Harmful Doctrines Part 1

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Behold

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Your testimony, is not biblical on how we become Born Again.

Im not giving you my personal Testimony.

Im showing you Paul's theology.., that teaches how a person is lead of the Spirit to believe the Gospel, and once they do, God forgives their sin, and gives them the "new Birth".....which is Spiritual Union with God. as ... "in Christ' and "one with God".

I ask you again ,how do you know that Jesus was the Messiah!p?

Because Jesus said He's the Messiah, and died and rose again to prove it.
 

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Im not giving you my personal Testimony.

Im showing you Paul's theology.., that teaches how a person is lead of the Spirit to believe the Gospel, and once they do, God forgives their sin, and give them the "new Birth".....which is Spiritual Union with God.



Because Jesus said He's the Messiah, and died and rose again to prove it.
She doesn’t believe the Bible.
 

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Im not giving you my personal Testimony.

Im showing you Paul's theology.., that teaches how a person is lead of the Spirit to believe the Gospel, and once they do, God forgives their sin, and give them the "new Birth".....which is Spiritual Union with God.



Because Jesus said He's the Messiah, and died and rose again to prove it.
Once again you have evaded my question.how do you know that Jesus was the Messiah?
 

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A person whose end goal and desire is to just be forgiven of sin in their lives and then to move back into the world, is not repentant, forgiven and carnal indeed - not saved at all.

What do you mean by saved? A certain status that guarantees you cannot have iniquity imputed to you? Study what forgiveness is in the bible. Forgiveness is to set aside (send away) offenses...that can be brought back unless there is a change in behaviour. And forgiveness does not empower someone to not sin. For that we need the blood of Christ to cleanse us from sin and empower us to not sin the same way that Jesus also overcame sin.
Why are you so inclined to believe, without any proof, that most believers in Christ are these carnal people you suggest, not saved.

Having once been saved....justified by faith, does not guarantee a continuing grace. The easiest thing in the world is to fall from grace and justify oneself. This happens WAYYY too often, as we see in the many responses on my threads. And that is to give people the benefit of the doubt about having ever been enlightened by the Spirit.
And you never really fail to add by implication or directly, that you are but one of the few who have the secret sauce or elixir for eternal life?

Jesus has the secret sauce. I am only a witness.
This is your common posture or attitude that you have learned over time. You might want to consider repositioning your stance a bit. You might be preaching to the wrong audience.

I am indeed so often being heard through carnal ears. But I assure you that the warnings are to God's people. Read the bible and you will see the purpose of exhortation and rebuke....to save souls from death and hard judgment. My counsel is to forsake the modern religious hubris and fables and remain humble and God-fearing. For that warning I get abuse from those devoid of wisdom, knowledge and understanding. Basic things that people either never knew or have now forsaken.
When one is touched by presence God, and his grace, through his Son, to come to contrite heartfelt repentance for sin, they now are driven and desire to want more that just forgiveness of sin.

Of course. But many, once they have experienced God's presence and love, will then turn from His ways to pursue what they think is right. There is way that seems right to a man.....

The mind is not that easily renewed in our time. Can one have the mind of Christ without the broken humility of Christ?
Their true desire and goal of repentance once accepted and justified by God, is their personal realization they are now reborn in spirit. They want forgiveness to begin their new life, to lead a holy and righteous life that brings salvation in the Kingdom, today.
That's what men look for. The Lord looks for Christ-likeness in we who profess to know and follow Jesus.
 
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Ritajanice

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"God is A Spirit".. (KJV) John 4:25

"Christ is that (the) Spirit"... 2 Corin 3:17



Its because the Holy Spirit would not lead anyone to say otherwise.
Once again, you are just posting from your own understanding of what it means to be Born Of The Spirit.it does not line up with Gods word, therefore rebuke your post.
 

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She doesn’t believe the Bible.


She doesn't study it., tho she might read it, when she's not here, but if she's awake, she seems to be here.
So, not a lot of time for "bible study".

What she does is .. she listens to Calvinists, and follows them around, and then imitates them....and says..."im led of the Spirit" to do it.

And she has one or 2 online sites, that are the same DUNG, and she copies this stuff and pastes it, and says.>>>"Led of the Spirit"...
 
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Once again you have evaded my question.how do you know that Jesus was the Messiah?

Because JESUS who is THE TRUTH>........John 14:6.......says, that He is the Messiah.

So, because im born again, this means..... that i believed that TRUTH....and gave God my faith in His Son, long ago.
 

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Actually im just correcting your dishonestly with the actual bible verses.
As usual.
You have no living testimony, because you can’t answer my question.
@Episkopos has a living testimony... and that’s why you don’t understand him.

You are a religious person.no Living spiritual testimony.my honest opinion.
 

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Because JESUS who is THE TRUTH>........John 14:6.......says, that He is the Messiah.

So, because im born again, this means..... that i believed that TRUTH....and gave God my faith in His Son, long ago.
Believing a truth doesn't make you born again. Where were you indoctrinated to actually believe such a thing?
 

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Because JESUS who is THE TRUTH>........John 14:6.......says, that He is the Messiah.

So, because im born again, this means..... that i believed that TRUTH....and gave God my faith in His Son, long ago.
Sorry, no one can say Jesus is the Lord except by the Living Holy Spirit..you imo have no Living testimony in your spirit..you are a religious person imo.
 

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You have no living testimony, because you can’t answer my question.
@Episkopos has a living testimony... and that’s why you don’t understand him.

You are a religious person.no Living spiritual testimony.my honest opinion.
Listen to you judging others whom you've never even met!

Have you noticed how much you do this? I have.

Much love!
 

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Listen to you judging others whom you've never even met!

Have you noticed how much you do this? I have.

Much love!
You are the most judgmental person here. You only skulk in the background to pounce on whoever rebukes the carnal nature. You are just a troll...never engaging in the OP...just satisfying your own longings....to defend what the Lord wants to crucify.
 

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Listen to you judging others whom you've never even met!

Have you noticed how much you do this? I have.

Much love!
I am calling them out...I am asking them questions on how they know what Born Again means.

I’m judging no one.and I also ask you, how do you know who the Messiah was, by whose witness?

Yes, I’ve also noticed when you RANT and RAVE @Episkopos .you end with much love, what a hypocrite that you are.
 
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You have no living testimony, because you can’t answer my question.

You dont understand the answer and then blame the teacher.

Comprehend?

Listen....My living Testimony has Preached Jesus all over this world..

And on this Forum, my "living Testimony" is about 400 Threads, that give Jesus all the Credit do Him for our Salvation.
And many of these Threads....., highlight Calvin's heretics, and others, for the benefit of the non-deceived Christians.

And what you've proven is a Carnal GLEE to avoid simple truth, while you chase Calvinists, and pretend your religious nonsense, according to your posts.
 
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