews will remain as mortal as they are now. And all of them—the Jews and their Messiah = Antichrist—will die just like cows or dogs.

And then the Last Judgment awaits everyone. And God will separate the chaff from the wheat and the goats from the sheep.

Besides these key points, I am also pondering the conditions under which the Antichrist's rule will take place. Even before his arrival, the world will face great calamities: world war, earthquakes, famine, and epidemics. And that will only be the beginning of the troubles.

Then, amidst this chaos, the Antichrist will come and bring peace and order to all survivors in the form of an electronic concentration camp. And it must be admitted that their lives will be such that no one would envy them. Judging by the Book of Revelation, the conditions will be far from cheerful, and the Jews will have little to rejoice about—if they rejoice at all, it will be short-lived. Of course, the Jews might rejoice that the Antichrist will kill almost all Christians, except for those who flee to the mountains to escape the persecutions. But even there, they will be hunted and killed.

The social environment under the Antichrist's rule will be depressing. Essentially, it will be a massive electronic concentration camp, analogous to the Gulag. The repressions will be accompanied by unprecedented cruelty and severity. In such a Gulag, the Jews will serve as the administration. As guards, they might hire some Shabbos goyim. But even living in the Gulag as part of the administration will be a dubious pleasure.

Moreover, (Revelation 16:10) states, "The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness, and they gnawed their tongues in agony." In general, things will not be as rosy as the rabbis now claim, saying that during the rule of the Jewish Messiah, the Jews will live happily and richly, while the goyim will be glad to serve their Jewish masters.

Additionally, we must consider the environmental situation on planet Earth during the days of the Antichrist's rule. The Book of Revelation says that the water in the seas will turn to blood, and all living creatures in the seas will die. Rivers will become poisoned. A third of the world's fertile land will be destroyed. There will also be an invasion of some kind of locust that will torment people for five months, so much so that "in those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will flee from them." After that, the sixth angel will sound his trumpet, and from some three plagues, a third of the Earth's population will die.

In short, a time will come when the living will envy the dead. That is, those who live under the Antichrist's rule will envy those who lived before his arrival. So it goes: now the Jews are waiting for their Messiah, but when he comes, everyone will start envying those who lived before his arrival.

 

[Grailhunter]

For over 100 years, Dispensationalism has led Christians to believe that Christ did not fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament, thus making the modern state of Israel a required piece in God’s unfinished plan — a doctrine completely at odds with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

They’ve been led to believe that Christians and Jews worship the same God — as if the only difference is that Jews just don’t accept Jesus as the Messiah. But that’s not a small difference — that’s the defining line between truth and total rejection of Christ. The god of modern Judaism explicitly rejects Christ, making it impossible to claim we worship the same God.

The Talmud says that Christ was a “sorcerer who is now burning in hell in a cauldron of boiling human excrement” (Gittin 57a). So they, Talmudic Jews, are openly anti-Christ. Their god doesn’t like Jesus Christ — in fact, he loathes him and everything he represents. These aren’t minor theological disagreements — they’re explicit rejections and blasphemies against Christ. Judaism doesn’t just deny Jesus as the Messiah; it curses him and teaches that his eternal punishment is absolutely justified.

Catching on yet?

They worship the antithesis of Jesus Christ — which would be THE ANTICHRIST, whose father is SATAN.

If we both follow the religion of Abraham, and you think that my God is “burning in hell,” then who is your god? It sure as damnation itself isn’t the Christian God. No — that would be impossible. It’s the opposite of the Christian God. And he who is the opposite of the Christian God, is the devil.

Jesus called the Jews “the children of the devil” (John 8:44) and to a Christian — Talmudic Jews are; all of them. To any true follower of Jesus Christ, Talmudic Judaism isn’t just a different religion — it’s the throne of Satan on Earth. It is the spiritual infrastructure of the Antichrist. It’s not about some wannabe satanists trying to put up a Baphomet statue at an elementary school; — it’s Judaism itself that is the global church of Satan. They are the real deal.

Let’s stop pretending. If you reject Jesus Christ and wait for another messiah, you're not neutral — you're preparing the world for the Antichrist, the son of Satan. And if you're a Christian who defends that (and the Rothschilds' manufactured state of Israel), you're not courageous or compassionate — you're spiritually sedated and complicit in betrayal. Whatever you claim, you are not a follower of the Gospel of Jesus Christ — you're in open rebellion against him. Jesus called his followers "the true Israel". It's not a land. It's not a place. It’s the Body of Christ. According to Scripture, the true "Israel" is made up of those who follow Jesus Christ.

According to Jesus, physical descent from Abraham does not guarantee being a “child of God”. Those who reject Jesus are rejecting the very God Abraham believed in, which means they are not spiritually Abraham’s children—instead, they are following the devil's deception.


This applies to all people, not just the Jewish leaders Jesus was speaking to. Faith in Jesus, not ancestry, is what makes someone a "child of God".


According to Jesus' words in John 8:39-44, anyone who claims to be a descendant of Abraham but rejects him (Jesus Christ) is not truly a child of Abraham in a spiritual sense—instead, they are following the devil’s deception.


Jesus’ Main Points in John 8:39-44

1. Being a physical descendant of Abraham is not enough
   • “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do what Abraham did.” (John 8:39)
   • True children of Abraham follow Abraham’s faith—and Abraham believed in God’s promises (Genesis 15:6).
   • Since Jesus is the fulfillment of those promises, rejecting Jesus means not following Abraham’s faith.
2. Rejecting Jesus means rejecting God
   • “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God.” (John 8:42)
   • Jesus makes it clear: If someone truly knows God, they will accept him.
   • Those who reject Jesus are not of God and are of the devil, regardless of their lineage.

So, according to Jesus:

• Jews (or any people, for that matter) are not automatically “God's chosen people” just because of their physical lineage. Instead, faith in Jesus Christ is what defines who is truly "God's chosen people" in His eyes.
• In Jesus’ eyes, being part of God's chosen people is not about being born into a certain ethnic group or family (such as being a descendant of Abraham) but about accepting Jesus as the Messiah.

In the context of Jesus' teachings, those who reject Him, regardless of being descendants of Abraham (including the Jewish people), are not part of God's true, spiritual family. Faith in Jesus Christ is what makes someone part of "God’s chosen people", according to Jesus Himself.

Anti Semitism......count me out.

 

[Chrysostomos]

If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah.

Israel, as a state, was destroyed in the 1st century AD. Let’s consider the "spirit of the age," the time in which Israel reemerged. Israel appeared after nearly 2,000 years in an era of godlessness, in a century marked by the decline of Christianity, morality, and ethics. All monarchies were either destroyed or stripped of real power. It was the age of the rise of godless communism, Marxism, and Leninism. In the USSR, they first killed Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family. Then they carried out the most massive genocide of Christians in human history. After that, the only state-level resistance that could have thwarted the satanists’ plans was eradicated. And then Stalin helped the Jews create Israel. Yes! It was the very murderers of Tsar Nicholas II and his family, the organizers of the most extensive, ruthless, and bloodthirsty genocide of Christians, who aided in establishing Israel at a moment when there was no force left in the world capable of stopping them.

So why would Israel disappear now, when Jews have effectively subjugated the entire EU and the USA has become their vassal? Satanism is growing stronger worldwide, while Christianity is losing its influence on society. There are neither political nor moral-ethical forces in the world capable of halting the rise of satanism and the strengthening of Israel.

For 2,000 years, humanity was under the protection of Jesus Christ. But in the 20th century, Christian nations began to massively reject Jesus Christ. The Lord God was displeased that the Old Testament Jews rejected theocracy and demanded a king. Then God lamented that the Jews appointed kings over themselves without His anointing and set princes over themselves without His knowledge (Hosea 8:4). And now, people have invented presidential elections for themselves, indulging in the devilish illusion that the source of power is supposedly the people—a demon-possessed mob—rather than the Lord God. But this demon-possessed mob can choose no one other than the Antichrist. Soon the "Third Temple" will be built, and soon the Antichrist will reign. Yet the Antichrist’s rule will last only three and a half years. Then will come the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the Last Judgment. All biblical prophecies will be fulfilled.

 

[Behold]

Can a Jew who is currently under the Talmidic Rabbis come to Christ and be Saved?

"Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS"

"ALL, who call on the name of Jesus (FAITH) shall be saved"..

So, that is The Cross of Christ, being offered to every human being...........Jew or Gentile

 

[amigo de christo]

"Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS"

"ALL, who call on the name of Jesus (FAITH) shall be saved"..

So, that is The Cross of Christ, being offered to every human being...........Jew or Gentile

On that note its time for all to point to CHRIST JESUS as the only NAME whereby one may be saved
reminding all of the dire need to BELEIVE on HIM . To the trenches one and all .

 

[Behold]

In the context of Jesus' teachings, those who reject Him, regardless of being descendants of Abraham (including the Jewish people), are not part of God's true, spiritual family.

Anyone who dies as a Christ rejector is "not a part of God's Family".........Jew or Gentile.

 

[Taken]

If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.​

Ignorance and I Disagree.

Rom 11:
[25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

ISRAELS Blindness IS TEMPORARY, and WAS established BY God, to fulfill His Purpose, regarding Gentiles.

God has revealed His Order, Way, Intent To and When God Lifts ISRAELS Blindness.

Rom. 9:
[33a]: As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence:

Rom 11:
[26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Gentile Christ Jesus Believers and Israel Believe in and worship the Same Heavenly Creator and Maker Almighty God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[David in NJ]

The Dispensationalist brainwashing that gripped the U.S. beginning in the 1950s wasn’t just bad theology—it was spiritual sabotage. A deliberate, well-funded distortion of the Gospel that helped drive tens of millions away from Christianity. It replaced the teachings of Christ with fear-based loyalty tests to a modern nation-state, twisting Scripture into a political weapon.

What began as subtle shifts in interpretation became a full-blown cult of deception—where televangelists like Jerry Falwell raged from TV screens night after night, proclaiming that anyone who didn’t blindly support Israel was “cursed by God.” No nuance. No Gospel. Just threats. Just fear.

Falwell, Hagee, Lindsey, Robertson—they didn’t just mislead. They built platforms on lies, with the Bible in one hand and a Zionist agenda in the other. They weren’t confused. They were complicit. And it’s almost impossible to believe they didn’t know exactly what they were doing.

Because the truth was always there. Jesus said, “It is finished,” not “It will be continued after a geopolitical reset.” The Cross ended the old covenant—it didn’t hit pause. And yet these men preached another gospel entirely. One that made Christ's sacrifice feel… incomplete. Contingent. Nationalized.

The irony? The very tool used to usher in this counterfeit theology—the Scofield Reference Bible—was mass-printed and distributed in the early 20th century, bankrolled by the Rockefellers, whose fingerprints are all over modern propaganda. It wasn’t an accident. It was infiltration.

And the damage? Generation after generation now mocks Christianity. A nation spiritually lost in confusion. And millions who associate the message of Jesus not with grace and truth—but with war, money, and curses.


This wasn’t just bad doctrine. It was a deception with eternal consequences.

the Baptist religion is dispensationalism at it's worse

 

[David in NJ]

"Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS"

"ALL, who call on the name of Jesus (FAITH) shall be saved"..

So, that is The Cross of Christ, being offered to every human being...........Jew or Gentile

Does the new Member @The Gospel of Christ believe this???

 

[David in NJ]

Since Christ is God’s representative, “coming to Christ” leads to “coming to God”.

As Jesus said…”no one can come to the Father except through me”…..and he also said…”no one can come to me (Jesus) unless it is granted by the Father”……so what if it’s not granted…what then?

Why does God require us to come to Christ?

 

[Behold]

Does the new Member @The Gospel of Christ believe this???

I have no idea.

We'll have to wait and see if they post more Threads and they can only talk about this same topic, over and over.......as then we know we are dealing with someone who has "obsessed" on something, and its driving them in a way that is not mentally healthy.

You find this "type" who only posts about "Calvinism" or "Why i hate the Trinity"..... Or "Why i hate OSAS"/. or "God told me to tell the Church".... ect.

 

[amigo de christo]

You're quoting some important Scriptures, and I absolutely agree that God's sovereignty is at play in Israel's spiritual blindness. But we must be clear about what Scripture says about rejection of Christ—not just in a future prophetic sense, but right now, in terms of spiritual reality.

1. Jesus makes it crystal clear: rejecting Him is rejecting the Father.​

So when modern Judaism explicitly rejects Jesus Christ, it doesn’t result in a partial or temporary disconnection—it’s total. There is no shared worship of the same God if the Son is denied.

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2. Jesus told the religious leaders plainly: their "god" was not His Father.​

They claimed to worship Yahweh. Jesus told them point-blank: you don’t know Him.


Modern Judaism—built upon the rejection of Christ and post-Temple Rabbinic tradition—is no different. There is no neutral middle ground.

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3. Yes, there is a prophetic blindness on Israel—but it doesn't mean they currently worship the true God.​

Romans 11:25 says blindness has happened “in part” until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. But even Paul, in the same chapter, warns severely:


That’s not a side note—it’s spiritual severance. And the olive tree metaphor shows that only through faith in Christ can anyone—Jew or Gentile—be grafted in.

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4. The idea that Jews "just don't accept Jesus yet" is a modern evangelical myth.​

It reduces the absolute centrality of Christ to a doctrinal footnote. But Scripture doesn’t leave that door open:


If Christ is the only way, then anyone—Jew or Gentile—who rejects Him is not worshiping the Father at all. Period.

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We can acknowledge a future moment of prophetic redemption for a remnant of Israel (Romans 11:26), but that does not erase the current reality: modern Judaism has fashioned a god that explicitly rejects the Son—and therefore cannot be the true God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

So no, we don’t worship the same God. And any theology that claims otherwise stands against the very words of Jesus Christ Himself.

What did JESUS tell the jews who did not believe . they worship GOD IN VAIN
worshipping him through the doctrines of men , precepts of men .
So lets all come to one simple understanding . before i type it , MAN THIS IS SO SIMPLE a child could grasp it and TRUE IT IS .
Any gentile born or hebrew born is born BLIND as a bat from its mamas womb and shall remain blind unto the TOMB
IF they COME NOT TO CHRIST JESUS .
The flesh profits a jew and a gentile , ALL WHO by the flesh were of ADAM and EVE
REMAIN DEAD , as all have sinned .
THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY to be set free from death and to have eternal life .
AND if one rejects THAT NAME , THAT CHRIST , THEY HAVE REJECTED GOD ALL MIGHTY HIMSELF .
GOD testified even to abraham OF CHRIST JESUS
OH YES . HE SURE DID .
The law was only added due to trangressions and even with many who were of the jewsih lineange
GOD WAS NOT WELL PLEASED .
If any man , any woman rejects CHRIST JESUS , it dont matter if they hollered GOD IS MY FATHER
THEY DADDY IS THE DEVIL . as JESUS TOLD even the jews who tried to holller GOD IS OUR FATHER , WE HAVE ONE FATHER
and he said Ye father is the devil .
HOW can a man LOVE GOD when said man REJECTS JESUS THE CHRIST .
HAD you loved GOD you would have LOVED ME for i came forth of HIM .
What i say to one i say to all
THE unbelieving jew and all unbelieving gentiles have one father and IT SURE AINT GOD .
TIS IMPOSSIBLE to LOVE GOD and reject CHRIST . yet many sure seems to think its possible .
MANY GONNA WAIL on the day of the LORD .
AND EVEN MANY who claimed to BELIEVE ON JESUS will wail
cause HAD THEY TRULY BELIEVED ON HIM , THEY HAD BELIEVED HIS WORDS and not tried to omit HIS WORDS .
MANY GONNA WAIL loudly on the day OF THE LORD . FOR many have not the LOVE OF GOD , THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH
within them . THEY LOVE and made A LIE .

 

[amigo de christo]

Why does God require us to come to Christ?

cause as eve and adam
ALL HAVE SINNED , ALL HAVE FALLEN SHORT of the glory of GOD .
The temporary OLD covenant was due to trangressions
TILL THE TRUE PROMISE CAME .
What man failed to do , GOD OVERCAME IT ALL to restore and to reconcile
MAN to HIM .
WHY does GOD require ...................
CAUSE GOD LOVETH and HE KNOWS
ONLY HE CAN SAVE MAN from himself and thus from the second death .
THE SECOND DEATH IS REAL . ETERNAL LIFE IS REAL .
But death lead only to the second death .
GOD KNOWS HOW TO SAVE and HE DESIRES THE GLORY . HE ALWAYS HAS DESIRED THE GLORY
AND BY GOLLY ITS HIS RIGHT to DO SO .
The pot , however has NOT RIGHT to desire the glory .
Any man and any woman ever born of adam and eve
WOULD HAVE DONE exactly what EVE did and adam did .
FAILED .
But the WORD of GOD and GOD IS HIS WORD
that became flesh PREVAILED and THUS OVERCAME and even took on our sins .
TO REJECT JESUS IS TO REJECT GOD and i shall STAND AGAINST the false love all inclusive interfaith lie
SO LONG as i have breath and reside on earth . ANTI CHRIST IT IS and of anti christ it came . I SHALL Expose it
no matter the cost to me . I POINT TO ONE GOD , ONE CHRIST and beg all TO READ ONE BOOK . THE HOLY BIBLE .
cause these wolves in wool are fleecing all now . Expose them i will , expose al false doctrine i will
false hope , false love , anything contrary to GOD , WILL BE EXPOSED ON MY WATCH .
And if to many that makes me seem a hater , THEN SO BE IT .
GOD SAVES , men grave . TIME FOR BIBLICAL TRUTH to be our meat again .

 

[David in NJ]

cause as eve and adam
ALL HAVE SINNED , ALL HAVE FALLEN SHORT of the glory of GOD .
The temporary OLD covenant was due to trangressions
TILL THE TRUE PROMISE CAME .
What man failed to do , GOD OVERCAME IT ALL to restore and to reconcile
MAN to HIM .
WHY does GOD require ...................
CAUSE GOD LOVETH and HE KNOWS
ONLY HE CAN SAVE MAN from himself and thus from the second death .
THE SECOND DEATH IS REAL . ETERNAL LIFE IS REAL .
But death lead only to the second death .
GOD KNOWS HOW TO SAVE and HE DESIRES THE GLORY . HE ALWAYS HAS DESIRED THE GLORY
AND BY GOLLY ITS HIS RIGHT to DO SO .
The pot , however has NOT RIGHT to desire the glory .
Any man and any woman ever born of adam and eve
WOULD HAVE DONE exactly what EVE did and adam did .
FAILED .
But the WORD of GOD and GOD IS HIS WORD
that became flesh PREVAILED and THUS OVERCAME and even took on our sins .
TO REJECT JESUS IS TO REJECT GOD and i shall STAND AGAINST the false love all inclusive interfaith lie
SO LONG as i have breath and reside on earth . ANTI CHRIST IT IS and of anti christ it came . I SHALL Expose it
no matter the cost to me . I POINT TO ONE GOD , ONE CHRIST and beg all TO READ ONE BOOK . THE HOLY BIBLE .
cause these wolves in wool are fleecing all now . Expose them i will , expose al false doctrine i will
false hope , false love , anything contrary to GOD , WILL BE EXPOSED ON MY WATCH .
And if to many that makes me seem a hater , THEN SO BE IT .
GOD SAVES , men grave . TIME FOR BIBLICAL TRUTH to be our meat again .

@Aunty Jane

What say you on this?

Why are we required to come to Christ?

 

[Ritajanice]

…..in fact, no one can come to the son without an invitation from his Father. (John 6:44; 65) So it’s God who chooses us as much as we think we choose him.

Amen!......God chooses....in some men’s / woman’s arrogance...they think they can choose.

 

[Behold]

no one can come to the son without an invitation from his Father.

The Cross of Christ is the eternal invitation that is given to everyone, for the last 2000 yrs, since Jesus became the invitation.

John 3:16

EVERYONE is invited to Believe in Jesus, as that OFFER is established forever, by Jesus's Cross.

 

[Ritajanice]

There is nowhere in scripture where it says that you can invite yourself to be Born Of The Spirit....that is an act of God....that only His Living Spirit can perform.= comes by supernatural divine heart revelation...

Spirit gives birth to spirit.......God chooses and God does the birthing...man has no say in the matter....