Woke Olympics panics...they are now scrubbing all videos of the blasphemy

[Debp]

The Woke Olympics didn't expect such backlash about the drag queen Last Supper which offended not only Christians but also is getting backlash from non-Christians. Even atheists were offended!

They are scrubbing the videos from the Internet.

The following video has some good commentary. The Woke gay guy who created the blasphemy said he wanted everyone to feel inclusive.... everyone but Christians it seems.

 

[BlessedPeace]

There should be backlash. It was totally uncalled for. And,being it had nothing to do with the Olympics or the spirit of athletic competition, was obviously intended to inflame Christians. And by allusion,all people of faith.

 

[Rita]

I cannot get a news article to post over here, but I have just read an interview with the director of that ceremony and he explains that it’s not a depiction of the Last supper.
This is a quote after stating that The renaissance painting depicting Jesus last meal was not his inspiration. ‘ There Dionysus arriving at the table, why is he there? First and foremost because he is the god of celebration in Greek mythology and the tableau is called ‘ Festivity ‘ . He is also the god of wine, which is also one of the jewels of France and the father of Sequana , the goddess of the river Seine. The Ida was to depict a big pagan celebration , linked to the gods of Olympus , and thus the Olympics.’
So obviously that was his intention, but perhaps his mistake was in how he put it together with them at a long table ect.

 

[Wrangler]

obviously intended to inflame Christians.

I often rely on a thought experiment. Imagine if they did such a parody to some other demographic, such as Muhammad? Many in France would be killed by now. Arson would be commonplace. The Olympics, itself, might have to be cancelled. We all know this is true. So, why is it OK to do the parody of the Last Supper? One vid said demonic forces.

The simple answer is the Christians do not demand respect like the Muslims. Violence solves problems. Always has. Always will. Claims to the contrary, not withstanding. That humans EVER find a way to resolve conflict non-violently is a miracle we sadly abuse too often.

For those who are obtuse, no, I am not advocating violence. Isn't that a required statement now? Biden said a month ago its time to put his opponent in cross hairs but later claimed he did not mean it that way. Right! The IOC has apologized if they offended anyone, obtusely denying offense was their intent!

 

[Rita]

There should be backlash. It was totally uncalled for. And,being it had nothing to do with the Olympics or the spirit of athletic competition, was obviously intended to inflame Christians. And by allusion,all people of faith.

Obviously that was not their intention , if you read my post on what actually Lay behind that part of the ceremony it did have something to do with France and the Olympics. In another thread you accuse another member of not finding out the facts on things that are reported, yet that is exactly what you , the media and other have done here.
Obvious the director should have perhaps thought out how he portrayed what he did, but if his inspiration was taken from the Greek gods and Olympus - then your accusation is wrong.

 

[Debp]

Obviously that was not their intention , if you read my post on what actually Lay behind that part of the ceremony it did have something to do with France and the Olympics. In another thread you accuse another member of not finding out the facts on things that are reported, yet that is exactly what you , the media and other have done here.
Obvious the director should have perhaps thought out how he portrayed what he did, but if his inspiration was taken from the Greek gods and Olympus - then your accusation is wrong.

Well, the whole world (except for you and maybe a few others) all think it was a mockery of the Last Supper.

 

[Rita]

Well, the whole world (except for you and maybe a few others) all think it was a mockery of the Last Supper.

Yes, because they didn’t bother to talk to the person who put it together. They jumped to conclusions. Also , if you read my post properly, you will see that I agreed that he didn’t think the presentation through. The Thread is about intent - which you and others have jumped in on and weighed up.
On this particular thing you and others are clearly wrong with that judgment.
Is it so difficult to actually admit that, you, and a lot of other people reacted to something without finding out the facts.

 

[Debp]

Yes, because they didn’t bother to talk to the person who put it together. They jumped to conclusions. Also , if you read my post properly, you will see that I agreed that he didn’t think the presentation through. The Thread is about intent - which you and others have jumped in on and weighed up.
On this particular thing you and others are clearly wrong with that judgment.
Is it so difficult to actually admit that, you, and a lot of other people reacted to something without finding out the facts.

The Olympics are scrubbing the videos off of the Internet....that says something.

 

[Rita]

The Olympics are scrubbing the videos off of the Internet....that says something.

That doesn’t confirm anything debp we live in a society where anything that takes offence is taken down, regardless of whether the intent was there in the first place.
Why is it so difficult for a group of Christian’s to break something down and re-examine , and that works both ways- the thread on trumps speech for an example. It was actually helpful to have the info relayed about who he was talking to , it’s help me evaluate. Often as not that’s what we should be doing, informing one another.
Did you read the quote or automatically view my post as an attack on the conclusion you and others reached. You know if all of us actually did some investigating instead of just believing something, and then if we listened we perhaps would learn something useful ( and I speak for myself as much as anyone else ) perhaps this place would be less negative and more constructive. )

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, because they didn’t bother to talk to the person who put it together.

Do you want me to believe the elite on the Olympic committee or my lying eyes?

I notice they never accidentally make it seem they are mocking Islam. Funny that.

Watched a vid that included the Olympic charter. It specifically states they are not aiming to make political type statements. That abomination was obviously a political statement and their defense was DEI, a political issue.

 

[Wrangler]

Why is it so difficult for a group of Christian’s to break something down and re-examine , and that works both ways- the thread on trumps speech for an example.

Philosophy. Some, like you, embrace deconstruction. Others, like @Debp and me, reject deconstruction. IF you are willing to first admit there is something morally wrong about the opening ceremony skit, the conversation will be less difficult.

I don't mind analyzing and re-examining all the ways something is right or wrong. However, I prefer to start with that; it is right or wrong. Deconstructionists seem to lose sight of morality in their breaking things down. IMO, this philosophy is from the Adversary. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Wrangler]

The Olympics are scrubbing the videos off of the Internet....that says something.

Yes, it does. Tacit admission of wrong doing. Now, how will they atone and make it right?

 

[Rita]

Philosophy. Some, like you, embrace deconstruction. Others, like @Debp and me, reject deconstruction. IF you are willing to first admit there is something morally wrong about the opening ceremony skit, the conversation will be less difficult.

I don't mind analyzing and re-examining all the ways something is right or wrong. However, I prefer to start with that; it is right or wrong. Deconstructionists seem to lose sight of morality in their breaking things down. IMO, this philosophy is from the Adversary. Just my 2 cents

So everything that you or debp , or others post or interpret have to be true or right because of what you see. I never actually said there was nothing wrong with the skit - in fact I did say that the way it was put together was not thought out - in other words despite the intention, which has been explained, it was still not the right way to do it. For arguments sake, why did they chose to have drag queens depicting it unless to give another message, but that still doesn’t mean it’s a dig at the last supper. However why did they use the long table , which could be interpreted as such a connection- but it may well have been for another reason within The original intention- people often sat around long tables. !
It’s true that I would prefer context , and yes I am that kind of a person but only because it’s an informed approach. It is also true that others have a different approach to things, but isn’t that where we could learn from one another.
So often here we are told to get things in context when certain things are discussed and relayed, that is done through the endless critisms of the media ( which are completely justified ) but it seems it often works only one way. The amount of videos that are added to threads from you tube, Fox News ect in order to back up a negative about people or situations is often not in context or not checked as factual, but it’s claimed to be true.
I was not offended by the ceremony, but it doesn’t mean I liked it.

 

[Episkopos]

Yes, it does. Tacit admission of wrong doing. Now, how will they atone and make it right?

The director of the show knew what he was doing. The advertising of it was..."La scène de la Cène sur la Seine." A play on words using words that all have the same sound. In French la "Cène" means the table of the Lord (supper). In Spanish the word for supper is "cena". The French don't use that word anymore for supper (souper) leaving the word Cène exclusively for either the last supper (Dernière Cène) or communion (la sainte Cène).

In the French journal Le Soir is an article that reads

Scène de la Cène à Paris sur la Seine : saine ou obscène ?​

Sane or obscene? Again more like-sounding words. The article claims that a "fringe" (une frange) were offended by the display.

 

[Wrangler]

So everything that you or debp , or others post or interpret have to be true or right because of what you see.

Rita,

Your opening reply is an example of a Strawman argument. I like to start with the conclusion, X was right or wrong. Deconstructionism obliterates the concept by analyzing tangential matters never arriving at the moral conclusion. Sure, they can reach all kinds of other conclusions but the moral question tends to get side stepped OR presented as a mathematical function; anything but a simple right or wrong response.

Make A Blessed Day!

W

 

[Wrangler]

but that still doesn’t mean it’s a dig at the last supper.

I wonder what standard you'd embrace to conclude that it was a dig at the last supper.

 

[Wrangler]

You really are lost in irrelevant deconstructionist details, like supposed intention.

in other words despite the intention, which has been explained, it was still not the right way to do it.

unless to give another message

However why did they use the long table , which could be interpreted as such a connection

The original intention

It is also true that others have a different approach to things, but isn’t that where we could learn from one another.

Successful approaches that are different are the only ones where there is the potential to learn what works.

yes I am that kind of a person but only because it’s an informed approach.

Informed of deconstructionist irrelevancies, yes. Determining if something is morally right or wrong is not that hard, not as complicated as deconstructionists demand it to be.

 

[Rita]

Thank you for your thoughts on what I relayed It doesn’t really matter what I convey , or the meaning behind it ( which you have missed ) the one thing I have discovered as a member here is that unless you fit into someone else’s mould what you convey will always be picked to pieces and critised.

My post this morning was to convey information, that’s all, the motive was because I saw something being taken out of context and judged - to me that was not right. My intention was a good one.

 

[Wrangler]

I saw something being taken out of context and judged - to me that was not right.

Well, that is were you are incorrect. It was judged in context. The context was a sports event that is supposed to be, according to their own by-laws, non-political and despite claims of intention, it most certainly was political.

I suppose the claim "taken out of context" has become its own ruse to deflect in today's gaslighting society.

 

[Jericho]

The Olympics ceremony is filled with pagan\occult symbolism for anyone paying attention and has been for some time.

The Occult Symbolism Displayed at the 2012 Olympics Ceremony