Three rapture views, three charts

[Douggg]

 

[ewq1938]

this is more accurate:

 

[TribulationSigns]

All charts are biblically incorrect. There will not be 1,000 literal years of the Millennial Kingdom in the future. There will not be 7 literal years of "Great Tribulation" with the so-called evil prince confirming an agreement with national Israel. The timeline of the premillennial views are all rejected by God.

Sorry.

 

[Douggg]

this is more accurate:

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Congratulations on making a chart of your own. It looks that you made cutouts of parts of my chart and rearranged them - so you would not have to start from scratch.

I will have to look at it some, before commenting.

 

[Douggg]

this is more accurate:

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When the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation, that ends the false messianic age. You chart has the transgression of desolation in the wrong place.


I don't know what the purpose of the "resurrection of the dead" sloping line is supposed to mean.

Nor the Rapture timing sloping line. Are those two lines supposed have arrows on their ends pointing to Jesus's second coming?

 

[Douggg]

All charts are biblically incorrect. There will not be 1,000 literal years of the Millennial Kingdom in the future. There will not be 7 literal years of "Great Tribulation" with the so-called evil prince confirming an agreement with national Israel.

The charts don't show a 7 year Great Tribulation.

 

[ewq1938]

When the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation, that ends the false messianic age. You chart has the transgression of desolation in the wrong place.

The AoD is the AC IMO so that all if part of the GT.

I don't know what the purpose of the "resurrection of the dead" sloping line is supposed to mean.

Nor the Rapture timing sloping line. Are those two lines supposed have arrows on their ends pointing to Jesus's second coming?

Yes. Resurrection first, then the rapture and both happening at the second coming timeframe.

 

[Douggg]

The AoD is the AC IMO so that all if part of the GT.

What do you mean that the abomination of desolation (AoD) is the Antichrist ? Please explain.

I fixed your chart according to what you believe (although I think it is incorrect) to this.... btw, what program are you using to make your chart ?

 

[ewq1938]

What do you mean that the abomination of desolation (AoD) is the Antichrist ? Please explain.

(ASV) But when ye see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not (let him that readeth understand), then let them that are in Judaea flee unto the mountains:

(ESV) “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

(Weymouth) "As soon, however, as you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION standing where he ought not" --let the reader observe these words-- "then let those in Judaea escape to the hills;

(Williams) "So when you see the destructive desecration standing where he has no right to stand" -- let the reader take notice -- "then let those who remain in Judea fly to the hills;

I fixed your chart according to what you believe (although I think it is incorrect) to this.... btw, what program are you using to make your chart ?

I didn't make the chart. I edited your chart using MS Paint.

 

[Douggg]

(ASV) But when ye see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not (let him that readeth understand), then let them that are in Judaea flee unto the mountains:

(ESV) “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

(Weymouth) "As soon, however, as you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION standing where he ought not" --let the reader observe these words-- "then let those in Judaea escape to the hills;

(Williams) "So when you see the destructive desecration standing where he has no right to stand" -- let the reader take notice -- "then let those who remain in Judea fly to the hills;

It appears from those quotes, that you interpret "standing" as meaning a person, the Antichrist, "standing", which is reasonable - if that were the only reference to the abomination of desolation.

However, when we look at Daniel 12:11-12, the abomination of desolation will be "set up". Which eliminates the AoD being a person. What the AoD will be is a statue image made in the standing position - and placed (set up) on the temple mount courtyard - where it can readily be seen, so that them in Judea will know to flee to the mountains.


11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

 

[Douggg]

I didn't make the chart. I edited your chart using MS Paint.

Did you make cutouts and moved the cutouts around to get the results you wanted in the charts appearance ?

I use Corel Photoshop Pro. And one of the main tools is make cutouts (which when made become "layers"). Then the layers can be moved around, stretched, trimmed, enlarged, reduced, move over or under other layers, and other manipulation, to get the desired results.

When text is made, it also becomes a layer, which can be manipulated.

It actually becomes second nature after awhile.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

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Yes, just ignore that there are also post-trib amillennialists and not just post-trib premils. LOL. What a joke.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

A chart showing how the pre-trib rapture view comes across to me:

 

[ewq1938]

Did you make cutouts and moved the cutouts around to get the results you wanted in the charts appearance ?

Yes, I basically used copy/cut and paste.

I use Corel Photoshop Pro. And one of the main tools is make cutouts (which when made become "layers"). Then the layers can be moved around, stretched, trimmed, enlarged, reduced, move over or under other layers, and other manipulation, to get the desired results.

When text is made, it also becomes a layer, which can be manipulated.

It actually becomes second nature after awhile.

Paint is just one layer but you can open the same image twice or more to copy and paste parts to the new version being created.

 

[Douggg]

Paint is just one layer but you can open the same image twice or more to copy and paste parts to the new version being created.

For the few times I have tried to use MS Paint, I found it difficult to use and could not get the results I wanted.

Since I was already very familiar with Corel Photoshop Pro, I had something to compare MS Paint to.

I suggest that you try Corel Photoshop Pro.

 

[ewq1938]

For the few times I have tried to use MS Paint, I found it difficult to use and could not get the results I wanted.

Since I was already very familiar with Corel Photoshop Pro, I had something to compare MS Paint to.

I suggest that you try Corel Photoshop Pro.

I have no need for it as I can do anything I want with paint.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I have no need for it as I can do anything I want with paint.

You're making Douggg so sad here. He so badly wanted you to buy Corel Photoshop Pro since apparently no other software can be used to make decent charts. Oh well.

 

[rebuilder 454]

this is more accurate:

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Omitting mat 24 before the flood, and Rev14, the gathering of the Jews, would have that chart's resurrection of the dead in Christ after the Rev 14 gathering. A literal impossibility.

 

[rebuilder 454]

A chart showing how the pre-trib rapture view comes across to me:

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Troll with no verses.
Amil weirdness.
Hard to believe anyone could fall for it.

 

[rebuilder 454]

You're making Douggg so sad here. He so badly wanted you to buy Corel Photoshop Pro since apparently no other software can be used to make decent charts. Oh well.

Please start some amil thread, and stop trolling anyone disagreeing with you.
You and the 2 others with that obscure doctrine can happily slam the body of Christ to your hearts content in your amil fantasy land.