Your domicile says "Midwest". Why aren't you in Israel among the antichrists you adore?
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I'm not Israel. I'm just a Bible believing Christian who loves my enemies. You should try it. It can take away all that HATRED that possesses you.
You didn't answer the question.
Why aren't you in Israel among the antichrists you adore?
You still didn't answer the question.
Why aren't you in Israel among the antichrists you adore?
Spiritual Israelite
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LOL. Are you afraid to give your understanding of these passages? Are you afraid to have your view challenged? That comes across as you just believing what you want to believe. Please enlighten me as to how the following passages should be interpreted:
Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.
What is your understanding of the identity of "the Israel of God" here?
Ephesians 2:11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.....19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.
What is your understanding of the identity of "Israel" in this passage?
You act like you have all the answers, so why avoid answering these questions? I'm sure if your doctrine is true you can show how these passages don't refer to a spiritual Israel and refer to the physical nation of Israel instead. So, here is your chance to do that.
Why would I be in Israel?You still didn't answer the question.
Why aren't you in Israel among the antichrists you adore?
Are you guys debating whether the concept of a Spiritual Israel is Biblical, or whether the exact phrase "Spiritual Israel" can be found in the Bible?
Spiritual Israelite
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He has a lot of trouble answering simple questions for some reason.You still didn't answer the question.
Why aren't you in Israel among the antichrists you adore?
Already said it.
Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them. 15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
God brought "My people Israel" Home to stay, in the Land of the Bible and all the wannabees CANNOT remove them.
Spiritual Israelite
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I and covenantee are showing that the former is true and Jack is just countering with the obvious, which is that the latter is not true (even though no one is claiming as such). It's his dishonest way of not addressing my contention that the concept of a spiritual Israel is taught in scripture.
What you have proven that you are OBSESSED with "Spiritual Israel" but can't find even one Scripture that says "Spiritual Israel"!
Spiritual Israelite
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So, you think the following passages are talking about the physical nation of Israel despite Paul indicating that nothing physical has anything to do with what he was talking about.
Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.
Ephesians 2:11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.....19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.
Instead of just quoting some other passage, why don't you show how Paul taught that being part of "the Israel of God" has to do with anything physical. And why don't you show how the blood of Christ brought Gentiles near to the nation of Israel. You are afraid to exegete these passages and show exactly how you interpret them. Just quoting some other passage doesn't cut it. Show me how these passages agree with your claims? Can you do that?
Spiritual Israelite
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I showed you 3 passages that teach the concept of a spiritual Israel. You are the one obsessed with that term, not me. That's just something that people call it to differentiate it from the nation of Israel. Let's call it "the Israel of God" instead. Okay, now address my points instead of distracting from them with your nonsense complaining about what term I'm using to describe "the Israel of God" that consists of all those who have been made a new creation in Christ.
I think Israel is Home to stay as God foretold! And MANY will perish trying to remove them.
Show us "Spiritual Israelite" in the Bible. Quote "Spiritual Israelite" please.
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