Believing on Christ is a evidence of being born again !

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amigo de christo

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The red in my post, born of God.

It was in the year 2000 it became known that in our church a very likeable person and professing Christian in fact was a notorious pedophile who misused in total about 50 children, among them children of the church and notable also his own 2 children, a boy and a girl.

He believed in Jesus, was he born again? He never showed regret and after his prison period he went to Thailand and continued his practices until the authorities imprisoned him.
Not all who profess HIS name are His .
Many follow another jesus .
The key to a beleiver is they TRULY believe and have confessed His name
and their fruits will prove what tree they are truly of my friend .
For HIS own have HIS SPIRIT and thus by the POWER of the RISEN savoir
they walk pleasing unto HIM . Having the desires and ability to do so BY GOD .
 

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Italy has exported two global entities -- the Mafia and the Catholic Church. Ironic.

Made men generally are Roman-Catholics. Still, not much has been written about Mafiosi making (or not making) peace with the New Testament God before shuffling off this mortal coil.

At the same time, Sicilian or Italian mobsters are very dedicated to their faith. In fact, some of them study the bible.




Extreme example of believers without a heart change.
How often could even the priests , the jewish leaders appear to have a zeal
appear quite religious in fact and yet their heart was far far from HIM .
A beleiver without a heart change is NO BELEIVER at all .
As dust in the wind so is their faith and as the leaves of a tree
they often change with the seasons of men and of times . Adapting to society in some way , shape , or fashion .
Always learning but unable to come to the Truth .
Worse , many sit under and heed such men . And though they are always learning
new greek , hebrew , or doctrine , they simply cannot hear TRUTH .
Truth to them is what their own hearts tell them is truth . NOT what the WORD OF GOD says IS TRUTH . they will twist
HIS words to suit their own pleasures in life . And that be a fact my friend .
 
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Italy has exported two global entities -- the Mafia and the Catholic Church. Ironic.

Made men generally are Roman-Catholics. Still, not much has been written about Mafiosi making (or not making) peace with the New Testament God before shuffling off this mortal coil.

At the same time, Sicilian or Italian mobsters are very dedicated to their faith. In fact, some of them study the bible.




Extreme example of believers without a heart change.
IT appears the world itself is in large under the influence of Her .
Have you ever wondered why it is that in so many churches
all you hear these days is largely talks about inclusivity , diverseness , and now interfaith .
Used to be , years back a man could walk into churches
and their messages were not so unified . Now its all about this love judge not you often hear
and talks about perhaps doing some good works to the poor
and about being inclusive , diversity , a call for unity but it aint UNDER GOD and HIS words are trod under foot
cause to them such words cause DIVISIONS and offences . Yeah there sure has been a harlot at work all right .
And has been calling all children home to her . we better all watch out and be on guard and stay alert
and refreshed in prayer and bible reading .
 
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The verses seem pretty straight forward. God saves us by grace through the gift of faith that is offered ALL people, unto salvation.
Offered . AFTER YE BELEIVED you were SEALED with that HOLY SPIRIT of promise .
I sure never seemed to see him say BEFORE YOU BELEIVED you were sealed with that HOLY SPIRIT of PROMISE .
The word BELEIVE is under attack .
But why . Because it divides and it offends and they cannot have this one world lovey do religoin
if one keeps hollering ONE MUST BELIEVE in JESUS the CHRIST .
They have to rather make it appear to seem like all religoins somehow DO KNOW GOD .
Sister i smell a skunk in their version of love and man its a real big stink in that pot .
IF one was to examine their pot of what they call love punch which they offer up to this generation ,
one would see DEATH in that pot cloaked with spices of what the world sees as love . That pot has a might strong stink
to the nostrils of a lamb who drinketh ONLY from the pure waters of the LORD and HIS CISTERN .
 

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John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
John 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

I understand that the red is a condition for the blue to become reality in a person.

The blue alone does not make a person a child of God.
Its the word BELEIVE that is really troubling this generation . Many now desire to believe there is no need TO BELEIVE
and that all religoins and all of humanity gonna be just fine if even they believed not .
That is the problem. Today what most think is love , AINT THE LOVE of GOD at all .
And while they think they show this world the love of GOD , THEY DONT . BELIEVING IN JESUS THE CHRIST
is no longer their mission , this other reconciling man to man IS their mission .
And that there IS the problem . OH i am sure they gonna reconcile many to many
But they wont be RECONCILED TO GOD my friend .
 
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John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
John 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

I understand that the red is a condition for the blue to become reality in a person.

The blue alone does not make a person a child of God.
There is NO BLUE without the RED . But sirs what must i do to be saved
BELEIVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
OH i know the pope tries so hard through interfaith AS DO MANY OTHERS , to claim all religoins are the sons and daughters of GOD
and just worship God differently . But man he is not TRUTH TELLING at all .
And HE is far from the ONLY one within christendom that now does this .
It will continue to get only worse as this delusion of what these unified peoples , but NOT UNDER GOD ,
by what these reconciled peoples to peoples , BUT NOT TO GOD , as they continue in this darkness of what they call light .
This path is a bad one my friend and that broad road wont LEAD A SOUL to GOD either
rather it will lead them to SUDDEN DESTRUCTION , though it promised them PEACE N SAFETY .
 
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HE WHO INSPIRED IT does .
He who inspired the Bible, is a “ Living “ Spirit...he is not the Bible...the Bible confirms this.

The Bible agrees that God knows your heart. God said to Samuel that He sees not as man sees: “man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart” (1 Samuel 16:7).

But often some of HIS words get in the way of what most want to hear and to beleive .
Indeed, there are those who only want to discuss the scripture, that they want to discuss and won’t discuss other scriptures...they just dismiss them, they too do not want to hear and believe.

He who inspired the Bible is a Living Spirit...he is not the Bible, just as his word says.

We must be Born Again to believe in Jesus..= by supernatural divine heart revelation.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...just as the Bible confirms.
The Spirit is Gods Living Witness/ testimony...the Bible confirms this.
 
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Thats false, one must be saved /born again to believe in Jesus

As we all see, the words of Jesus are the truth.

A person must believe in order to be saved.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


Please explain how a person becomes born again without ever hearing about Jesus Christ.
 

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As we all see, the words of Jesus are the truth.

A person must believe in order to be saved.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


Please explain how a person becomes born again without ever hearing about Jesus Christ.
Thats false, one must be saved /born again to believe in Jesus
 

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He who inspired the Bible, is a “ Living “ Spirit...he is not the Bible...the Bible confirms this.

The Bible agrees that God knows your heart. God said to Samuel that He sees not as man sees: “man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart” (1 Samuel 16:7).


Indeed, there are those who only want to discuss the scripture, that they want to discuss and won’t discuss other scriptures...they just dismiss them, they too do not want to hear and believe.

He who inspired the Bible is a Living Spirit...he is not the Bible, just as his word says.

We must be Born Again to believe in Jesus..= by supernatural divine heart revelation.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...just as the Bible confirms.
The Spirit is Gods Living Witness/ testimony...the Bible confirms this.
Do you even truly know what it is that you even believe sister .
Lets ask a simple question .
Are you ready . this is a simple one .
If you were invited to attend a massive meeting of all kinds of folks
and the question was being asked which said , HOW can one be saved .
How would you respond to such a question .
 

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Read your Bible @Ritajanice
One minute you’re saying you don’t need the Bible and it’s from 2,000 years ago. Next minute you are posting scriptures, yet you criticize others for posting scriptures. Then in other posts you say that someone hasn’t quoted any scriptures in their post, but you also don’t like it when people do post scriptures.

In Post 203 you told Amigo:
“you produced no scripture whatsoever.”

Quite a lot of interfaith people are like this. They’ll rebuke Christians for quoting parts of the Bible that they don’t like, or makes them feel uncomfortable, saying things like its 2,000 years old, like you said. Only then to post scriptures themselves, but only parts of the Bible that they like and suits them.

Open the Bible. Start with page 1 and read it right through to the end. Keep doing it. You have been exposed as confused and not knowing your Bible at all.

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Well someone answered correctly . Why o why dear sister do you think
another did not answer such a question . Sniff , sniff , me smells an all too familiar odor of inclusive intefaith lovey do stink .
WHY was and were the certain specific questions i asked not answered by another .
DID they make sense to you . as this other said the questoins make no sense to her .
SOmeone is avoiding the answer . many believe and are already well under the influence of that which has come
to merge them all as one .
 
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Thats false, one must be saved /born again to believe in Jesus
Rather odd that this is not the way paul answered the jailer .
WHEN THE JAILOR asked the questoin
BUT SIRS what must i do to be saved THEY SAID YE MUST BELIEVE .
Ever get the feeling CALIVIN SCREWED THINGS UP BIG TIME . cause i sure do .
 

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As we all see, the words of Jesus are the truth.

A person must believe in order to be saved.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


Please explain how a person becomes born again without ever hearing about Jesus Christ.
Guess that feller thinks calvin was right and JESUS wrong
that calivin was right and paul was wrong .
Cause the last time i checked WHEN THE JAILOR came rushing in
and saying WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED
THEY SAID YE MUST BELEIVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST . someone screwed things up big time .
I would not heed a word one outta that mans lips any longer . but hey , thats me . We really
truly should have learned the bible for ourselves my friend .
 

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In your impatience you missed I did answer you, actually the answer (I think) you wanted to hear.
answer a man according to his folly . this is and has become the problem of the church today .
And to some degree folks sure seem to be under this folly .
Some WAY MORE than others but whether small or great they alll in part already do this .
What is the THIS speak of
ANSWERING ONE according to what WE THINK they DESIRE TO HEAR . aka that is known as pandering to the flesh of man .
OH lets not get defensive , I never accused you of whole heartedly YET believingthe lie .
BUT my reminder today is RATHER THIS .
SPEAK NOT what you think might please them , SPEAK THE TRUTH and let the cards fly as they fly .
 
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IF i had a penny , yes i said penny , not even nickel or dime did i use
but if i had a penny for how often i have heard it said
OH MY you cant say this or that , THAT MIGHT OFFEND THEM , BABY I WOULD HAVE SO MUCH MONEY
that perhaps i could feed the entire world .
THAT HAS BECOME THE MOTTO of the churches and it has and it will lead all to the LIE , cause leaven leavens
and error begets error . SINCE when did TRUTH become an obstacle to GOD .
CAUSE IT SURE SEEMS this generation sees TRUTH , CORRECTION as an obstacle to Finding GOD .
Man i just summed up the entire crack pipe this generation has been smoking on for years .
NEWSFLASH . JESUS sure didnt seem so worried or concerned about HOW or what to say .
TRUTH is even when HIS own apostels got concerned that it offended some
HE SAID , LET THEM BE , every plant my FATHER has not planted shall be rooted up . THEY THE BLIND leading the blind .
SEEKER FRIENDLY was of the devil . YEAH everyone of you all heard me right .
SEEKER FRIENDLY would have run JESUS and all the apostels and TRUTH right out the door .
MAY I SUGGEST we open the bible again and FALL DEEPLY IN LOVE with the TRUTH that is written . I mean is that too
much to ask .
 

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As we all see, the words of Jesus are the truth.

A person must believe in order to be saved.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


Please explain how a person becomes born again without ever hearing about Jesus Christ.
She cant . THE BORN AGAIN BELIEVE . how can one BELIEVE if one hears not what they must FIRST BELIEVE IN .
That is gonna sting many people . I smell death all over the place my friend and many sure seem to enjoy the smell of it
as they think its love . I SMELL DEATH . its BIBLE TIME in the house .
Let it not be said i never once tried to get this people back into the bible again for thier own selves and to learn
for themselves .
 

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If one "believes" they'll have a pizza, it does not mean they had a pizza.

The correct order is: We are first drawn by God, then we believe, then we are born again at a "day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only" (Matthew 24:36).
 
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If one "believes" they'll have a pizza, it does not mean they had a pizza.

The correct order is: We are first drawn by God, then we believe, then we are born again at a "day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only" (Matthew 24:36).
sorry scott a , you started out so strong i had actually stopped reading and put a fat love sign on this .
I mean you are right in part , but the momemnt i seen the day and hour none knows
i knew , DARN this feller is not understanding what that meant . THAT DAY cometh
and when it do , IT DELIVERS WRATH UPON THE UNBELIEVER . lets not forget that part scott .
JESUS even warned HIS OWN who already BELEIVED IN HIM to be watching for that hour
and that none knew it . Man scott you had my heart strings all excited , but in part the fault is mine
i didnt read the whole of it . I should have read it all first . Man scott you gotta stop toying with my heart strings like that .
I MEAN man you started RIGHT OUT THE GATE ON FIRE WITH TRUTH , such a lovely reminder and how you used pizza as an example
WOW that was wonderful . BUT THEN YOU JUST HAD TO GO and add the rest . man scott i was really excited too .
 
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