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GodsGrace

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Thats not my job to prove truth to you, that's Gods doing. Its not always Gods will to enlighten people with Truth, like these He sends a strong delusion to believe a lie 2 Thess 2:11-12

Well, actually BF, as you must know,,,it IS important that a person be able to support the statements he makes on these threads.
If you cannot support a statement of yours with scripture....
perhaps you should not be making such statements and trying to be a strong delusion to those that may want to know and honor the
one true God.

IF you think you have the TRUTH....
why would you not be willing to share the scriptures that go with it?

You give me a verse....
I respond with exegesis...

Can YOU not do the same??
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Yes. Like I said...YOU are that delusion Brightfame.
Spreading lies about God throughout these forums.

GOD IS LOVE
GOD IS MERCY
GOD IS JUST

He is exactly the opposite of what YOU teach.
YOU are a strong delusion.


James 3:1
1Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.


That sounds very serious....
 
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Well, actually BF, as you must know,,,it IS important that a person be able to support the statements he makes on these threads.
If you cannot support a statement of yours with scripture....
perhaps you should not be making such statements and trying to be a strong delusion to those that may want to know and honor the
one true God.

IF you think you have the TRUTH....
why would you not be willing to share the scriptures that go with it?

You give me a verse....
I respond with exegesis...

Can YOU not do the same??

Yes. Like I said...YOU are that delusion Brightfame.
Spreading lies about God throughout these forums.

GOD IS LOVE
GOD IS MERCY
GOD IS JUST

He is exactly the opposite of what YOU teach.
YOU are a strong delusion.


James 3:1
1Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.

That sounds very serious....
I started this thread supporting it with scripture, so what are you talking about ?
 

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I started this thread supporting it with scripture, so what are you talking about ?
Here's what you do BF:
You begin a thread with a good OP.
You post on that thread with continued good posts (not that I agree with them but they are well-written).
BUT
They are posts written to NO ONE.
You could have copied them from somewhere.
Maybe you use chatgpt.
Who knows where you get them from.
But they certainly are not yours and we both know this to be true.

THEN
When you get replies that you can't handle...you start with the type of replies like you give to me above.

So, I'm replying to your OP.
I'm refuting it.

Apparently, you are UNABLE to sustain your belief system.
Know why?
Because you're writing is not your own and you're just parroting what you hear.

You don't have to justify yourself to me or anyone else...
but know that many of us will be reading and replying to your threads and we will
be commenting on the incorrect theology you espouse.

For instance YOU claim God does not love everyone.
John states that God loves the whole world.

Who should we believe? YOU or John ?

And do remember James 3:1
It's a very serious verse.
 

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Here's what you do BF:
You begin a thread with a good OP.
You post on that thread with continued good posts (not that I agree with them but they are well-written).
BUT
They are posts written to NO ONE.
You could have copied them from somewhere.
Maybe you use chatgpt.
Who knows where you get them from.
But they certainly are not yours and we both know this to be true.

THEN
When you get replies that you can't handle...you start with the type of replies like you give to me above.

So, I'm replying to your OP.
I'm refuting it.

Apparently, you are UNABLE to sustain your belief system.
Know why?
Because you're writing is not your own and you're just parroting what you hear.

You don't have to justify yourself to me or anyone else...
but know that many of us will be reading and replying to your threads and we will
be commenting on the incorrect theology you espouse.

For instance YOU claim God does not love everyone.
John states that God loves the whole world.

Who should we believe? YOU or John ?

And do remember James 3:1
It's a very serious verse.
You upset because I dont chase your rabbit trails with your obsession's against the Gospel/Calvinism, please stop disrupting every thread with that.
 

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You upset because I dont chase your rabbit trails with your obsession's against the Gospel/Calvinism, please stop disrupting every thread with that.
@GodsGrace is obsessed that we are Calvinists.

She has been deceived, I pray with sincerity of heart, that she comes to Gods truth, as I can see that she desperately seeks it, only she’s seeking in the wrong place....she needs God to open up her heart more, for there is where she will find him..that is what I pray for and if God is leading me to help her understand that..he knows that I’m well up for it...she needs his loving ,gentle Spirit to lead her into his truth.
 

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You upset because I dont chase your rabbit trails with your obsession's against the Gospel/Calvinism, please stop disrupting every thread with that.
Which EVERY THREAD BF?
I think this is the only one I'm on that you began.

Plus, I'm not upset.
YOU can't make me upset.

And which rabbit trail?
I post a verse....and YOU can't reply to it.
That's a rabbit trail?

And yes, I am VERY MUCH against Calvinism...
of this you're correct.
Why?
Because it's a heretical teaching/belief system
and
It's blasphemous.

Want to go down those rabbit trails?
I can explain to you exactly WHY this is so.

BTW,,, YOU seem to be obsessed...obsessed in disseminating incorrect calvinist, man-made doctrine.
why can't I be obsessed with posting the TRUTH ??
I'm just trying to correct these incorrect teachings you keep posting...

James 3:1
1Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.
 
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@GodsGrace is obsessed that we are Calvinists.

She has been deceived, I pray with sincerity of heart, that she comes to Gods truth, as I can see that she desperately seeks it, only she’s seeking in the wrong place....she needs God to open up her heart more, for there is where she will find him..that is what I pray for and if God is leading me to help her understand that..he knows that I’m well up for that...
Calvinists do love to stick together...
this is a fact.
 
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Calvinists do love to stick together...
this is a fact.
I say this with sincerity of heart...praying that the Spirit opens up your heart more and more to know him..in Jesus Name...Amen!.

I’m not sticking with @brightfame52 at all...I’m led by the Spirit...he has his own journey with God...a lot of what he posts,I don’t understand, why would I need to understand what he posts? when I have the Spirit leading me and bringing my spirit to his understanding..

I think you need to focus more on the Holy Spirit and not other people...as I’ve explained,they/ we are all on our own journey with the Lord..hope you come to understand that.
 

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I say this with sincerity of heart...praying that the Spirit opens up your heart more and more to know him..in Jesus Name...Amen!.

I’m not sticking with @brightfame52 at all...I’m led by the Spirit...he has his own journey with God...a lot of what he posts,I don’t understand, why would I need to understand what he posts? when I have the Spirit leading me and bringing my spirit to his understanding..
Well, let's see.
IF the spirit is leading you...
WHY don't you understand what @brightfame52 is saying.

AND

Why are you agreeing with him IF you don't even understand what he's saying??

:IDK:
 

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If you're saying being born again is the result of simply believing, you're very wrong nor is that concept at all supported by scripture. The bible says run deviks believe, so, does that mean they're born again? Nah, it doesn't, so, being born again is not accomplished by believing
 

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Which EVERY THREAD BF?
I think this is the only one I'm on that you began.

Plus, I'm not upset.
YOU can't make me upset.

And which rabbit trail?
I post a verse....and YOU can't reply to it.
That's a rabbit trail?

And yes, I am VERY MUCH against Calvinism...
of this you're correct.
Why?
Because it's a heretical teaching/belief system
and
It's blasphemous.

Want to go down those rabbit trails?
I can explain to you exactly WHY this is so.

BTW,,, YOU seem to be obsessed...obsessed in disseminating incorrect calvinist, man-made doctrine.
why can't I be obsessed with posting the TRUTH ??
I'm just trying to correct these incorrect teachings you keep posting...

James 3:1
1Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.
Do you know what this thread is about ?
 

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Well, let's see.
IF the spirit is leading you...
WHY don't you understand what @brightfame52 is saying.

AND

Why are you agreeing with him IF you don't even understand what he's saying??

:IDK:
Why would I have to understand everything that @brightfame52 posts?

Answer me this question honestly, do you understand everything that I post?

I agree with some of what he is saying, I think I have already explained that I don’t understand a lot of what he posts..a small proportion of what he posts,yes.

He is not my teacher...he just posts what he believes to be God's truth...he can’t prove it’s Gods truth now can he?

No more than we can...we aren’t teachers..just voicing what we believe.
 

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If you're saying being born again is the result of simply believing, you're very wrong nor is that concept at all supported by scripture. The bible says run deviks believe, so, does that mean they're born again? Nah, it doesn't, so, being born again is not accomplished by believing
Not saying you're wrong DJT...just trying to clarify.
Believing in God IS necessary.

What else would you say is needed?
 

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Do you know what this thread is about ?
It would be YOUR job to redirect me....
I'm absolutely CERTAIN I was replying to a post,,,
but, of course, you can't just answer...we have to go through this instead.

I do believe it's about this:

But once God Sovereignly gives a vessel of mercy a new birth by the Spirit, they are now capacitated Spiritually to believe Spiritually on Christ, hence Jesus says that those who did receive Him, even believe on His Name, did so because they had been born of God Jn 1:12-13

As you know,,,I disagree with the above.

IF God gives to a vessel of mercy the CAPACITY to believe in Christ...
WHY is it necessary for anyone to RECEIVE Christ?

Why do I have to RECEIVE what God has already CAPACITATED me to get?
 

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But once God Sovereignly gives a vessel of mercy a new birth by the Spirit, they are now capacitated Spiritually to believe Spiritually on Christ, hence Jesus says that those who did receive Him, even believe on His Name, did so because they had been born of God Jn 1:12-13
Now your speaking my language...keep it up...LOL.
 
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