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amigo de christo

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Catholicism is a work of the law. The law requires that you do a lot of religious things. Paul said, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for those that believe" Romans 10:4. You apparently believe.
Catholicism is , is what ....................a work of the law you say . NO , rather the work of all out darkness .
IT dont even know the law . the law pointed to JESUS CHRIST .
they see the law as did the unbelieving jews . a means to attain righteousness
and by righteousness by appearance . appearance you might ask , well amigo whatever do you mean by appearance .
WELL THEY DONT EVEN KEEP IT , they DO as they DO for to be SEEN OF MEN ,to have GLORY OF MEN
for power , for control , for worship of men . THEY DONT DO as they do from the heart , from faith
but to be called , MOST HOLY , to be seen of men . to recieve praise OF MEN and not rather the praise that cometh OF GOD .
FOR IF they had sought that , they would not have done as they do FOR TO BE SEEN of men
nor would they do as they do IN THE DARK . the very dark they love and yet when it is day and mens eyes be upon them
THEY PLAY THE HYPROCRITE as BEHAVE as though they the most HOLY THING that ever walked
but if one could only see into the dark wherein they love to play in secrete , they would see , OH DEAR
these things are hyprocrites for they SAY and yet DO NOT .
 

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BEST LAUGH of the DAY = @Marymog says: "I can't find anything in Scripture that backs up your opinions,"

#1 - Scripture does not support Catholic opinions or anyone's opinions!

#2 - There is no Daniel 3:35-68 = only more catholic opinions

#3 - Unfortunately, you do not understand why the angels say Holy Holy Holy.
And there it is.....STILL no proof that you have anything to back up what you said. Lots of words but nothing said.....Just more bloviating!!! :vgood:

Thanks for your time.....Mary
 

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BEST LAUGH of the DAY = @Marymog says: "I can't find anything in Scripture that backs up your opinions,"

#1 - Scripture does not support Catholic opinions or anyone's opinions

#2 - There is no Daniel 3:35-68 = only more catholic opinions

#3 - Unfortunately, you do not understand why the angels say Holy Holy Holy.

Good Morning @Mink57,

First, notice that JESUS did not pray three times at once but that it was three prayers at three separate times.
Three separate times within a VERY short period of time.
Secondly, praying repetitiously can never absolve a person of their sins = God rejects this vain attempt to please Him.ol
Jesus wasn't praying those three times in order to 'absolve' himself from sins.

It's not as if going to Confession, receiving prayers of penance, repeating them 'mindlessly', is what Catholics DO.
Thirdly, it is the prayer of faith that God hears and moves upon = never by robotic repetitions such as the rosary beads.
THAT'S where we agree! The Rosary was never meant to be some "robotic" recitation of canned prayer. If you were Catholic, you'd understand that there are the Mysteries of the Rosary. The Sorrowful Mysteries...the Joyful Mysteries...The Glorious Mysteries, and more recently, the Luminous Mysteries. Every decade of the Rosary is meant for us to focus on some aspect of the Life of Christ. His agony in the Garden...His birth...His death on the cross...all for US. To remind us...and THANK him for all he DID for us!

David in NJ fully participated in Roman Catholic education, instruction and practice since conception, as both my parents were also full Roman Catholic practitioners.
FULLY participated? I doubt that...
 
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BEST LAUGH of the DAY = @Marymog says: "I can't find anything in Scripture that backs up your opinions,"

#1 - Scripture does not support Catholic opinions or anyone's opinions!
Actually, yeah...it does.
#2 - There is no Daniel 3:35-68 = only more catholic opinions
Depend on WHICH Bible you're using. Gotta ask yourself, "WHY did the Hebrews leave out those verses? Is the fact that they were written in GREEK instead of Hebrew a good enough reason to dismiss them?" If that's the case, then you'd have to dismiss ALL of the New Testament, because it's written in Greek.
#3 - Unfortunately, you do not understand why the angels say Holy Holy Holy.
Yeah. I do. Do you?
 
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BEST LAUGH of the DAY = @Marymog says: "I can't find anything in Scripture that backs up your opinions,"

#1 - Scripture does not support Catholic opinions or anyone's opinions!

#2 - There is no Daniel 3:35-68 = only more catholic opinions

#3 - Unfortunately, you do not understand why the angels say Holy Holy Holy.
I have a request for you my dear friend . and the same for you i will do .
IF YOU EVER see me in agreement with a HARLOT , dont do worry about offending me , YOU DO EVERYTHING
no matter how grave , serious it may be , TO GET ME FAR FAR FAR from that very vile direction i would be headed .
I would say , SMACK ME UPSIDE THE HEAD with NETTLES and and dash gas in my face to rinse .
CEPT i cannot condone violence of any sort . THE POINT IS , LET NO MAN < WOMAN , CHILD or any
sit under or be even influenced by the WELL FAVORED HARLOT . MANY things the harlot does teach
that Though it cliams to be inspired of GOD , YE WILL FIND CONTRADICT THE ORIGINAL DOCTRINE they left us .
SO , do me that favor and i the same for you . And warn any and all who are trapped in her chambers
or who might be entering into them , TO GET THE HECK OUT .
 

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I edited my reply to explain. The edit obviously did not take.

I asked you where in scripture are those words.

And I said Jesus told us to pray to the Father. John 14: 13 And whatever you ask in My name, this I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.

And how to pray in Mathew 6: 9 “Pray, then, in this way: ‘Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name......
Soooo, because Jesus taught us some words, do you believe that those are the ONLY words we should use to pray?

Or...

...was Jesus giving us a 'template' on how to pray? After all, JESUS didn't ONLY pray the Our Father when he prayed to HIS father...
 

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But are you walking in "obedience of faith" in Christ?

JESUS says: "And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words."
Matthew 6:7
Thank you for illustrating your ignorance of Scripture.
Time for a Bible Lesson . . .

First of all - Matt. 6:7 does NOT speak out against repetitious prayers to God. When Jesus made this statement, he was speaking about the nonsensical babbling of pagans to their gods – NOT the sincere prayers of the faithful.
We read about them in 1 Kings 18:26-29, where the pagan prophets on Mount Carmel tried to invoke Baal all day long, repeatedly calling on his name and performing ritual dances

In Matt. 26:44, JESUS himself prayed the EXACT SAME prayer three times in the Garden of Gethsemane after the Last Supper.

In the Parable of the Determined Widow in Luke 18:7, Jesus emphatically states that God hears those who keep petitioning him in sincere faith: “Will not God then secure the rights of his chosen ones who call out to him day and night? Will he be slow to answer them? I tell you, he will see to it that justice is done for them speedily.”

In Luke 18:13, the tax collector kept beating his breast and praying, “God be merciful to me, a sinner.” This was pleasing to God.

We see in Rev. 4:8 that the angels pray the EXACT SAME prayer day and night without ceasing in the presence of almighty God, “Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty.”

Psalm 136
goes on for 26 verses in a row, repeating the EXACT SAME prayer, “God's love endures forever”.

Similarly, in Dan. 3:56-88 we read the EXACT SAME prayer r for 32 verses, which is “bless the Lord; praise and exalt him above all forever.”

Sooooo, exactly what what is your problem with repetitious pray?
 
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BEST LAUGH of the DAY = @Marymog says: "I can't find anything in Scripture that backs up your opinions,"

#1 - Scripture does not support Catholic opinions or anyone's opinions!

#2 - There is no Daniel 3:35-68 = only more catholic opinions

#3 - Unfortunately, you do not understand why the angels say Holy Holy Holy.
Do you have ANY idea WHY it's not in Protestant Bibles?
WHY is your Bible missing 7 Nooks and portions of Esther and Daniel?? I asked your buddy Amigo - but he failed to come up with an answer.

I'll wait right here for your answer . . .
 
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Do you have ANY idea WHY it's not in Protestant Bibles?
WHY is your Bible missing 7 Nooks and portions of Esther and Daniel?? I asked your buddy Amigo - but he failed to come up with an answer.

I'll wait right here for your answer . . .
The TRUTH is i questioned and tested many things . I TOO wondered WHY on earth would anyone remove any books
from the bible . THAT IS , TILL I READ THEM BOOKS FOR MYSELF . THEN KNEW I and UNDERSTOOD I , WHY they had been removed .
 

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Thank you for illustrating your ignorance of Scripture.
Time for a Bible Lesson . . .

First of all - Matt. 6:7 does NOT speak out against repetitious prayers to God. When Jesus made this statement, he was speaking about the nonsensical babbling of pagans to their gods – NOT the sincere prayers of the faithful.
We read about them in 1 Kings 18:26-29, where the pagan prophets on Mount Carmel tried to invoke Baal all day long, repeatedly calling on his name and performing ritual dances

In Matt. 26:44, JESUS himself prayed the EXACT SAME prayer three times in the Garden of Gethsemane after the Last Supper.

In the Parable of the Determined Widow in Luke 18:7, Jesus emphatically states that God hears those who keep petitioning him in sincere faith: “Will not God then secure the rights of his chosen ones who call out to him day and night? Will he be slow to answer them? I tell you, he will see to it that justice is done for them speedily.”

In Luke 18:13, the tax collector kept beating his breast and praying, “God be merciful to me, a sinner.” This was pleasing to God.

We see in Rev. 4:8 that the angels pray the EXACT SAME prayer day and night without ceasing in the presence of almighty God, “Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty.”

Psalm 136
goes on for 26 verses in a row, repeating the EXACT SAME prayer, “God's love endures forever”.

Similarly, in Dan. 3:56-88 we read the EXACT SAME prayer r for 32 verses, which is “bless the Lord; praise and exalt him above all forever.”

Sooooo, exactly what what is your problem with repetitious pray?
"We read about them in 1 Kings 18:26-29, where the pagan prophets on Mount Carmel tried to invoke Baal all day long, repeatedly calling on his name......"

Which is exactly the same practice of catholics calling upon Mary = vain praying
 

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Do you have ANY idea WHY it's not in Protestant Bibles?
WHY is your Bible missing 7 Nooks and portions of Esther and Daniel?? I asked your buddy Amigo - but he failed to come up with an answer.

I'll wait right here for your answer . . .
And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

24Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished; and he rose in haste and spoke, saying to his counselors, “Did we not cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?”

They answered and said to the king, “True, O king.”

25“Look!” he answered, “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”

26Then Nebuchadnezzar went near the mouth of the burning fiery furnace and spoke, saying, “Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, servants of the Most High God, come out, and come here.” Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego came from the midst of the fire. 27And the satraps, administrators, governors, and the king’s counselors gathered together, and they saw these men on whose bodies the fire had no power; the hair of their head was not singed nor were their garments affected, and the smell of fire was not on them.
 

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DB, "binding and loosing" refers to heaven putting it's stamp of approval upon the actions of church leaders WHO ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED AS BIBLICAL ACTION.

IOW, if the church votes to disfellowship (what you guys call "exommunicate") an exposed child pedophile and the voting is based on the plainly defined terms laid out in Scripture by God, then God approves of such action taken by the church.

"Binding and loosing" does not refer to men acting presumptuously apart from God, expecting God to go along with their "wisdom" of action.
WRONG.

First of all -Jesus told the leaders of His Church that the Holy Spirit would guide them to ALL Truth (John 16:12-15).
We see a prime example of this at the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15. The Apostles made an unprecedented decision to NOT require on the believers in Antioch and beyond to observe aspects of the Law.
Their Letter said:
“It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to US not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:”
(Acts 15:28).

We see the guidance of the Holy Spirit again 300 years later when the Church declared the Canon of Scripture (383 AD).

“WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven" (Matt 16:19, 18:18).

Jesus didn’t say “ALREADY bound”.
He said, SHALL BE bound” . . .
 
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"We read about them in 1 Kings 18:26-29, where the pagan prophets on Mount Carmel tried to invoke Baal all day long, repeatedly calling on his name......"

Which is exactly the same practice of catholics calling upon Mary = vain praying
WRONG.

The pagans on Amount Carmel were worshipping Ball.
ASKIJNG Mary or another member of the Body of Christ to pray FOR us is not worahip.

EPIC FAIL.
 
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The TRUTH is i questioned and tested many things . I TOO wondered WHY on earth would anyone remove any books
from the bible . THAT IS , TILL I READ THEM BOOKS FOR MYSELF . THEN KNEW I and UNDERSTOOD I , WHY they had been removed .
No. You didn't understand. Pretty funny that you think that books about WISDOM should be removed FROM THE BIBLE.
 

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And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

24Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished; and he rose in haste and spoke, saying to his counselors, “Did we not cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?”

They answered and said to the king, “True, O king.”

25“Look!” he answered, “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”

26Then Nebuchadnezzar went near the mouth of the burning fiery furnace and spoke, saying, “Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, servants of the Most High God, come out, and come here.” Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego came from the midst of the fire. 27And the satraps, administrators, governors, and the king’s counselors gathered together, and they saw these men on whose bodies the fire had no power; the hair of their head was not singed nor were their garments affected, and the smell of fire was not on them.
Wow....I guess that YOU believe that NOT "all things are possible with God..."
 

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And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

24Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished; and he rose in haste and spoke, saying to his counselors, “Did we not cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?”

They answered and said to the king, “True, O king.”

25“Look!” he answered, “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”

26Then Nebuchadnezzar went near the mouth of the burning fiery furnace and spoke, saying, “Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, servants of the Most High God, come out, and come here.” Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego came from the midst of the fire. 27And the satraps, administrators, governors, and the king’s counselors gathered together, and they saw these men on whose bodies the fire had no power; the hair of their head was not singed nor were their garments affected, and the smell of fire was not on them.
Soooo, am I to understand that you have NO answer to my questions? OR, were you simply confused?

Here they are AGAIN:
Do you have ANY idea WHY it's not in Protestant Bibles?
WHY is your Bible missing 7 Nooks and portions of Esther and
Daniel??
 

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The TRUTH is i questioned and tested many things . I TOO wondered WHY on earth would anyone remove any books
from the bible . THAT IS , TILL I READ THEM BOOKS FOR MYSELF . THEN KNEW I and UNDERSTOOD I , WHY they had been removed .
Okay – tell me then

WHY were they removed?
 

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No. You didn't understand. Pretty funny that you think that books about WISDOM should be removed FROM THE BIBLE.
mens wisdom . AND I DID read those books .
Did you know we got protestants that also try and say the letter of james , the letter to the hebrews
and etc dont apply to the CHURCH . I WONT HEED THEM . I KNOW that is a lie .
I read them and KNOW they are truth and SPIRIT inspired .
And yet when i tested the secondary seven , I KNEW WHY they were removed . YET
you dont seem me agreeing with certain protestants that try and make it seem like the letter of james
or letter to the hebrews dont apply to the Church . THEY DO apply to the church .
BUT the seven other books , YEAH i KNOW why those got removed . there is a huge difference
between the wisdom of men which though it can contain some truths , AND THE WISDOM THAT COMETH OF GOD
which IS THE TRUTH . mens wisdoms are mixed . those seven books had mens wisdom all about them .
EVEN THE RCC called them WHAT again . SECONDARY . even long ago they were wise enough
to not try and PAWN IT OFF as ORGINAL . i read them . Truths are in them but so is the MIX and that wont bode well .
THE SIXTY SIX BOOKS HAVE THE PURE AND HOLY WISDOM OF GOD INSPIRED KNOWLEGE , TRUTH
the seven had the wisdom of men . I SEEN the DIFFERENCE REAL fast too . IT was as though the seven were written
more so to try and justify ...........................SOMETHING ELSE . oops . I DID read them
and put them down and NEVER ONCE LOOKED back . YET THE BIBLE i read daily and often . HUGE DIFFERENCE
between the sixty six books verses the seven . TIME YOU LEARN TO DISCERN that difference . EXACTLY .
 
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Soooo, am I to understand that you have NO answer to my questions? OR, were you simply confused?

Here they are AGAIN:
Do you have ANY idea WHY it's not in Protestant Bibles?
WHY is your Bible missing 7 Nooks and portions of Esther and
Daniel??
I didnt know WHY it was either . I wondered too WHY on earth would any church remove seven books .
THEN I READ THEM and UNDERSTOOD REAL FAST WHY they had been removed . exactly .
 
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Okay – tell me then

WHY were they removed?
THEY were inspired of men , mens wisdom . But you have no idea what i mean . cause if the RCC claims them , YOU CLIAM THEM .
THERE is a big differnce between truths and mixture , verses TRUTH ITSELF .
THE SEVEN were not inspired OF HEAVEN , but of men . THE SIXTY SIX were INSPIRED of heaven and contain no leaven .
I discerned a big difference in the TWO real fast .
I read them with a open mind too . I too wondered WHY , why would a church remove them .
SO with an open mind i read them . THEN UNDERSTOOD I , WHY they had been removed .
ITS NOT LIKE everything those books said were lies . but rather it was mens wisdom to try and put together
something MEN thought might help . WHEN IN TRUTH they dont help but rather lead to something else .
I SEEN WHORE in some of them . things that pointed more to the way the RCC does things
and those things contradicted SOME things the original sixty six had said .
ITs been over fifteen years since i read them .
WHEN i read the sixty six it was not the same as when i was reading the other seven EITHER .
MY ADVICE FOR YOU . GET THE SIXTY SIX WELL LEARNED . READ THEM FOR YOURSELF
four hours daily , learn them well . THEN YOU WILL SEE the DIFFERENCE plain as DAY . JUST like i did .
 
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