Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

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Reggie Belafonte

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I asked this question earlier. You don’t think that a Jew could be anti-Zion?
Could a real Christian be anti Zion ? No ! in fact No !
Could a real Jew be anti Zion ? No !

But bro i am talking about Biblical Zion in fact ! not the Zionist of this world who are clearly not Saved in fact !

Do you think that one who has not Grace can be worthy of Zion ?

You poor dude you are under delusions and deceptions in fact, for you are rejecting Christ Jesus in fact and are looking to this world in fact, you are religious but not Saved in fact, to come up with the nonsense that you claim in fact.

Why would i support Nazis like the Zionist of this world who have not Grace in fact, the ones who Kill just like Jesus says in fact, because their father is full of lies and was a murderer from the beginning !

Ask me this bro, do the Zionist know Christ Jesus.
For if they did know Jesus was the Christ then they would be Christians, would they not ?

Bro, why do people claim to be Christians and support the Anti-Christ ?

Jews are Anti-Christ in fact ! Could anyone say that they are not in fact ! No ! Guilty as charged in fact and no one could say no they are not guilty of such at all in fact. it's 100% resolute in fact !

So be warned all such who support the Anti-Christ are going to Hell in fact ! Repent now !
 

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What dictionary are you relying on to form your thoughts on anti-Semitic?
Anti means ?
Semitic means ? a race of people in fact.

Anti-Semitic, clearly means in fact, regardless of the deception of this world that has created such a delusion ! that means what the two words are in fact Not in favour of a race of Semitic people ?

Like anyone with a brain knows that the Islamic world consist of around 90% of the Semitic peoples !
So that in it's self is self explanatory ?

Why would anyone make a Claim that the Jews are the Semites ? far fetched to make such a claim or just out right prejudice !

The claim that dictionary's make regarding Anti-Semitic does not compute in fact ! Who made up such a pathetic contradiction in fact ! very cunning for sure ! Satanist created such nonsense as a diversion. and the issue clearly has nothing to do with Semitic people at all in fact.

Think about it ! Anti ? and Semite ? Semite means a race ! who are the Semites, clearly Islam is !
 

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But bro i am talking about Biblical Zion in fact !
Right. We are using the same word but speaking different languages!

Your opposition to supporting Zion is an Appeal to Strawman. This logical fallacy of Bbblical Zion has NOTHING to do with the reasons in the OP for why civilization should support Israel.
 

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Right. We are using the same word but speaking different languages!

Your opposition to supporting Zion is an Appeal to Strawman. This logical fallacy of Bbblical Zion has NOTHING to do with the reasons in the OP for why civilization should support Israel.
You can not be serious !
Talk to any grub off the street and they would understand your issue concerning the issue in fact, because they are shallow with little regard for anything in depth in fact. but i know the difference bro and you clearly do not in fact, for you are so shallow on the issue, why ? i think you have only been indoctrinated on the subject by some fools or evil men ?

Oh LOOK The Zionist are Biblical Zion ? No ! they are not Biblical Zion at all in fact, they are a Whore ! and Anti-Christ in fact, so how in the Hell can such be Biblical Zion ! The Reject God Bro ! and if you think that they serve God ? how can a worthy Christian say that a Mob who reject Christ Jesus are worthy of Biblical Zion in fact !

You and whoever makes such a claim they are Zion is an Anti-Christ in fact ! because such are rejecting Jesus in fact and such is going to Hell in fact !
The Zionist are the ones who created the Nazis and Communist they controlled such morons into power fact and the 6 million Jews in Germany despised them for being not worthy of God in fact, go do your home work on the issue ! The Jews in Germany were a huge threat to the so called Zionist, for they knew such were Godless. So the Zionist got the Nazi morons to do their dirty work !
The Head of the Zionist walked into Hitlers office all the way through Hitlers days in Power in fact !
It was the Zionist who were in charge of Hitler in fact and told this monkey what to do in fact and that's why Hitler had to yell and threaten all around him like a total moron, because if he spoke like a real man, the Generals would of cut him down for being the biggest dip stick of all in fact ! The biggest blight to all Germans in fact, he was treating them like he treated the 6 million Jews ! same deal just different angle ! Same with the Communist, they were played by the Zionist for total fools !
Not to mention nowadays the Zions play the Jews in the State for fools but not all Jews swallow the so called Zionist line and call the Zionist Nazis in fact !
Same with the USA, Canada, Australia, UK are all dupes for this bastard Zionist trash that leads fools astray and just look who falls for such trash, shallow people and religious dupes !

The Zionist undermined the State of Israel of late and let this Attack happen in fact, it's all their tactics that are at hand, Dog cunning as and the Media are so full of BS ! supporting trash that attacked the Jewish people like that ! such is insanity ! outright insanity, but that's how Satanist work, giving power to trash ! Their is no right at all to attack the Jews like that ! it should of all been condemned totally from the start and do not give the Islamic trash an inch at all !
Us real Jews know what is going on, for we understand the nature of such a beast.
 

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Projecting as you are not even touching the OP reasons given to support Zion.
I support Biblical Zion ! So should everyone who is a Christian in fact !

But wake up dude, i do not support the so called Zionist, for as any worthy Christine knows, that Jesus said about this world is full of deceptions and delusions.

So why would a Christian support one of this world ? as the fact is that such an organisation as the so called Zionist are not worthy of Christ Jesus in fact ! Get it ! For Anti-Christ they are in fact ? So why would a worthy Christian give such as them who have not Grace in fact for they are a Whore in fact !

How stupid would one have to be regarding a Mob, who have not Grace in fact, for they are of this world in fact, so why would a Christian give such trash as that the time of day in regards God ! They are Anti-Christ in fact !

What works could they do that is in regards God ! Nothing at all in fact !

Only a carnal person could be so stupid or just a religious dupe, that is mislead or brainwashed, that they do not know the difference between one who is clearly an outright Anti-Christ !

The Jews of today are not worthy of God in fact and anyone who claims they are is an Anti-Christ and is going to Hell in fact, for they do not serve Christ Jesus in fact, for such clearly do not know him !
 

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From Hamas Nazis Surrendering in Droves, Most Participated in the October 7 Massacre

“Incidentally, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said it was concerned by the images and that all detainees must be treated with humanity and dignity in accordance with international humanitarian law.

That’s the same ICRC that refused to deliver life-saving medication to Israeli hostages in Hamas captivity and whose officials have yet to visit the hostages.”
 

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@Reggie Belafonte, an article you will want to read American Jews Never Learned to Fight Leftist Jew-Hatred:
They relied heavily on “antisemitism”: a term invented in the 19th century by a German socialist bigot, Wilhelm Marr, to emphasize the race of the Jews. But ... The Soviet expectation was that the Jews would disappear as a people, but, aside from Stalin’s final years, avoided any plans for the racial extermination of the Jews.
The Marxist and the Islamic position, unlike the Nazi racial position, did not require the physical extermination of the Jews at a genetic level, only a cultural genocide. Jews would be allowed to exist under Communism or Islam, as long as they abandoned their religion and national identity.

The Soviet Union could point to examples of high-ranking Jewish figures who had rejected Zionism and Judaism, and represented the Communist ideal for the Jews.

Jews had to be culturally, but not racially eradicated. Those Jews who joined with non-Jewish Marxists in the rejection of Judaism and Zionism were praiseworthy Marxists. Those who did not were an “enemy of the proletariat” to be executed like a number of my great-uncles.
The pro-Hamas Left insists that it is not ‘antisemitic’ and most of it probably believes that’s true because while traditional bigotry and hatred created the Islamic obsession with killing Jews and the conviction in the old Marxist Left that the Jews were not a legitimate people, the final product is cloaked in talk about liberation, decolonization and an end to privilege and oppression.
It may support the mass murder of Jews, but it doesn’t culturally ‘feel’ like ‘antisemitism. The Leftist hatred of Jews doesn’t fit the liberal model in which there is a continuity of oppression. A downtrodden minority faces prejudice, which escalates into political repression and then violence. First there are the jokes, then laws and then bullets. Leftists cheering for Hamas would argue that since they don’t tell ‘antisemitic’ jokes, they can’t be considered antisemitic even while they’re calling for the mass murder of Jews.

The ideological detachment from reality can be measured in the fact that inmates in Nazi camps did not shout, “Heil Hitler” before dying, but those in Soviet gulags were known to shout, “long live Stalin” before being executed. The Nazis knew what they were doing, Communists often did not. They existed and still exist in an ideological haze of slogans rather than people.

Confronting the realities of the assaults on Jews will require taking stock of a cultural war, rather than a racial one, and deal with outcomes instead of motives. Talking about ‘antisemitism’ becomes misleading when confronting a form of antisemitism that hides its ethnic hatred behind cultural and political hostility.

Among the unexamined truisms that need to be rethought is ‘antisemitism’.
Antisemitism refers to race and when it comes to the hatred of Jews, culture trumps race. Aside from the Nazis and a few ‘Jewish Question’ obsessed racialists, hardly anyone who hates Jews would propose using genetic screening to track down people of Jewish descent who don’t even know that they are Jewish to exterminate them. Most cultural ‘antisemitism’ has a racial component, but it’s triggered by the idea of the Jews as a community and a people.
The term ‘antisemitism’ conflates someone who doesn’t like Jews, but would never engage in violence or support violence, with those who engage in and support violence against Jews. Furthermore some of those who support the mass murder of Jews don’t believe that they’re prejudiced against Jews, but believe that killing Jewish children is the right thing to do.
The liberal Jewish establishment has spent too much time fighting ‘prejudice’ and not enough time dealing with ‘eliminationist’ sentiments. The existential threat is not prejudice: it’s genocide.

The pact between Islam and the Left manifested once again in the response to the Oct 7 atrocities should be met the same way. The Left should be rejected the same way the Communists were. American Jews must relearn how to fight this enemy. After three generations of failing to confront the leftist hatred of Jews, it’s time to fight.
 

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@Reggie Belafonte, an article you will want to read American Jews Never Learned to Fight Leftist Jew-Hatred:
They relied heavily on “antisemitism”: a term invented in the 19th century by a German socialist bigot, Wilhelm Marr, to emphasize the race of the Jews. But ... The Soviet expectation was that the Jews would disappear as a people, but, aside from Stalin’s final years, avoided any plans for the racial extermination of the Jews.
The Marxist and the Islamic position, unlike the Nazi racial position, did not require the physical extermination of the Jews at a genetic level, only a cultural genocide. Jews would be allowed to exist under Communism or Islam, as long as they abandoned their religion and national identity.
The Soviet Union could point to examples of high-ranking Jewish figures who had rejected Zionism and Judaism, and represented the Communist ideal for the Jews.
Jews had to be culturally, but not racially eradicated. Those Jews who joined with non-Jewish Marxists in the rejection of Judaism and Zionism were praiseworthy Marxists. Those who did not were an “enemy of the proletariat” to be executed like a number of my great-uncles.
The pro-Hamas Left insists that it is not ‘antisemitic’ and most of it probably believes that’s true because while traditional bigotry and hatred created the Islamic obsession with killing Jews and the conviction in the old Marxist Left that the Jews were not a legitimate people, the final product is cloaked in talk about liberation, decolonization and an end to privilege and oppression.
It may support the mass murder of Jews, but it doesn’t culturally ‘feel’ like ‘antisemitism. The Leftist hatred of Jews doesn’t fit the liberal model in which there is a continuity of oppression. A downtrodden minority faces prejudice, which escalates into political repression and then violence. First there are the jokes, then laws and then bullets. Leftists cheering for Hamas would argue that since they don’t tell ‘antisemitic’ jokes, they can’t be considered antisemitic even while they’re calling for the mass murder of Jews.
The ideological detachment from reality can be measured in the fact that inmates in Nazi camps did not shout, “Heil Hitler” before dying, but those in Soviet gulags were known to shout, “long live Stalin” before being executed. The Nazis knew what they were doing, Communists often did not. They existed and still exist in an ideological haze of slogans rather than people.
Confronting the realities of the assaults on Jews will require taking stock of a cultural war, rather than a racial one, and deal with outcomes instead of motives. Talking about ‘antisemitism’ becomes misleading when confronting a form of antisemitism that hides its ethnic hatred behind cultural and political hostility.
Among the unexamined truisms that need to be rethought is ‘antisemitism’.
Antisemitism refers to race and when it comes to the hatred of Jews, culture trumps race. Aside from the Nazis and a few ‘Jewish Question’ obsessed racialists, hardly anyone who hates Jews would propose using genetic screening to track down people of Jewish descent who don’t even know that they are Jewish to exterminate them. Most cultural ‘antisemitism’ has a racial component, but it’s triggered by the idea of the Jews as a community and a people.
The term ‘antisemitism’ conflates someone who doesn’t like Jews, but would never engage in violence or support violence, with those who engage in and support violence against Jews. Furthermore some of those who support the mass murder of Jews don’t believe that they’re prejudiced against Jews, but believe that killing Jewish children is the right thing to do.
The liberal Jewish establishment has spent too much time fighting ‘prejudice’ and not enough time dealing with ‘eliminationist’ sentiments. The existential threat is not prejudice: it’s genocide.

The pact between Islam and the Left manifested once again in the response to the Oct 7 atrocities should be met the same way. The Left should be rejected the same way the Communists were. American Jews must relearn how to fight this enemy. After three generations of failing to confront the leftist hatred of Jews, it’s time to fight.
So ? I do not give a rats what Nazi or Communist say, it's all stupid rubbish as any Political Correct nonsense is in fact just dribbling BS spastics that are off with the pixies.

Political Correctness is the heart of the problem, Look at Denmark now making stupid Laws, regarding Islam ? one can not burn such books etc etc or Danish people go to Jail for that ! but anyone in the world could do anything regarding offending Christianity, even killing people in mass, like they have done in Africa wiping out whole Tribes ! and all is quiet regarding the MSM and Governments on such issues !

I am not against the Jews at all in fact as i am one ! but just as their is issues between Christians so it is within every Religion be it Jewish or Islam as well in fact, so the think is that political Correctness comes from a stupid deranged position as such is not worthy of a open minded mature position but that of pathetic demands coming from people who are not mature and not to mention have no Grace in fact ! Typical of anyone who has no maturity who is not Saved in fact, for they are Anti-Christ.

I do not see you dear Wrangler promoting and standing against anyone who promotes Anti-Christ actions in fact but are only championing a Political Correct Anti-Semite opinion ? Not a Anti-Jewish opinion ?

If one came out with an Anti-Jewish opinion, call it out for what it is in fact, that way people can understand the issue directed about such, but saying Anti-Semite is so blunt and to wide to be taken seriously by anyone but for shallow dupes, as such does nothing to help the Jewish people at all truly but sadly makes a joke out of such in fact. because such is so shallow.
Anti-Semite It is look as worthy from a shallow dingbat perspective like Political Correctness, but as anyone who has a handle on such as Political Correctness would not give such the time of day, why because such is corrupt as Hell in fact and truly useless as. Not worthy of God at all in fact and as the years pass will serve for nothing, for such is a mans works that is totally devoid of God in fact !
This world gives credibility to such dribble, for it's full of delusions and deceptions in fact !
You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all.
 

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Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism​

cuz many feel that if they don't they'll find themselves on the wrong side of the tracks. So much for popular opinion!
 

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Political Correctness is the heart of the problem, Look at Denmark now making stupid Laws, regarding Islam ? one can not burn such books etc etc or Danish people go to Jail for that ! but anyone in the world could do anything regarding offending Christianity, even killing people in mass, like they have done in Africa wiping out whole Tribes ! and all is quiet regarding the MSM and Governments on such issues !
Excellent subject for a different thread! Please start one.

The social acceptance/media black out of ongoing Christian persecution is an outrage!