Bar one exception

[2bme]

You just stated your "belief system".

Was it my belief that convinced the Fortitude Valley clinc and my general practitioner to cease my treatment for schizophrenia? I'd like to know how any patient could convince people like that with a belief.

 

[2bme]

Why can’t you be with the one you love?



Love is patient.

I guess I'll keep waiting them. Thankyou Paul for reminding me to be patient, even if it's for a reason you'd consider sinful. You chief of sinner's you :)

 

[Behold]

Was it my belief that convinced the Fortitude Valley clinc and my general practitioner to cease my treatment for schizophrenia?

That is very unfortunate, as if you need Professional Treatment and its not being provided by the Australian Health Care services, then that is very wrong.
Perhaps you could solicit an authority who is a part of your Local Government.? ??

 

[Matthias]

I guess I'll keep waiting them. Thankyou Paul for reminding me to be patient, even if it's for a reason you'd consider sinful. You chief of sinner's you :)

I didn’t mention Paul, and Paul wouldn’t have advised anyone to patiently wait to commit sin.

Having said that, you knew without me saying so that I had Paul in mind. That’s encouraging to me. The light is still flickering inside you. It hasn’t entirely gone it. You remembered.

 

[Matthias]

Nope.

Then you won’t.

The gospel message is an invitation from the Messiah to help him manage the world. You’ve declined it; a decision that has a serious consequence.

I’m asking you to reconsider and hoping that you will.

 

[ScottA]

It is completely normal in this day and age to believe in a God whom a person accepts has some type of spiritual/religious connection. It's become so normalised that a person has actual legal rights under certain government's. Those people who practice such spiritual/religious beliefs shape; manage their whole lives around this ability to connect with their God.

For whatever reason that has convinced them that this is actually plausible, whether it be a feeling God impresses on them, or they receive a sign that comes from above, or it could be something like a word sent directly to their heart, maybe a word for someone else. There's no denying that billions of human beings think this way about their God's. God's who are to be accepted as an invisible entity, a natural state for God while people live in the physical universe.

Now this is where I would like to make my argument and defend my rights as an Australian citizen. I should have the same right to claim all of the above mentioned but in regards of a connection with another human being who exists on this planet. Because I don't consider it would be fair for other people to regard my belief in that manner bogus while their belief in the exact same manner are protected.

That is a reasonable position under assumed circumstances, but it does not fit the actual circumstances.

The world is not a place of fairness, or rights, or everyone having and equal say. It is rather the manifestation of everything everyone ever believed. That is why you are having the experience you are--just like everyone else, with or without some seemingly having a greater say. No one really does. That's a myth of wishful thinking, that is just not true.

Meanwhile, amidst this chaotic experience, the God who created this world is working it all for good according to His own purpose. Which means, yes, it is not going to go well if one is swimming against His intentional current leading to that great sea that is now invisible to those born of flesh and blood. The good news is, He has left a trail of breadcrumbs for those who have ears and eyes to hear and see them.

But make no mistake, yes, some, even many are blind to it all during the times of this world. Intentionally. He made the world, and these are His terms. The idea is that only those who want to spend eternity with God, will gravitate in His direction. The parameters that He has given are good and evil. If one likes and wants good, it is most natural for them to walk through life in that direction, availing themselves to His hand up to the greater realm of the spirit where all things--including Him are then visible. To the contrary, those who prefer their mischief will meet every fork in the road of life with the illusion that what is good in His sight, is just one of many possible choices. The end result of which is we are what we are, so we doing what we do, and end up where we end up because of our own consistent trajectory. Biblically, that is stated as God setting before us life and death, blessing and cursing, telling us therefore choose life that we may live beyond this seemingly crazy world (Deuteronomy 30:19).

In the end, all are raised up from flesh and blood into spirit (as God is spirit) to fulfill their choice. For eternity. And that is why the movement is so unavoidable. Indeed, the eyewitness testimonies are recorded in the single most unbroken line down through all of the history of the world. There is only one such record. All others are only for a time.

 

[ScottA]

Why is that exactly? If believing in Jesus is better for any group of individuals overall, how did Christianity digress into its splintered fighting match it is today. Could you conceive that I might have a point about the effect's of believing?

The question with the correct answer, is not "how", but "Why did Christianity digress?"

The reason, is: It was and is intentional. So that every generation would have an equal opportunity to gaze into the heavens, into a lover's eyes, or the face of a child, and know there is a God--and choose.

When all have had their time of decision...then comes the end of this world, for it will have served its purpose.

 

[ScottA]

If I can't be with the one I love, then death would be better than going through the hell of waiting.

Seemingly. But it is important to make the right choice, whether good or evil. Only then will you attain what you hope to attain.

 

[2bme]

I didn’t mention Paul, and Paul wouldn’t have advised anyone to patiently wait to commit sin.

Having said that, you knew without me saying so that I had Paul in mind. That’s encouraging to me. The light is still flickering inside you. It hasn’t entirely gone it. You remembered.

Let me ask you a personal question. Were you crying when you wrote that reply?

 

[Matthias]

Let me ask you a personal question. Were you crying when you wrote that reply?

No. I was speaking softly from the heart.

 

[2bme]

No. I was speaking softly from the heart.

I am not Darth Vader, and you are not Luke Skywalker.

 

[Matthias]

I am not Darth Vader, and you are not Luke Skywalker.

You’re a man with a broken spirit, and I’m a man filled with God’s spirit.

I’m holding out my hand to you, and you’re slapping it away.

 

[2bme]

You’re a man with a broken spirit, and I’m a man filled with God’s spirit.

I’m holding out my hand to you, and you’re slapping it away.

You are not holding out anything but something for me to believe.

 

[Matthias]

You are not holding out anything but something for me to believe.

You don’t believe anything, or so we were told. Then from out of the blue clear sky a thread where you say that you do.

Most people here pay no attention to you. A few do. I’m among the few who do.

 

[2bme]

You don’t believe anything, or so we were told. Then from out of the blue clear sky a thread where you say that you do.

Most people here pay no attention to you. A few do. I’m among the few who do.

Then obviously you haven't taken in and understood what I said in past history on this forum about believing.

 

[2bme]

That is a reasonable position under assumed circumstances, but it does not fit the actual circumstances.

The world is not a place of fairness, or rights, or everyone having and equal say. It is rather the manifestation of everything everyone ever believed. That is why you are having the experience you are--just like everyone else, with or without some seemingly having a greater say. No one really does. That's a myth of wishful thinking, that is just not true.

Meanwhile, amidst this chaotic experience, the God who created this world is working it all for good according to His own purpose. Which means, yes, it is not going to go well if one is swimming against His intentional current leading to that great sea that is now invisible to those born of flesh and blood. The good news is, He has left a trail of breadcrumbs for those who have ears and eyes to hear and see them.

But make no mistake, yes, some, even many are blind to it all during the times of this world. Intentionally. He made the world, and these are His terms. The idea is that only those who want to spend eternity with God, will gravitate in His direction. The parameters that He has given are good and evil. If one likes and wants good, it is most natural for them to walk through life in that direction, availing themselves to His hand up to the greater realm of the spirit where all things--including Him are then visible. To the contrary, those who prefer their mischief will meet every fork in the road of life with the illusion that what is good in His sight, is just one of many possible choices. The end result of which is we are what we are, so we doing what we do, and end up where we end up because of our own consistent trajectory. Biblically, that is stated as God setting before us life and death, blessing and cursing, telling us therefore choose life that we may live beyond this seemingly crazy world (Deuteronomy 30:19).

In the end, all are raised up from flesh and blood into spirit (as God is spirit) to fulfill their choice. For eternity. And that is why the movement is so unavoidable. Indeed, the eyewitness testimonies are recorded in the single most unbroken line down through all of the history of the world. There is only one such record. All others are only for a time.

Good and Evil is just a term people use when they refer to their particular taste. If you are willing to listen close enough you'll notice how they are describing something they like or dislike. There is no further thinking about it or what the actual nature of good or evil is, which I think there isn't such a thing.

 

[2bme]

You don’t believe anything, or so we were told. Then from out of the blue clear sky a thread where you say that you do.

Most people here pay no attention to you. A few do. I’m among the few who do.

How about this reply: I believe in you.

 

[2bme]

 

[Matthias]

How about this reply: I believe in you.

 

[ScottA]

Good and Evil is just a term people use when they refer to their particular taste. If you are willing to listen close enough you'll notice how they are describing something they like or dislike. There is no further thinking about it or what the actual nature of good or evil is, which I think there isn't such a thing.

You're wrong.

I was referring to good and God in my explanation as I did, because I've been there.

But, hey, you do you. Fine. That's the point. That is what is meant to be.