What is the purpose of infant baptism?

[BreadOfLife]

Not true.
That is YOUR long standing error.

Those Caveats APPLY to those “WITH” the Lord God….WHO SHALL Be SAVED….
“IF” they continue “WITH” the Lord God.

Not true.
That is YOUR long standing error.

The Conver-ed…ARE Saved…
ARE “WItH-IN” the Lord God, and He “WITH-IN” that man.

The Bible disagrees with you . . .
(Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1 Cor. 10:12, 1 Tim. 4:1, 1 Tim. 4:16, 2 Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6, Heb. 3:12-14, Heb. 6:4-6, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Pet. 2:20-21, 2 Pet. 3:17, 1 John 2:24, 1 John 5:13, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19)

These verses explicitly warn us that converted, born-again people e can LOSE their security by their OWN doing.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Suspicion revealed…

Thanks for openly revealing your ignorance regarding the WHOLE of “A” man and your ignorance of Gods Offering to Transform the WHOLE of “A” natural man into “A” spiritual man.

And precisely WHY conversations WITH YOU…are a WOT.

If you simply stuck to the topic instead of endlessly yammering on with your personal life philosophies – you MIGHT be interesting enough to listen to.

But you don’t, so you’re NOT . . .

 

[Truther]

Pay attention, sparky –
I said there is no such thing as RE-Baptism – IN SHRIST.

They were Baptized with the Baptism of John - THEN they were Baptized in the Baptism of Christ.

Learn how to read . . .

I did read what you said. Re-baptism is in the name of Jesus Christ. It does not matter how you were baptized prior to that. Especially Catholics.

 

[Truther]

No - YOU’RE stuck on personal names because you don’t understand the idiom, “In the name of”.

It’s that simple . . .

So you are saying that you never use your personal name but only your title son? Well son? Is that correct?

 

[BreadOfLife]

You are making exceptions.
God is Revealing Prophecy.

John 3:
[13] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Glory to God,
Taken

And as usual, you post an irrelevant verse because you lost the argument.

God CAN and DOES make exceptions, as I have amply shown . . .

 

[Truther]

Catholics must make horrible bankers because they use the titles of the individual instead of the name on a check. They are also horrible at math because they believe that one plus one plus one equals one. They would make horrible workers for Elon Musk. Trying to send up rockets.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Trinitarians are the only people I’ve ever known that write their titles “son” on their checks instead of signing their name. Banks have to make special accommodations for them.
It’s a form of DEI that is taking over the world.
The gays call themselves he him her they, etc. and the Trinitarians called themselves “son” instead of using their name on checks.
Even their sons called their parents, son… Lol

Pagans and cultists like yourself are the only people I've ever known who pervert the nature of God . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

So you are saying that you never use your personal name but only your title son? Well son? Is that correct?

Nope – I’m saying that YOU don’t seem to be able to grasp a simple idiom.

Here’s a question for you, sparky: “Stop, in the name of the law!!”
What is the “law’s” personal name??
OR, are you intelligent enough too understand that it simply means “as per the law”???

As per Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38) . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

YOUR EXPRESS DILEMMA…
IS That YOU believe, attempt and do desperately try to engage IN a SPIRITUAL Conversation, USING your sorely Limited Carnal MIND.

It is your repetitive continuous Fail…

Rom 8:
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

1 Cor 15:
[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Gal 2:
[20] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Hebrews 10:26-27
“If we sin deliberately AFTER receiving KNOWLEDGE of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.”

This is a clear warning that falling away from God will result in the loss of our salvation. The Greek ford for “knowledge” used here is NOT the usual word (oida). This is talking about a full, experiential, personal knowledge (epignosis) - not unlike a marriage. This verse is about CHRISTIANS who had an EPIGNOSIS of Christ and who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

2 Peter 2:20-22
For if they, having escaped the defilements of the world through the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first.
For it would have been better for them not to have KNOWN the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment handed down to them.

Here, Peter illustrates that those who had a full, experiential, personal knowledge (epignosis) of Christ – CHRISTIANS – who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I did read what you said. Re-baptism is in the name of Jesus Christ. It does not matter how you were baptized prior to that. Especially Catholics.

Time for an English Lesson - AND a Bible Lesson . . .

The prefix "Re" implies that something is being repeated.

Acts 19:1-7
It happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus, and found some disciples. He said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said to him, “No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.” And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” And they said, “Into John’s baptism.

Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

They were Baptized ONCE in the name of (per) the Lord Jesus and received the Holy Spirit.

This was NOT a “repeat” of John’s Baptism.
There ends the Lesson, son . .

 

[Taken]

The Bible disagrees with you . . .
(Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1 Cor. 10:12, 1 Tim. 4:1, 1 Tim. 4:16, 2 Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6, Heb. 3:12-14, Heb. 6:4-6, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Pet. 2:20-21, 2 Pet. 3:17, 1 John 2:24, 1 John 5:13, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19)

These verses explicitly warn us that converted, born-again people e can LOSE their security by their OWN doing.

Still regardless of how many times you are told, show….you still do NOT Comprehend…

Non-Believers, at the time of their bodily death…..SHALL LOSE THEIR SALVATION.

Believers, at the time of their bodily death…
SHALL RECEIVE THEIR SALVATION.

Converted Believers…(alive in their Body, YET CRUCIFIED BODILY WITH CHRIST JESUS)….
HAVE RECEIVED THEIR SALVATION..

It matters NOT when an individual RECEIVES their SALVATION….BUT ONCE RECEIVED…it is For-Ever.

The TREE OF LIFE was Offered to Adam and Eve…It was Already theirs to TAKE, RECEIVE, POSSESS… They Didn’t choose to take from that Tree……..Duh…they LOST the benefit of eating from that tree.

SALVATION is similar. Jesus OFFERED ALL of manKIND SALVATION….
It is ALREADY theirs to TAKE, RECEIVE, POSSESS…

Duh….If an individual doesn’t TAKE Jesus’ Offering….THEY LOSE IT…and the IT IS SALVATION.

You erroneously teach, preach a MAN who has, Taken, Has, Possess his SALVATION…can “THEREAFTER” Lose his Salvation, which is patently FALSE.

A man who HAS Accepted, Taken the Lords Gift of Salvation…
DUH…that mans Salvation is KEPT UNTO THAT MAN FOREVER….BY the POWER of God WITH-IN that man.

You spend too much time repeating nonsense of men, instead of Reading and Studying Gods Word…

IN- Christ…ring a bell?
Christ - IN a man…ring a bell?
No man can pluck another out of the Lords hand…out of Gods hand…ring a bell?
Greater is he that is “IN” you than he that is in the world…..ring a bell?

Really you think you can RECEIVE Gods Gift of Salvation and you have the power to throw it away? Pfff.

Really you think the Lord God, is NOT ALL KNOWING…and is GIVING HIS GIFT OF SALVATION to ANY MAN WHO at some point in his life would STOP Believing?

You should pray for Spiritual Understanding regarding Spiritual matters….because your Carnal Mindedness….and your reliance on other mens Carnal Mindedness is A corruption you blindly repeat over and over.

 

[Taken]

If you simply stuck to the topic instead of endlessly yammering on with your personal life philosophies – you MIGHT be interesting enough to listen to.

But you don’t, so you’re NOT . . .

False claims do not make your position correct.

A study of Scripture itself reveals The Lord God with numerous Titles….which obviously is beyond your comprehension to understand…Particular Titles reveal HIS authority to accomplish a particular TASK, SERVICE.

Sometimes JESUS…is Gods Word, the teacher, the Rabbi, the High Priest, the Son of God, the Wisdom of God, the Seed of God, the Savior, the Father, the Master, God…etc. dependent in context of his identity by title.

I get, you do not get it…

 

[Marymog]

Rom 8:
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain.

 

[Marymog]

I'm always wrong Mary.

Not always. But I have given evidence of when you are wrong.

 

[Taken]

And as usual, you post an irrelevant verse because you lost the argument.

God CAN and DOES make exceptions, as I have amply shown . . .

You pretending the Scripture is obsolete is ludicrous….
Body’s of men come from and return to the earth…

Souls do not come out from the earth.
Souls return to God IN Heaven or are SENT to Hell…they don’t roam about the earth outside of their body…nor remain in dead body’s.

Born again spirits return to God in Heaven who gave that spirit LIFE.

Natural spirits, never born again, die with a deceased body.

No exceptions as you falsely teach…
No BODY has gone UP to Heaven, BUT the Body that came down from Heaven…JESUS.

IF ELIJAH’s BODY came down from Heaven”..
So also could it RETURN to Heaven.

Your FALSE preaching regarding MARY…nothing what so ever reveals her body was ever IN Heaven.

 

[Marymog]

Read your number 3. First you ask a question...
Then you answer it yourself
AND
tell me I'm wrong.

Because you were wrong on #3:

Merriam Webster dictionary (common definition of words) Protestant: a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope (which you do)....

 

[Marymog]

What I don't understand is why you've changed so much.

I haven't. I have always challenged false information on this forum....no matter who posted it.

 

[Taken]

Hebrews 10:26-27
“If we sin deliberately AFTER receiving KNOWLEDGE of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.”

This is a clear warning that falling away from God will result in the loss of our salvation. The Greek ford for “knowledge” used here is NOT the usual word (oida). This is talking about a full, experiential, personal knowledge (epignosis) - not unlike a marriage. This verse is about CHRISTIANS who had an EPIGNOSIS of Christ and who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

2 Peter 2:20-22
For if they, having escaped the defilements of the world through the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first.
For it would have been better for them not to have KNOWN the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment handed down to them.

Here, Peter illustrates that those who had a full, experiential, personal knowledge (epignosis) of Christ – CHRISTIANS – who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

YAWN….your old worn out nonsense…

KNOWLEDGE of the TRUTH…
IS NOT a man becoming CONVERTED!!

Good Grief…

If you KNOW you are going to get a CAKE for your birthday….does that mean you already received it? Nonsense.



Lots of people KNOW THE TRUTH….but reject Believing the TRUTH…because Like you…they fail to Understand the TRUTH.

And again why it is a WOT to converse with you…the same as God tired of stubborn stiffnecked men.

 

[Taken]

For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain.

Yep, and why your and BOL’s jibber jabber Carnal mindedness is of no interest to me regarding a topic of Spiritual things.

 

[GodsGrace]

Because you were wrong on #3:

Merriam Webster dictionary (common definition of words) Protestant: a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope (which you do)....

My dear Mary....
You should watch the news more.

MANY BISHOPS deny the authority of THIS POPE.....
I NEVER argued the authority of any other Pope...although some others deserved not having any.

See. It's IMPOSSIBLE to speak to you.
Rather dangerous.