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TLHKAJ

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Can't Jesus forgive Trump just like He did you? So Trump is a politician now where all hs dirty laundry got aired. You are not a Politician so your dirty laundry didnt get aired. All women have a past, so what. Trump has a past too. I know!
Not without his repentance, confessing his sins, asking God through Jesus Christ for forgiveness of those sins, and accepting Jesus Christ as his Savior AND Lord. Nope! This is the travesty of the whole Trumper movement, that professing Christians have traded the true Gospel for a false gospel that lets special people enter in another way and requires no confession of sins, and no asking forgiveness.
 

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So are you saying that the President of the US will only serve those who are considered to be nice decent people and anybody who is not considered to be a nice decent citizen such as drag queens, pro abortionists, gay or trans has no right to be seved by the president in office? Sounds very divisive to me.
And it's not only those people groups, but he wants to go after people who testified things they knew about him in court, as well as the "never-Trumpers" and any who oppose him.
 
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Okay, I will drop out.
Sister, don't let those who don't tolerate truth silence you. Those who see the truth are a minority ..... your insights and voice is important.
 
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It's okay, I only post what I see coming up on my news media but perhaps it's 'fake news'. I can only say it the way I see it.
I know someone who's been in Europe and in the US and they say our media is way more controlled and biased in the US than in Europe. Just saying....

Think about is, sister. The United States bought and paid for wars and murders, blew up the Nord Stream pipelines for greed. Do you think for one moment that the US government cares for the Ukrainians? No way! This is just a front they use to funnel millions and millions of taxpayer money to their pockets. The US bought and paid for Nazi scientists like Mengele and many others, and brought them here to head up the CIA's MK Ultra program. There's nothing good about this place, except the true people of God who live here and there. Judgment is coming because people have rejected Jesus Christ in favor of a man. They don't even see it. It's not about "left and right" ..... it's about Jesus Christ. NONE of them are good. They have divided this nation in every which way ....and the people have forgotten God.

Psalm 9:17
[17]The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
 

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PROOF:

May 30, 2020, 1:45 PM EDT / Updated May 30, 2020, 6:13 PM EDT
By Lauren Egan and Monica Alba
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump announced Saturday that the military police were ready to deploy to Minneapolis amid ongoing protests in the aftermath of George Floyd's death.
"We have our military ready, willing and able, if they ever want to call our military. We can have troops on the ground very quickly," Trump said as he left the White House Saturday afternoon on his way to Florida for the second attempt at the SpaceX launch. "They're using their National Guard right now, as you know."

"They've got to be tough, they've got to be strong, they've got to be respected," Trump said, speaking of Minnesota government officials, adding that there were protesters that needed to be "taught" that they "can't do this."
The move would take service members from around the country and prepare them to deploy to Minneapolis if the governor elects to use those resources.
Active-duty forces are normally prohibited from taking part in domestic law enforcement, but the Insurrection Act of 1807 allows for a state legislature or governor to request assistance in the event of civil unrest.


Jonathan Rath Hoffman, assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, said in a statement that the "Secretary of Defense and the Chairman have personally spoken with Governor Walz twice in the last 24-hours and expressed the department’s readiness to provide support to local and state authorities as requested."


YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR FACT CHECKERS CAN GO?

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What Trump is truly saying is that he wants people who do not vote because of their religious possition that they do not ! and this is what he is saying to them ! Get out and Vote this one time in your life ! for crying out loud ! because if Trump can win, then you lot ? the christians who do not vote ! will never have to vote again in fact !

Trump is talking to this Mob, who do not vote, because of their christian view position on voting ! as some denominations do not vote !

So if Trump can win the election, then they who do not vote, because of such religious domination conviction ? will never have to vote again ! for Trump will put things back on track, regarding getting rid of what Socialism is undermining the USA like a Whore does !

Trump will expose the Whore that Socialism truly is ! and bring back what was once the USA ! Real freedoms that once did have class and virtue ! that any up standing person truly can respect ?

Trump on day one will be a dictator in regards just as Joe Biden did on day one ! as Biden tossed out all that Trump had signed in office in fact !
So Trump will do just the same on day one as Biden did in fact !

It was Joe Biden who acted as a dictator ! as he tossed out all that Trump had signed that day ? so the direction, the path was changed 180 deg when Biden got into Power in fact.

So will Trump do a 180 deg turn about on day one and lead the USA out of the enslavement of Socialism and expose it all for what such has truly been doing ! for the Democrate Socialist Party is just as Nazi Germany was in fact ! different tho in it's nature of playing the Game, but with the same ends are on the cards as the Nazi's peddled in fact ! the same old tactics are used against the people and they who call them out on their cunning lies and Deceptions ! Satanist always work to undermine everyone to keep all under foot !
Act 28:26
Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
Act 28:27
For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

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President Trump praised the deployment of the National Guard in Minneapolis, claiming that the city's Democratic mayor bungled the handling of the protests previously.
"The National Guard has been released in Minneapolis to do the job that the Democrat Mayor couldn’t do," he tweeted in part. "No games!"

The National Guard has been released in Minneapolis to do the job that the Democrat Mayor couldn’t do. Should have been used 2 days ago & there would not have been damage & Police Headquarters would not have been taken over & ruined. Great job by the National Guard. No games!
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I know it wasn't that long ago but with the way time is moving today it feels like a decade. But it was only 4 years ago.
So much has changed. Covid did more damage than a lot of people realize. Not just the virus, the entire experience of 2020.
I became a member here in October of 2020. I had just spent the last 120 days and nights watching live videos of the protests going on all over the country. Chants of ACAB (All Cops Are B*stards) , F The Police... Molotov cocktails, the burning, the looting, people being attacked on restaurant sidewalks cafes if they didn't raise their right fist. If you owned a flag you were target.
Seattle, Portland, LA, Nashville, Minneapolis, DC. They were everywhere. Antifa which had infiltrated the Black lives matter protests, hijacked and infiltrated the movement for their own purpose. And that purpose was to put fear into people. Don't matter which flag your flyin, if your not flying the flag their flying, your a target. Ukraine, Palestine, The Rainbow Flag and on and on..

It made me sick and fascinated at the same time. How could people go off the deep end like that? The mayhem, and chaos, destruction, utter lawlessness.
I was so glued to the livestreams, sometimes I didn't eat for days. I slept a couple hours here and there. I was waiting...
I was waiting to see somebody get control of this thing. How is this even being allowed. And I watched and I waited and I heard the excuses from the politions and the governors and mayors, saying, free speech, free speech.

At the same time covid came on the scene and you could see the division as sure as it was in black and white.
Protests good, Rally's bad. Mom and Pop shops bad, Walmart and Target good. Masks/no masks.
More chaos, more divisions. Now we have Jews and Muslims fighting in our colleges.

This slow boil is unsettling.

But those live videos are what brought me here to seek shelter from the storm.
I was looking for something good. Something that made sense to me.
And you all took me in. I was able to see what was happening from a spiritual view. Watching the craftiness and subtelty of the devil himself.
Half the time I was here, half the time watching the world go crazy. And Dangerous. Elderly people living in assisted living facilities were subjected to people with covid coming into their living spaces. All the time the hospitals were empty and the nurses dancing in the aisles.
And the mandates, 6 foot distancing, pandemic of the unvaccinated.
We took a HIT. A big hit. Everything we believed about justice, the rule of law, the constitution, Hippaa violations requiring you to show Vax verification. Not able to fly, go to restaurants, close your businesses.
Then there was the free renters. No help to the home owner, but the renters got a free ride. A lot of owners had to sell their property or foreclose because they couldn't afford the mortgage without the rent.
What an absolute crazy year 2020 was... and still is, it hasn't ended folks, it just keeps changing identities.
Like scenes in a movie we go from one picture to the next, and the last gets forgotten because there are too many new things almost every hour of every day.
This is some kind of psychological experiment they are doing on the world. It's not just here, look at the Olympic Ceremonies. I mean C'Mon man.
I could go on all night all the crap they been pulling over our eyes for the last 4 years alone.
Do your research. Do your OWN research.
Because otherwise they got you fooled.

Be vigilant.
What an amazing time to be alive.
And sometimes it really really sux.
But I know it's God's plan. And he promised great delusions, and even the elect could be persuaded.
Sometimes they show us things that aren't there. Sometimes they take pictures from the past and apply them to things that happened today. They can do all kinds of magic with technology today. But propaganda, thats the one thats killing us the most.
It is causing us to doubt ourselves, our country, our world.
If you are a good person then that must mean your evil. If you are an evil person then that must mean your misunderstood.
And just because you have certain genetialia doesn't make it so, we will convince you otherwise.
Eventually those children who are damaging their bodies today will have very damaged minds and spirits in the future.
They will never be able to bare children or to concieve. His tosterone is now her estrogen, and vice versa. Don't worry about the drugs, Medicaid will pay for it. You want surgery? Insurance will cover it.
And we're paying for it. And Medicaid and SS are going bankrupt. I wonder why?

I'm just wondering how much longer this movie goes on for. And if it comes here, then where will I go to find shelter?
We can't let them get to us. But we bring it in on our shoes, and it's in our hair, and on our clothes, and we say, Did you see this? Did you hear that?
We bring it in ourselves. We aught to check ourselves at the altar and at the door more carefully.
I don't know, you think it might get too boring if we never had anything to debate or argue?
Is it a good thing? Keeps you digging deeper into your soul, into your studies, into his word.
Otherwise we get complacent. Iron sharpens iron.

Have to be careful how we use those swords that we don't cut each other too badly untl it becomes unrepairable.

I love being here with my family.
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Not without his repentance, confessing his sins, asking God through Jesus Christ for forgiveness of those sins, and accepting Jesus Christ as his Savior AND Lord. Nope! This is the travesty of the whole Trumper movement, that professing Christians have traded the true Gospel for a false gospel that lets special people enter in another way and requires no confession of sins, and no asking forgiveness.
Bidens Catholic.

He's suppose to confess his repeated sinning often. While Scripture tells us what that sinning actually says about Joe.

God knows if Donald's name is in the Lamb's Book of Eternal Life.

You don't.
 

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His cult following wants this apparently. Not me!! But they will chime in and explain this away as if it's something good.....sigh....
That's three.

TDS people slander Trump, attempt to insult Christian Republicans claiming we don't face the truth about him. And all the while they foster the lies of the Left wing Demoncratic party to do so.

And when it is that obvious, their efforts to ridicule Christian Republicans using that deplorable tactic doesn't make us look bad.

Also,when they all sound alike in their vitriol other things become obvious too. :pray: :watching and waiting:
 

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That's three.

TDS people slander Trump, attempt to insult Christian Republicans claiming we don't face the truth about him. And all the while they foster the lies of the Left wing Demoncratic party to do so.

And when it is that obvious, their efforts to ridicule Christian Republicans using that deplorable tactic doesn't make us look bad.

Also,when they all sound alike in their vitriol other things become obvious too. :pray: :watching and waiting:
But how can we undo what's already been done?
They have both sides absolutely convinced the other side is wrong.
They will not change our thinking just as strongly as we aren't going to change theirs.
This weaponized media is even more dangerous than weaponizing the justice system.
Everything in the Justice system needs documentation. Everything in the media is just word salad.

The only way to dissolve the differences is to focus on the foundation of which we are growing.
The worlds foundation is shaking, like earthquakes everywhere. Nothing is solid, shifting sands, shifting motives, shifting narratives.
Makes you feel like there's some kind of flood coming or something.

Neither side is going to convince the other side. Each will have to come to the truth in their own way.
I'm open for speculation. I don't take the media's word for it. But even it's deeper than just the media. The intelligence agencies are in on this mind bending propaganda show where all in right now.
And they have ways to make things happen that make you believe the narrative their spinning.
Right now the spinning is on the left. During George Bush's administration, the right was doing the spinning with weapons of mass destruction, and Hanging Hussein on a noose on public tell-a - vision. The 9/11 False Flag. (doesn't mean it didn't happen folks, just means the story you been told isn't the truthful story, therefore it is a false flag, a false narrative) .

The only thing that brings the truth is transperancy and documentation, but even these can be twisted and altered or even erased.
I don't think the left really believe as strongly as the right in conspiracies. Not theories, but actual conspiracies.
The conspiracy to assasinate JFK. It's not a theory, it's a fact. Certain peopla and agencies both foreign and domestic planned and fulfilled the assasination. That is a conspiracy.
The only time a conspiracy is called a theory is when all the facts haven't been revealed as of yet and the guilty party tries to discredit any information getting out, or trying to give themselves plausible deniability.

It's almost a mental illness. It's definately hypnotic. And how do we know that we're not also being steered to believe the way we do?
Lean neither to the left nor to the right, for straight and narrow is the path that leads to life.

It's so frustrating though. I'm right that's all there is to it...lol

IDK,
I just hope we can all come through this on the other side and be able to give each other hugs and forgive one another.
Because I don't think we really know how deep this rabbit hole goes. And every single one of us can and is being experimented on.

Trust God. Keep the Faith.
If the world outside gets too crazy, visit Ziggy's Barista and have some coffee on the house and enjoy some tunes.
We're going to get through this. Some more beaten up than others, but we'll get through it.
Patience and tolerance to the church in this forum and my family.
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Check this out, I never heard it before..


I'm gonna post it in the Barista..
timing is everything...lol

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But how can we undo what's already been done?
They have both sides absolutely convinced the other side is wrong.
They will not change our thinking just as strongly as we aren't going to change theirs.
This weaponized media is even more dangerous than weaponizing the justice system.
Everything in the Justice system needs documentation. Everything in the media is just word salad.

The only way to dissolve the differences is to focus on the foundation of which we are growing.
The worlds foundation is shaking, like earthquakes everywhere. Nothing is solid, shifting sands, shifting motives, shifting narratives.
Makes you feel like there's some kind of flood coming or something.

Neither side is going to convince the other side. Each will have to come to the truth in their own way.
I'm open for speculation. I don't take the media's word for it. But even it's deeper than just the media. The intelligence agencies are in on this mind bending propaganda show where all in right now.
And they have ways to make things happen that make you believe the narrative their spinning.
Right now the spinning is on the left. During George Bush's administration, the right was doing the spinning with weapons of mass destruction, and Hanging Hussein on a noose on public tell-a - vision. The 9/11 False Flag. (doesn't mean it didn't happen folks, just means the story you been told isn't the truthful story, therefore it is a false flag, a false narrative) .

The only thing that brings the truth is transperancy and documentation, but even these can be twisted and altered or even erased.
I don't think the left really believe as strongly as the right in conspiracies. Not theories, but actual conspiracies.
The conspiracy to assasinate JFK. It's not a theory, it's a fact. Certain peopla and agencies both foreign and domestic planned and fulfilled the assasination. That is a conspiracy.
The only time a conspiracy is called a theory is when all the facts haven't been revealed as of yet and the guilty party tries to discredit any information getting out, or trying to give themselves plausible deniability.

It's almost a mental illness. It's definately hypnotic. And how do we know that we're not also being steered to believe the way we do?
Lean neither to the left nor to the right, for straight and narrow is the path that leads to life.

It's so frustrating though. I'm right that's all there is to it...lol

IDK,
I just hope we can all come through this on the other side and be able to give each other hugs and forgive one another.
Because I don't think we really know how deep this rabbit hole goes. And every single one of us can and is being experimented on.

Trust God. Keep the Faith.
If the world outside gets too crazy, visit Ziggy's Barista and have some coffee on the house and enjoy some tunes.
We're going to get through this. Some more beaten up than others, but we'll get through it.
Patience and tolerance to the church in this forum and my family.
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Hugs
It's one thing to lie about Trump. Those who hate him do so because they've been fed lies.

He's not perfect. Of course. However, given the present state after 4 years,he's far better than the options.
 

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It's just that you can not tell them that or they hate you
Nonsense.
To them, it's not that they choose those things in liberty- they believe we are all disobeying the commandments & are therefore, apostates.
Wrong.
Adventists are taught from childhood that they are God’s only true church on earth and that they are God’s remnant people. They are taught that they have the “truth” and all other Christians are wrong and are apostate. They have a very difficult time receiving anything from a “Sunday Keeper”, as they refer to Christians. They have been taught that someday those who worship on Sunday will persecute them, hunt them and even kill them. This doesn’t help."
It's actually going to be worse than that. As Jesus said, we will be betrayed by our own families and neighbors.
That's a lie.
And demonstrates in its publishing lack of knowledge regarding the U.S Constitution. As a start.

he believes in religious freedoms. that is not mixing church and state. Do you even know what that means? Or are you one of those people that thinks it's in the constitution that "Jefferson wrote?" lol so many people think that!!
All it means is to keep GOVERNMENT OUT of OUR FAITH.--- It does not mean to KEEP FAITH OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT. They are free to be Christians, SDA, whatever, BUT hey CAN NOT tell us HOW to worship.
SO the real Q is--- ARE YOU FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OR NOT?
Trump is. I am. ARE YOU?
The one thing I clearly remember from Trump is his promise to give the religious right, the evangelicals mainly, power. Why does the Christian right need power? To change laws obviously. In favor of who? And who decides what particular branch of the Christian right should have laws that favor them?
And before you start to denigrate and criticize Adventists for not understanding the Constitution and religious liberty, perhaps you had better do some research.
It's so easy isn't it too make grandiose wide reaching generalizations regarding a group of people and gain a following of those who are equally as ignorant of the truth as you. BTW. telling you the truth isn't hate. It's the opposite.
 

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It's one thing to lie about Trump. Those who hate him do so because they've been fed lies.

He's not perfect. Of course. However, given the present state after 4 years,he's far better than the options.
If it wasn't Trump it would be whoever is in opposition to their plans. It's not the average everyday people, we are all being fed hatefulness.
Just some swallow more than others, but you have to admit we have our own biases as well.
Badlands Media on Rumble has this program they call Hindsight 2020. I think this is this 6th or 7th show. They go over the days of the inauguration of Biden, to the George Floyyd mania, the riots, rally's and protests, then covid, the impeachments...
Every show I think they try to do either what happened that week or that month.
Sometimes it's hard for me to watch it now, after seeing it in real time in 2020. But now it seems surreal.
So for the next hour and a half I'll be watching.. Episode 10.. ok we're up to 10.
Sometimes we forget or didn't have a chance to see everything that was happening it was moving so fast.
But I believe that's the year the great divide , like a chasm was formed between the left and the right.
If we could go back and change it... but we can't, we just have to get through it..

Anywhoo..
I'll be here:
for the next hour and a half,.

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If it wasn't Trump it would be whoever is in opposition to their plans. It's not the average everyday people, we are all being fed hatefulness.
Just some swallow more than others, but you have to admit we have our own biases as well.
Badlands Media on Rumble has this program they call Hindsight 2020. I think this is this 6th or 7th show. They go over the days of the inauguration of Biden, to the George Floyyd mania, the riots, rally's and protests, then covid, the impeachments...
Every show I think they try to do either what happened that week or that month.
Sometimes it's hard for me to watch it now, after seeing it in real time in 2020. But now it seems surreal.
So for the next hour and a half I'll be watching.. Episode 10.. ok we're up to 10.
Sometimes we forget or didn't have a chance to see everything that was happening it was moving so fast.
But I believe that's the year the great divide , like a chasm was formed between the left and the right.
If we could go back and change it... but we can't, we just have to get through it..

Anywhoo..
I'll be here:
for the next hour and a half,.

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Good point.
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Network news stations saying same thing verbatim:


Remember the classic movie, Network? Once you've seen it I don't think TV will ever seem to be the same.


And who can forget, They Live?
Talk about a message film. From a guy who knows how media, and Hollywood, works.
 

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That's three.

TDS people slander Trump, attempt to insult Christian Republicans claiming we don't face the truth about him. And all the while they foster the lies of the Left wing Demoncratic party to do so.

And when it is that obvious, their efforts to ridicule Christian Republicans using that deplorable tactic doesn't make us look bad.

Also,when they all sound alike in their vitriol other things become obvious too. :pray: :watching and waiting:
What in the world is TDS? You've said this junk about me and other non-Trump worshipers before. You call truth "vitriol." And you assume a lot and it's all lies. You parrot what you hear all Trump worshipers say .... that if we don't fall for everything Trump says, we must be leftists, liberals, etc, etc, etc. which couldn't be farther from the truth. What's scary is that y'all believe his lies, and your own lies.. It's that kind of people who are prime to receive the mark of the beast and turn Christians in, thinking they do God a favor.
 
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They have both sides absolutely convinced the other side is wrong.
They will not change our thinking just as strongly as we aren't going to change theirs.
This weaponized media is even more dangerous than weaponizing the justice system.
Everything in the Justice system needs documentation. Everything in the media is just word salad.
Sister, Trump is not going to save America, and far from it. No political candidate is going to fix this nation because what we have is a spiritual problem. And those at the top are luciferian (satanists). They aren't our saviors. When people stop looking to man, and start looking to God, there's hope. But this nation is too far gone. We need to be seeking God because many will die when judgment comes.
 

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Sister, Trump is not going to save America, and far from it. No political candidate is going to fix this nation because what we have is a spiritual problem. And those at the top are luciferian (satanists). They aren't our saviors. When people stop looking to man, and start looking to God, there's hope. But this nation is too far gone. We need to be seeking God because many will die when judgment comes.
God sent Abraham and he faught 5 armies and saved Lot. God sent Moses and he faught Egypt and save a nation.
God sent Jonah and he saved Nineveh, God sent Jesus and he saved the world.
Neither one of us are in any position to say who God sends to save or destroy.
Saul/Paul wasn't very popular among the christians yet God sent him to the Gentiles.
I would assume that the Jews considered him a traitor and a liar. But to us he brought the knowledge of the truth.
So it depends on what perspective you see things from.
God is telling me to keep watching. And I am.
And the division is amazing.
But you have your opinons and I have mine, and I try to respect them but sometimes it gets downright insulting and hurtful on both sides.
We need to quit that.
God puts whoever he feels best for the job in places of authority and who will do his will any alloted time needed.
I believe Trump is in the position he is in whether we agree or disagree doesn't really matter because it's for God's purpose and not our own.
Only time will tell. If Trump at some point in the future becomes a dictator and is corronatted King of the USA and begins to remove peoples freedoms and constitutional rights, and runs the country to the ground, and kills off his political opponants,
then I will confess that perhaps the left was right and the right was wrong.
But until that time, I believe God is using Donald Trump, regardless how repulsive he may be to some, that he is using him for whatever purpose God requires.
Your attacking him won't change God's plans whether for good or evil.
Our defending the man won't change God's plans for good or evil.
We can take sides all day long and it won't make one iota difference to God's plan.

All I can say is... Trust the plan.

And Sister, I love you. And we're still going to be here long after all this BS has passed.
Just don't let hatred consume you. Caution yes, question, yes, hatred.. no.
We're going to get through this.
Have faith.
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