Harmful Doctrines Part 1

[Episkopos]

How important is doctrine in the life of a believer in Christ? Are we saved by having correct beliefs? How harmful can a doctrine be if it is not both biblically and spiritually sound? Join us as we investigate how we can fall into error and accept what is harmful and unhealthy to growth in Christ.

 

[Behold]

A Harmful doctrine, would be a doctrine that you teach that says..

"The Cross is not about forgiveness"... as that is teaching that ..

= "you ither dont have to be forgiven your sin to become a Christian".

Or..

= "Jesus wasted His time on the Cross"

Or..

= "you can be forgiven your sin, some other way".

And then you also teach as your false Doctrine... that : "God does not Give His Righteousness to anyone"..

So, this again Denies The Cross, and denies God's Salvation.... and omits the very Reason that Jesus came to Earth,. .which is to offer Himself as our Sin Bearer, so that once we are FORGIVEN... based on The Cross of Christ.... God can then give us HIS Very Righteousness... so that the born again become ..

"The Righteousness of GOD......In Christ".. that is "The Gift of Righteousness" that is "The Gift of Salvation".

So, you have posted your DENIAL of all of this.. so, that is Your : FALSE DOCTRINE... @Episkopos

(Just some of it).

My Questions are......

1.) Did you again deny the Cross is "about forgiveness" in your Video?

2.) Did you again deny that "God gives Righteousness to believers" in your Video? @Episkopos ?

 

[Ritajanice]

How important is doctrine in the life of a believer in Christ? Are we saved by having correct beliefs? How harmful can a doctrine be if it is not both biblically and spiritually sound? Join us as we investigate how we can fall into error and accept what is harmful and unhealthy to growth in Christ.

Amen!!

Will listen to vid later, thank you Epi.

 

[Episkopos]

I remember one time when a fellow worker invited me to take a ride home in his car. He sat in the car, and put the car in reverse while looking out the back window. We waited for the car to move. It didn't. The thing is that he hadn't yet started the engine. That's like what doctrinal salvation looks like. A pantomime. Beliefs are not faith.

 

[Ritajanice]

Beliefs are not faith.

100% Amen!

 

[Behold]

I remember one time when a fellow worker invited me to take a ride home in his car. He sat in the car, and put the car in reverse while looking out the back window. We waited for the car to move. It didn't. The thing is that he hadn't yet started the engine. That's like what doctrinal salvation looks like. A pantomime. Beliefs are not faith.

Before there was a New Testament, there was an Old.
And in the OT Holy Men of God were moved by the Holy Spirit, to state revelation that would eventually come to pass, as the word of God, never returns void.
Before these prophets were enlisted by God to provide revelation that would prove that the entire Bible that we now possess, is not just a book... there was a man named Abram.
Abram, was moved by God to do something, and he decided to do it.. And within and during the literal and spiritual journey and to culminate it, Abram Believed God, and God """counted Abram's Faith as Righteousness".

Paul , in the NT....later defined Abraham as the "father of our faith", regarding all the Born Again.. The Body of Christ. The "Church".
This teaching is a doctrine, that is titled Soteriology, and this is the doctrine of "Justification by Faith" that is the same as..............

A.) = "Abraham BELIEVED God, and His FAITH was counted by God, as Righteousness.""

In the NT, this Pauline Doctrine, that is the Gospel of God's Grace, that is "justification by faith" "without works" or "the deeds of the Law", is also : Paul's Gospel.

When Paul was training/discipling 2 young Believers "Titus" and "Timothy" He was careful to tell them to "attend to the Doctrine", as Doctrine is How Christianity exists as a Faith... or not.

The "doctrine" of Salvation, is not just a teaching.......its a God breathed Eternal Redemption that exists as : The Cross of Christ.

The Heart of the Doctrine of Salvation, is the Shed Blood, and the Death and Resurrection of Jesus The Christ, who was seen by over 500 people after He rose from Dead.. And He is the same Risen Jesus who called Paul to give the Gospel that is the Doctrine of Salvation into this world.... that is """THE Preaching OF THE CROSS..= is the power of God unto Salvation, unto all who Believe".
The Born again, in the NT, and those who are alive today, and those who died as CHRISTians... would not be born again, without it.
The Born again, are to only use Paul's Gospel, and no other "doctrine... or you become : Galatians 1:8

So, this Doctrine of Salvation, that is Paul's Theology.... is more than just words......it more than just a teaching, its in fact an eternal redemption that is the Grace of God, that is "the power of God, unto Salvation".

 

[FearTheLord]

How important is doctrine in the life of a believer in Christ?

It's vitally important. Doctrines tell us what to believe, and through those beliefs, the Holy Spirit shows us how to obey Jesus' commandments.

Are we saved by having correct beliefs?

We're saved by believing in Christ and obeying his commandments with a good conscience and sincere heart, by the Spirit. We can't do that if we're not growing into the truth and out of the limitations of post-apostolic theologies and their traditions.

So the right doctrine is very much a part of our salvation. Though there are certain other factors involved.

[Jhn 15:2, 6, 10 NASB95] 2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every [branch] that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. ... 6 "If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned. ... 10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.

[1Ti 1:5 NASB95] 5 But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.​

How harmful can a doctrine be if it is not both biblically and spiritually sound?

False doctrines can lead born-again believers into the second death, and this is a reality within Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Protestantism alike, in different ways; Nicaea II (icon veneration), Covenant Theology (keeping the Law through the Ten Commandments), Faith Alone, Once-Saved-Always-Saved.

 

[rockytopva]

My experience is that you can have a great many characters all within the same mindset. It is amazing in my Pentecostal Holiness denomination to have noted the change in character all within the same mental doctrine. It is almost like reading into the book of judges where you would have a good and a bad generation. The roaring twenties created a whole different people for example.

 

[Episkopos]

It's vitally important. Doctrines tell us what to believe, and through those beliefs, the Holy Spirit shows us how to obey Jesus' commandments.

Doctrine shows us how we ought to live, not what we are to believe.

We're saved by believing in Christ and obeying his commandments with a good conscience and sincere heart, by the Spirit. We can't do that if we're not growing into the truth and out of the limitations of post-apostolic theologies and their traditions.

So the right doctrine is very much a part of our salvation. Though there are certain other factors involved.

[Jhn 15:2, 6, 10 NASB95] 2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every [branch] that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. ... 6 "If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned. ... 10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.

[1Ti 1:5 NASB95] 5 But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.​

False doctrines can lead born-again believers into the second death, and this is a reality within Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Protestantism alike, in different ways; Nicaea II (icon veneration), Covenant Theology (keeping the Law through the Ten Commandments), Faith Alone, Once-Saved-Always-Saved.

Amen.

 

[ProDeo]

How important is doctrine in the life of a believer in Christ? Are we saved by having correct beliefs? How harmful can a doctrine be if it is not both biblically and spiritually sound? Join us as we investigate how we can fall into error and accept what is harmful and unhealthy to growth in Christ.

Is that you on the YT video Epi?

 

[ProDeo]

Introduction at 30:00 to Acts 26:18 where the speaker changes the word forgiveness into freedom.

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. [ original ]

to :

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive freedom of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

That's a significant change and new doctrine is born, as the speaker will explain in the next minutes.

I will ask @Johann if he wants to have a look at the Greek.

In all my translations forgiveness of sins is used, not freedom of sins.

 

[Johann]

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. [ original ]

to :

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive freedom of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

That's a significant change and new doctrine is born, as the speaker will explain in the next minutes.

I will ask @Johann if he wants to have a look at the Greek.

In all my translations forgiveness of sins is used, not freedom of sins.

I'm happy to oblige, @ProDeo. Just give me about an hour or so as I'm currently at the gym.

Yours in Christ Jesus.

J.

 

[Lizbeth]

Doctrine shows us how we ought to live, not what we are to believe.

This is how many people err.....they're so either/or about so many things that are not a case of either/or. Rightly divided biblical doctrine teaches BOTH how we ought to live AS WELL AS what we are to believe/receive (by faith).

 

[amigo de christo]

Introduction at 30:00 to Acts 26:18 where the speaker changes the word forgiveness into freedom.

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. [ original ]

to :

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive freedom of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

That's a significant change and new doctrine is born, as the speaker will explain in the next minutes.

I will ask @Johann if he wants to have a look at the Greek.

In all my translations forgiveness of sins is used, not freedom of sins.

beware for epi can bring other scrips which are gonna be true .
But he is not aware its BOTH about forgivenss and about being made free from sin .
He only preaches partial truths . IT is true that on the cross our sins were laid upon HIM
and so that we BEING MADE FREE FROM SIN can LIVE UNTO RIGTHEOUSNESS . now this part A LOT DO NOT KNOW
but beware of epi . For he does as he does but there is no talk about Belief , having to beleive JESUS is the CHRIST .
THUS its make it all in vain that he do teach . Its nothing more than one using
truths to make a point and yet denies the very ONE ON SAID CROSS .
The cross is about BOTH forgivenss and being made free from sin to now live unto righteousness .
WHEN one omits the fact about ONE HAVINGTO FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , one has omitted FAITH .
and its by FAITH that one can even please GOD . YA GOTTA BELIEVE .
Abraham BELIEVED GOD and it was accounted unto him as RIGHTEOUSNESS .
Epi and others claim ye can do it even without having to BELEIVE . THEY do not do IN FAITH .
JESUS said we must BELEIVE IN HIM . Epi often preaches about the ability of the SPIRIT
but how odd it is HE WONT TESTIFY AS DOES THE SPIRIT . for the SPIRIT testifies of JESUS the CHRIST
to believe on HIM and even reminds us of ALL things HE did teach . Like i said
as did the jews who believed not so do others . THEY go abouts things to establish their own righteouness
they will not REMIND of the DIRE NEED TO FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . thus it makes it all in vain .

 

[Johann]

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive freedom of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

That's a significant change and new doctrine is born, as the speaker will explain in the next minutes.

I will ask @Johann if he wants to have a look at the Greek.

In all my translations forgiveness of sins is used, not freedom of sins.

Forgiveness of sins is correct. @marks can you help out here please.

The alteration of "forgiveness of sins" to "freedom of sins" in Acts 26:18 does indeed represent a significant shift in doctrine. The Greek text, as preserved in the Textus Receptus, reads: "ἀνοῖξαι ὀφθαλμοὺς αὐτῶν, τοῦ ἐπιστρέψαι ἀπὸ σκότους εἰς φῶς, καὶ τῆς ἐξουσίας τοῦ Σατανᾶ ἐπὶ τὸν Θεόν, τοῦ λαβεῖν αὐτοὺς ἄφεσιν ἁμαρτιῶν καὶ κλῆρον ἐν τοῖς ἡγιασμένοις πίστει τῇ εἰς ἐμέ."

Key phrase: "ἄφεσιν ἁμαρτιῶν"

The word ἄφεσιν (aphesin) is consistently translated as "forgiveness" or "remission." It derives from ἀφίημι (aphiēmi), meaning to send away, release, or forgive.

ἁμαρτιῶν (hamartiōn) translates as "of sins."

No credible Greek lexicon or source would interpret ἄφεσιν as "freedom" in this context.

Theologically, "freedom from sins" could imply an ontological or existential release from sin's power or influence, which differs significantly from the judicial or relational restoration implied by "forgiveness of sins."

To change "forgiveness" to "freedom" introduces doctrinal confusion by suggesting a reorientation of the text's focus-from divine pardon to personal emancipation. This reinterpretation from @Episkopos would need to be evaluated critically for textual accuracy and theological consistency.
Total Occurrences: 17
ἀφέσει aphései (2) N-DSF
the remission Luk_1:77
liberty Luk_4:18
ἄφεσιν áphesin (12) N-ASF
deliverance Luk_4:18
forgiveness Act_5:31, Act_26:18, Eph_1:7, Col_1:14
never forgiveness Mar_3:29, w/G2756 G1519 G165
remission Mat_26:28, Mar_1:4, Luk_24:47, Act_10:43
the remission Luk_3:3, Act_2:38
ἄφεσις áphesis (3) N-NSF
the forgiveness Act_13:38
remission Heb_9:22, Heb_10:18
English to Strong’s
deliverance G629, G859
forgiveness G859
liberty G425, G630, G859, G1657, G1658, G1849, G2010
remission G859, G3929

Syntax and Morphology
The structure of the sentence is a series of purpose clauses introduced by genitive articles (τοῦ). These clauses describe the divine objectives of Paul's commission:

To open their eyes.
To turn them from darkness to light and from Satan to God.
To enable them to receive forgiveness and inheritance.
The central phrase ἄφεσιν ἁμαρτιῶν is syntactically tied to λαβεῖν, emphasizing the reception of divine pardon as a gift.

The accusative case for ἄφεσιν (direct object) and the genitive plural ἁμαρτιῶν (possessive or descriptive) reinforces the meaning as "forgiveness of sins."

Implications of "Forgiveness" vs. "Freedom"
The Greek term ἄφεσιν does not support the translation "freedom" in this context. While ἄφεσις can denote release or liberation in certain contexts (e.g., debt remission), its consistent biblical usage in soteriological contexts refers to forgiveness or pardon granted by God.

Any translation as "freedom of sins" would require textual evidence or a broader contextual basis, which is absent here.

Don't let him confuse you with the preposition 'eis'; 'in Christ' and 'eis Christ' are used synonymously.

Romans 8:1
Greek: Οὐδὲν ἄρα νῦν κατάκριμα τοῖς ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ.
Translation: "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."

2 Corinthians 5:17
Greek: ὥστε εἴ τις ἐν Χριστῷ, καινὴ κτίσις· τὰ ἀρχαῖα παρῆλθεν, ἰδοὺ γέγονεν καινά.
Translation: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

Ephesians 1:3
Greek: Εὐλογητὸς ὁ Θεὸς καὶ Πατὴρ τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὁ εὐλογήσας ἡμᾶς ἐν πάσῃ εὐλογίᾳ πνευματικῇ ἐν τοῖς ἐπουρανίοις ἐν Χριστῷ.
Translation: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ."

Philippians 4:7
Greek: Καὶ ἡ εἰρήνη τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡ ὑπερέχουσα πάντα νοῦν φρουρήσει τὰς καρδίας ὑμῶν καὶ τὰ νοήματα ὑμῶν ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ.
Translation: "And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus."

1 Corinthians 1:30
Greek: ἐξ αὐτοῦ δὲ ὑμεῖς ἐστε ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ, ὃς ἐγενήθη ἡμῖν σοφία ἀπὸ Θεοῦ, δικαιοσύνη τε καὶ ἁγιασμὸς καὶ ἀπολύτρωσις.
Translation: "And because of Him, you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God-and righteousness, sanctification, and redemption."

These examples show how "ἐν Χριστῷ" describes the believer's identity, blessings, and relationship within the sphere of Christ.

I don't bother listening to his podcasts.

J.

 

[amigo de christo]

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Forgiveness of sins is correct. @marks can you help out here please.

The alteration of "forgiveness of sins" to "freedom of sins" in Acts 26:18 does indeed represent a significant shift in doctrine. The Greek text, as preserved in the Textus Receptus, reads: "ἀνοῖξαι ὀφθαλμοὺς αὐτῶν, τοῦ ἐπιστρέψαι ἀπὸ σκότους εἰς φῶς, καὶ τῆς ἐξουσίας τοῦ Σατανᾶ ἐπὶ τὸν Θεόν, τοῦ λαβεῖν αὐτοὺς ἄφεσιν ἁμαρτιῶν καὶ κλῆρον ἐν τοῖς ἡγιασμένοις πίστει τῇ εἰς ἐμέ."

Key phrase: "ἄφεσιν ἁμαρτιῶν"

The word ἄφεσιν (aphesin) is consistently translated as "forgiveness" or "remission." It derives from ἀφίημι (aphiēmi), meaning to send away, release, or forgive.

ἁμαρτιῶν (hamartiōn) translates as "of sins."

No credible Greek lexicon or source would interpret ἄφεσιν as "freedom" in this context.

Theologically, "freedom from sins" could imply an ontological or existential release from sin's power or influence, which differs significantly from the judicial or relational restoration implied by "forgiveness of sins."

To change "forgiveness" to "freedom" introduces doctrinal confusion by suggesting a reorientation of the text's focus-from divine pardon to personal emancipation. This reinterpretation from @Episkopos would need to be evaluated critically for textual accuracy and theological consistency.
Total Occurrences: 17
ἀφέσει aphései (2) N-DSF
the remission Luk_1:77
liberty Luk_4:18
ἄφεσιν áphesin (12) N-ASF
deliverance Luk_4:18
forgiveness Act_5:31, Act_26:18, Eph_1:7, Col_1:14
never forgiveness Mar_3:29, w/G2756 G1519 G165
remission Mat_26:28, Mar_1:4, Luk_24:47, Act_10:43
the remission Luk_3:3, Act_2:38
ἄφεσις áphesis (3) N-NSF
the forgiveness Act_13:38
remission Heb_9:22, Heb_10:18
English to Strong’s
deliverance G629, G859
forgiveness G859
liberty G425, G630, G859, G1657, G1658, G1849, G2010
remission G859, G3929

Syntax and Morphology
The structure of the sentence is a series of purpose clauses introduced by genitive articles (τοῦ). These clauses describe the divine objectives of Paul's commission:

To open their eyes.
To turn them from darkness to light and from Satan to God.
To enable them to receive forgiveness and inheritance.
The central phrase ἄφεσιν ἁμαρτιῶν is syntactically tied to λαβεῖν, emphasizing the reception of divine pardon as a gift.

The accusative case for ἄφεσιν (direct object) and the genitive plural ἁμαρτιῶν (possessive or descriptive) reinforces the meaning as "forgiveness of sins."

Implications of "Forgiveness" vs. "Freedom"
The Greek term ἄφεσιν does not support the translation "freedom" in this context. While ἄφεσις can denote release or liberation in certain contexts (e.g., debt remission), its consistent biblical usage in soteriological contexts refers to forgiveness or pardon granted by God.

Any translation as "freedom of sins" would require textual evidence or a broader contextual basis, which is absent here.

Don't let him confuse you with the preposition 'eis'; 'in Christ' and 'eis Christ' are used synonymously.

Romans 8:1
Greek: Οὐδὲν ἄρα νῦν κατάκριμα τοῖς ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ.
Translation: "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."

2 Corinthians 5:17
Greek: ὥστε εἴ τις ἐν Χριστῷ, καινὴ κτίσις· τὰ ἀρχαῖα παρῆλθεν, ἰδοὺ γέγονεν καινά.
Translation: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

Ephesians 1:3
Greek: Εὐλογητὸς ὁ Θεὸς καὶ Πατὴρ τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὁ εὐλογήσας ἡμᾶς ἐν πάσῃ εὐλογίᾳ πνευματικῇ ἐν τοῖς ἐπουρανίοις ἐν Χριστῷ.
Translation: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ."

Philippians 4:7
Greek: Καὶ ἡ εἰρήνη τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡ ὑπερέχουσα πάντα νοῦν φρουρήσει τὰς καρδίας ὑμῶν καὶ τὰ νοήματα ὑμῶν ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ.
Translation: "And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus."

1 Corinthians 1:30
Greek: ἐξ αὐτοῦ δὲ ὑμεῖς ἐστε ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ, ὃς ἐγενήθη ἡμῖν σοφία ἀπὸ Θεοῦ, δικαιοσύνη τε καὶ ἁγιασμὸς καὶ ἀπολύτρωσις.
Translation: "And because of Him, you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God-and righteousness, sanctification, and redemption."

These examples show how "ἐν Χριστῷ" describes the believer's identity, blessings, and relationship within the sphere of Christ.

I don't bother listening to his podcasts.

J.

There is no need to listen to them . In the beginning when i first seen epi
I learned real quickly That man is in dire trouble . for he preaches not as did CHRIST or the apostels
HE will not accept the fact one must EVEN FIRST BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . that aint what the apostels
did . sure he can teach truths at times , But what good are truths and truths twisted
IF ONE HAS NOT FAITH , BELIEVES NOT JESUS is the CHRIST . IF one implies that one does NOT have TO first beleive
THEN ALL they teach cometh not of faith , even if it has truths wihin it . I seen this day one in epi .
I did all i could to try and get him to even say ONE MUSTFIRST BELIEVE IN CHRIST JESUS
and all he has ever done is call that RELIGIOUS EGO DRIBBLE . That is a real bad sign my friend . THAT IS NOT teh gospel
getting preached by epi .

 

[Johann]

There is no need to listen to them . In the beginning when i first seen epi
I learned real quickly That man is in dire trouble . for he preaches not as did CHRIST or the apostels
HE will not accept the fact one must EVEN FIRST BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . that aint what the apostels
did . sure he can teach truths at times , But what good are truths and truths twisted
IF ONE HAS NOT FAITH , BELIEVES NOT JESUS is the CHRIST . IF one implies that one does NOT have TO first beleive
THEN ALL they teach cometh not of faith , even if it has truths wihin it . I seen this day one in epi .
I did all i could to try and get him to even say ONE MUSTFIRST BELIEVE IN CHRIST JESUS
and all he has ever done is call that RELIGIOUS EGO DRIBBLE . That is a real bad sign my friend . THAT IS NOT teh gospel
getting preached by epi .

A real BAD sign indeed brother.

keep the faith!

J.

 

[Ritajanice]

There is no need to listen to them . In the beginning when i first seen epi
I learned real quickly That man is in dire trouble . for he preaches not as did CHRIST or the apostels
HE will not accept the fact one must EVEN FIRST BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . that aint what the apostels
did . sure he can teach truths at times , But what good are truths and truths twisted
IF ONE HAS NOT FAITH , BELIEVES NOT JESUS is the CHRIST . IF one implies that one does NOT have TO first beleive
THEN ALL they teach cometh not of faith , even if it has truths wihin it . I seen this day one in epi .
I did all i could to try and get him to even say ONE MUSTFIRST BELIEVE IN CHRIST JESUS
and all he has ever done is call that RELIGIOUS EGO DRIBBLE . That is a real bad sign my friend . THAT IS NOT teh gospel
getting preached by epi .

He’s no different to you, do you actually think you preach the whole truth...I can assure you, that you don’t, no more than I do.,you’re searching the heart of God, seeking him out like me also..I can assure you like me, you have a far way to go..,your stuck imo, repeating the same old bashing Bible religion to members, time and time again that’s all you do.

You are a Bible thumper who thinks he’s superior and got it all worked out...while judging and condemning the world..with your religious talk. Imo..

 

[Ritajanice]

There is no need to listen to them . In the beginning when i first seen epi
I learned real quickly That man is in dire trouble . for he preaches not as did CHRIST or the apostels
HE will not accept the fact one must EVEN FIRST BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . that aint what the apostels
did . sure he can teach truths at times , But what good are truths and truths twisted
IF ONE HAS NOT FAITH , BELIEVES NOT JESUS is the CHRIST . IF one implies that one does NOT have TO first beleive
THEN ALL they teach cometh not of faith , even if it has truths wihin it . I seen this day one in epi .
I did all i could to try and get him to even say ONE MUSTFIRST BELIEVE IN CHRIST JESUS
and all he has ever done is call that RELIGIOUS EGO DRIBBLE . That is a real bad sign my friend . THAT IS NOT teh gospel
getting preached by epi .

Here you go again, you religious hypocrite. Bible thumper.

 

[Ritajanice]

Romans 6:18-23

King James Version

​

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.