The world has been “made right” in front of God.

[Dan Clarkston]

I'm not sure what you think I might have missed???

Hang in there bud, maybe you'll get it some day.

Matthew 5:6
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Jesus is not saying God has decided that only a few will be saved and He decided everyone else was created to go to hell

 

[rwb]

Jesus is not saying God has decided that only a few will be saved and He decided everyone else was created to go to hell

Where have I said otherwise? Apparently, you have not the ability to understand that since ALL humankind shall not be eternally saved, then atonement is indeed LIMITED. If atonement according to God's grace through faith will include the whole human race, why will those who have not been recorded in the Book of Life be forever condemned by the wrath of God at the GWTJ? You have to make up your mind! Shall the whole human race be eternally saved according to grace through faith? If all shall not be saved, then logic proves atonement is indeed limited to those who believe in Christ and according to grace through faith and they only shall be eternally saved.

 

[rockytopva]

It is the Holy Spirit that draws a man to his Word. Good job in study and God bless!

 

[rockytopva]

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. - Psalms 1

God's blessings on the meditations!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

ALL humankind shall not be eternally saved

I never said ALL mankind will be saved.

I said the Lord has paid the price for ALL mankind to be saved.

Big difference between the two.

Calvinists, and those influenced by their false doctrine, claim the Lord only provided salvation for a few (limited atonement) which is false doctrine and is satanic lies claiming God's Word is false.

Those influenced by calvin's false doctrine have become reprobate and cannot accept the whole counsel of God due to their understanding having been darkened by the heresy that they embrace.

It is the Holy Spirit that draws a man to his Word. Good job in study and God bless!

Jesus said if He be lifted up He would draw all men until Himself (John 12:32),

Reckon Jesus misspoke???...granted He is drawing all men thru the Holy Spirit.

 

[MatthewG]

Thank you to all whom have commented and dropped by to check this thread out.

 

[brightfame52]

@Dan Clarkston

In light of all these scriptures, we can say for sure that limited atonement taught by John Calvin is false doctrine and is in opposition to what God says

Actually limited atonement is a vital Gospel Truth, it teaches specifically for whom Christ died, and saved by His efficacious Death. Those who teach the false doctrine of unlimited atonement do damage to the saving effectiveness of His death, thats limiting His death power to save.

 

[MatthewG]

There was only one death, that being Jesus, on the cross. Atonement was made for the world. Jesus did pay for all the sins of the whole world. God rose him again 3 day laters.

1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

 

[brightfame52]

There was only one death, that being Jesus, on the cross. Atonement was made for the world. Jesus did pay for all the sins of the whole world. God rose him again 3 day laters.

1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

So then would you say that Jesus death for someone's sins doesnt ensure they shall be saved from their sins ?

 

[MatthewG]

So then would you say that Jesus death for someone's sins doesnt ensure they shall be saved from their sins ?

Faith in Non-faith is what keeps them from being adopted into the family of God. Their sins have been paid for. What they do with that knowledge is up to them. To look to Yahavah, or not.

 

[brightfame52]

Faith in Non-faith is what keeps them from being adopted into the family of God. Their sins have been paid for. What they do with that knowledge is up to them. To look to Yahavah, or not.

So then would you say that Jesus death for someone's sins doesnt ensure they shall be saved from their sins ? Yes or no please

 

[MatthewG]

So then would you say that Jesus death for someone's sins doesnt ensure they shall be saved from their sins ? Yes or no please

It doesn’t ensure entrance into the Kingdom of God. So, while people have been saved from their sins. No, it doesn’t mean everyone goes into the Kingdom of God. God has instated a place outside the Kingdom.

 

[amigo de christo]

There are a few views when it comes to the world itself. The world is full of evil and good, but God is mad at it an is gonna burn it all down, is one view.

Me personally since I believe that Jesus came, died, was buried, and risen again and also returned, I believe we live under the new heavens and the new earth. Though the problems that exist all come from us as human beings but I do not see God as mad with everyone, and he is constantly calling every day for people to come to him.

Whether or not they listen. Is their choice, cause no one knows what truly on the heart of a person, when it comes down to the end of life. How much they either loved themself or actually had loved God. And he is a just and fair God who will judge the hearts we have.

THIS AINT THE NEW HEAVENS and NEW EARTH . NOT even close my friend . Not even close .
Sure aint hard to see evil if one looks around .
BUT THE NEW heavens and new earth , WHEREIN the believers STILL LOOK FORWARD TOO
that cometh after the OLD is burned up . YOU WONT FIND EVIL being loved or praticed in that one .
NOR ANY WHO LOVED AND MADE A LIE either .
Mathew you going down a seriously deadly dangerous road my friend .
THIS world is not only evil , ITS INCREASE on the LOVE OF INQUITY has MASSIVELY EXPLODED WORSE
and specially in these last hours . BUT SOON IT WILL ALL END ON THE DAY OF THE LORD .
THOUGH MANY now mock that coming and say Either it already happended , OR MOCK and say
YOU ALL been saying that for years as have all other generations and yet it all just continues
AND behave and act as though HIS coming is NOT NIGH . Hey mathew
many will wail on the DAY OF THE LORD . my desire is that you and others are not part of that many who will do so .
SO may i , might i , BEG AND PLEAD TO YOU to get back into the bible and stay in that doctrine to learn and to grow

 

[amigo de christo]

It doesn’t ensure entrance into the Kingdom of God. So, while people have been saved from their sins. No, it doesn’t mean everyone goes into the Kingdom of God. God has instated a place outside the Kingdom.

outside , where weeping and wailing shall be heard . Damanation awaits them all .
WE BEDDA , BETTER , start preaching the dire and absolute need to
to do what you might ask , TO BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST and get in the bible to ensure one is following that JESUS
and not some other jesus created of men .

 

[Marvelloustime]

THIS AINT THE NEW HEAVENS and NEW EARTH . NOT even close my friend . Not even close .
Sure aint hard to see evil if one looks around .
BUT THE NEW heavens and new earth , WHEREIN the believers STILL LOOK FORWARD TOO
that cometh after the OLD is burned up . YOU WONT FIND EVIL being loved or praticed in that one .
NOR ANY WHO LOVED AND MADE A LIE either .
Mathew you going down a seriously deadly dangerous road my friend .
THIS world is not only evil , ITS INCREASE on the LOVE OF INQUITY has MASSIVELY EXPLODED WORSE
and specially in these last hours . BUT SOON IT WILL ALL END ON THE DAY OF THE LORD .
THOUGH MANY now mock that coming and say Either it already happended , OR MOCK and say
YOU ALL been saying that for years as have all other generations and yet it all just continues
AND behave and act as though HIS coming is NOT NIGH . Hey mathew
many will wail on the DAY OF THE LORD . my desire is that you and others are not part of that many who will do so .
SO may i , might i , BEG AND PLEAD TO YOU to get back into the bible and stay in that doctrine to learn and to grow

@amigo de christo

 

[MatthewG]

I’m thankful that God loves those who don’t love him, and have a place for them to go. It’s truly a testimony to his unfailing love.

 

[brightfame52]

It doesn’t ensure entrance into the Kingdom of God. So, while people have been saved from their sins. No, it doesn’t mean everyone goes into the Kingdom of God. God has instated a place outside the Kingdom.

So does Jesus death for a sinner ensure theyre going to heaven, Glory ? Yes or no

 

[brightfame52]

@MatthewG

It doesn’t ensure entrance into the Kingdom of God. So, while people have been saved from their sins. No, it doesn’t mean everyone goes into the Kingdom of God.

So let me get this straight, you believe a person can be saved from their sins and yet go to hell, be excluded from heaven ?

 

[MatthewG]

I believe what the Bible shares with the audience in Revelation 21-22, that to me is the state which we live under and in, the New heavens and earth, @brightfame52.

 

[MatthewG]

While some don’t believe that we do live in the new heavens and new earth. I have no judgement upon them. It’s individuals decision in what they are gonna believe. People who believe we live in the ends times and that the wrath of God is coming now today. I have no judgement upon. People have the liberty to decide for themselves and that is what makes a difference.

In the end a person can’t be Christian if they do not believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. And I believe Yahavah has made it possible for them to dwell outside of the gates of the Kingdom, and it’s told in revelation that the gates never close and that is interesting at least to me.