Believing on Christ is a evidence of being born again !

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Now your speaking my language...keep it up...LOL.
NO. Not speaking your language.
Those are the words of BF.
He's a Calvinist.
Calvinists are not representative of what Christianity believes.
They are the ONLY ones that believe as they do.

He uses language that sounds kind of nice to the uninformed.
Fortunately, many of us know that language and are willing to discuss
with BF.

So, there you have it.
You should run from Calvinism as fast as you can.
But you don't.
 

Ritajanice

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Do you believe ANY truth?

Come visit.
I think I’ve shown you what truth I believe GG....only you don’t understand what truth I’m talking about it seems.

Still evading my question...GG..there is nothing wrong in not understanding what some members post.

The truth is...I know God in my heart, as that is where his Living seed, grows and matures me in Gods knowledge.

Why on earth would I need to know more than that?

I know 100% in my spirit that I’m Born Again and a spirit child of the most high...that I am being conformed into Jesus image...why would I need to know more of what?..I’m trying to understand where you are coming from.
 

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NO. Not speaking your language.
Those are the words of BF.
He's a Calvinist.
Calvinists are not representative of what Christianity believes.
They are the ONLY ones that believe as they do.

He uses language that sounds kind of nice to the uninformed.
Fortunately, many of us know that language and are willing to discuss
with BF.

So, there you have it.
You should run from Calvinism as fast as you can.
But you don't.
Dear lady... he uses spirit language, something you need to familiarise yourself with..that was a language he posted that I understood....he’s spiritual...

I am a representative for the Lord....are you sure that you are?

All you seem to do, is criticise/ put downs/ everyone is wrong, except for you and your teaching is the only way...oh boy, have you got a lot to learn...

He represents Gods truth as much as you think you do...plus he’s not a Calvinist...he seeks God with his heart...can’t you see that?

It seems like the enemy has blinded you .
 

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I think I’ve shown you what truth I believe GG....only you don’t understand what truth I’m talking about it seems.

Still evading my question...GG..there is nothing wrong in not understanding what some members post.

The truth is...I know God in my heart, as that is where his Living seed, grows and matures me in Gods knowledge.

Why on earth would I need to know more than that?

I know 100% in my spirit that I’m Born Again and a spirit child of the most high...that I am being conformed into Jesus image...why would I need to know more of what?..I’m trying to understand where you are coming from.
This is all very nice..and I've told you this before.
But you don't stop here and, frankly, it's rather boring to have to hear you repeat this over and over as if you're the
only person on this forum that knows about being born again.

But then you post theological doctrine that is calvinist and you SEEM to not even know it.
Of course, I believe you know exactly what you're posting but like to play the innocent game...

So,,,RJ,,,I know VERY WELL what you're talking about and what you're doing.
 

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Dear lady... he uses spirit language, something you need to familiarise yourself with..that was a language he posted that I understood....he’s spiritual...

I am a representative for the Lord....are you sure that you are?

All you seem to do, is criticise/ put downs/ everyone is wrong, except for you and your teaching is the only way...oh boy, have you got a lot to learn...

He represents Gods truth as much as you think you do...plus he’s not a Calvinist...he seeks God with his heart...can’t you see that?

It seems like the enemy has blinded you .
Yes my dear...
CALVINISM IS WRONG.
Let me repeat again...
Calvinism/reformed faith IS WRONG.

There are reasons why it's wrong...
this is NOT AN OPINION of mine.

And I do believe I'm well-versed in his language..
as he well knows.
 

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You should run from Calvinism as fast as you can.
You are now telling me to run from the teachings of God that I post...you are extremely confused GG..I pray that God release you from your confusion...focus on God, chill out more and maybe take a break from posting, spend quality time seeking God out with all your heart.

That is what I have done in the past, taken months off from the forum and sought God out....talk to him about your frustration and confusion....he’s waiting.
 

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You are now telling me to run from the teachings of God that I post...you are extremely confused GG..I pray that God release you from your confusion...focus on God, chill out more and maybe take a break from posting, spend quality time seeking God out with all your heart.

That is what I have done in the past, taken months off from the forum and sought God out....talk to him about your frustration and confusion....he’s waiting.
No need to take months off to cool down.
I know Whom I have believed.

You do what you have to...
God is my strength, and His truth will be told.
 

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This is all very nice..and I've told you this before.
But you don't stop here and, frankly, it's rather boring to have to hear you repeat this over and over as if you're the
only person on this forum that knows about being born again.
I’m the only person who understands Born Again the way that God has brought me to understand what it means....everyone understands Born Again differently it seems....sorry it’s boring to you...my spirit is Alive in Christ and I will continue to glorify and speak in the Name of Jesus.
But then you post theological doctrine that is calvinist and you SEEM to not even know it.
Of course, I believe you know exactly what you're posting but like to play the innocent game...

So,,,RJ,,,I know VERY WELL what you're talking about and what you're doing.
I post all that is placed on my heart to post by the Spirit....if you understood everything that I post, then why do you keep evading my questions, can you see your contradiction there?

You also tell me what I am doing @GodsGrace ..instead of making accusations...address what I’m doing?


You TELL members that they are wrong, you tell some of us we are Calvinists.you don’t discuss, you just continue to TELL .that’s whats coming out of your mouth...it’s certainly not coming out from the mouth of the Spirit.....

You speak constantly imo to members in the old man of flesh...if anything is boring it’s that...you just try and drag some members down that don’t agree with you....every single post of yours that you post to those who don’t agree with you.is steeped in criticism/ put downs/ condemnation etc..please get a grip GG...

Discuss the subject matter and please try and stop getting personal with the posters that don’t agree with you.
 
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No need to take months off to cool down.
I know Whom I have believed.
We believe in our heart, because that is where God has brought us to believe.when our spirit has been birthed into the Spirit of Christ.
You do what you have to...
God is my strength, and His truth will be told.
His truth will be told according to you...you can’t prove that you tell Gods truth, no more than any of us can.

Your posts in fact imo say the opposite to some...you are an accuser Of the brethren..I’ve pointed this out to you quite a few times...if you aren’t listening, then you must be handed over to God to deal with...and he will deal with you, in his timing...same as he dealt with me...when I constantly accused the brethren.
 
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No it's Not !

Believing is not born again ? you do however believe ?

But a truly born again will Abide in the Head and he in you ! That's a fact !

Look at them who Jesus pointed out, who clame Dident we do this and that ? and Jesus says, I never knew you !
 

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Being Born Again is being birthed in the Spirit, then we have received the supernatural faith from God to believe and know him in our spirit, that is where the Spirit testifies Of God’s truth, to our spirit.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God.

We are spirit children..not worldly children...stay open minded to the Spirit Of God...otherwise you will stay stuck and not grow in spirit knowledge...I emphasise open your mind to God via His Spirit, seek him out with all of your heart, for there is where you will find him..his word confirms this.
 

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Another scripture passage that indicates that believing on Christ is the evidence of having been born again is Jn 8: 43 ,47

Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

He that is of God heareth God’s words:
ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

In order to hear Gods words spiritually ye must be of God Jesus says, which I believe means born of God.

Now since Faith cometh into manifestation/activity by hearing the Word of God as per Rom 10:17

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

It is reasonably concluded that being born of God first evidences the Hearing of Faith/Word of Faith or of God ! Also when Paul writes of the Hearing of Faith Gal 3:2,5

This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith

The hearing of Faith is possible only by the born of God !
 

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Another scripture passage that indicates that believing on Christ is the evidence of having been born again is Jn 8: 43 ,47

Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

He that is of God heareth God’s words:
ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

In order to hear Gods words spiritually ye must be of God Jesus says, which I believe means born of God.

Now since Faith cometh into manifestation/activity by hearing the Word of God as per Rom 10:17

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

It is reasonably concluded that being born of God first evidences the Hearing of Faith/Word of Faith or of God ! Also when Paul writes of the Hearing of Faith Gal 3:2,5

This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith

The hearing of Faith is possible only by the born of God !
That’s your testimony and belief.

Mine is different.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God..in other words as he was indwelling me through my body and taking up residence in my spirit, those are the words he spoke to my spirit.
My spirit recognised his voice straight away and there I was reconciled back to my Father’s Spirit..a spirit child that I am now, 33 yrs and counting.
I was supernaturally birthed by divine heart revelation...in my case for sure.

Romans 8​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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Another scripture passage that indicates that believing on Christ is the evidence of having been born again is Jn 8: 43 ,47

Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

He that is of God heareth God’s words:
ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

In order to hear Gods words spiritually ye must be of God Jesus says, which I believe means born of God.

Now since Faith cometh into manifestation/activity by hearing the Word of God as per Rom 10:17

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Good morning BF....
Faith comes by hearing the word of God.
Every Christian believes this...
It is reasonably concluded that being born of God first evidences the Hearing of Faith/Word of Faith or of God ! Also when Paul writes of the Hearing of Faith Gal 3:2,5

But the you say the above.
Your words:
"It is reasonably concluded that being born of God first evidences the Hearing of Faith/Word of Faith or of God ! Also when Paul writes of the Hearing of Faith Gal 3:2,5"

That sounds funny.
Could you clarify?
This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith

The hearing of Faith is possible only by the born of God !
 
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Good morning BF....
Faith comes by hearing the word of God.
Every Christian believes this...


But the you say the above.
Your words:
"It is reasonably concluded that being born of God first evidences the Hearing of Faith/Word of Faith or of God ! Also when Paul writes of the Hearing of Faith Gal 3:2,5"

That sounds funny.
Could you clarify?
I did clarify, you just cant comprehend obviously
 
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I did clarify, you just cant comprehend obviously
So now you can't even clarify your own statements.
Incredible !

You are one mean person BF....

So let's take a look at what you stated:
Here it is again:

It is reasonably concluded that being born of God first evidences the Hearing of Faith/Word of Faith or of God ! Also when Paul writes of the Hearing of Faith Gal 3:2,5

Sounds like you're saying that one has to be born again in order to hear the word.

BUT

Romans states the opposite:
It states that FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE WORD.
Romans 10:17

YOU said:
We hear the word AFTER we become born again.

So, unless you clarify,,,you are ONCE AGAIN creating a conflict in scripture.

Romans states that we hear the word to become saved.
You are stating that we must be saved to hear the word.
Conflict.
 
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So now you can't even clarify your own statements.
Incredible !

You are one mean person BF....

So let's take a look at what you stated:
Here it is again:

It is reasonably concluded that being born of God first evidences the Hearing of Faith/Word of Faith or of God ! Also when Paul writes of the Hearing of Faith Gal 3:2,5

Sounds like you're saying that one has to be born again in order to hear the word.

BUT

Romans states the opposite:
It states that FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE WORD.
Romans 10:17

YOU said:
We hear the word AFTER we become born again.

So, unless you clarify,,,you are ONCE AGAIN creating a conflict in scripture.

Romans states that we hear the word to become saved.
You are stating that we must be saved to hear the word.
Conflict.
You cant understand the clarification. I cant just keep clarifying to someone who lacks understanding
 
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