Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

[amigo de christo]

I truly understand.
I will say it this way....whom did Jesus come to seek and to save ?
Was it the Pharisees? the scribes? temple priest? the self righteous religious ppl ?
It was to the lost, living in a blackened darkness bc of their unbelief and begging for light. Those religious ones did not want the light for it shined on their evil deeds.

Why do any of us suppose God will send them a delusion to believe a lie and be damed?
Why not just force ppl to believe, as the Calvinists think. Make us believe and obey him regardless of the free will he gave to ALL he has created?

I see the way clearly defined in the word as I study. It is not hard to find the scarlet thread from Genesis to Revelations IF one truly wants the will of the Father, through Christ in their life !

It remains up to the individual's
either accepting or rejecting of the glorious gift of life he offers !

Yep .
Calvin was as deceptive as the popes . I shudder in terror for all the blood that man has on his hands for leading folks astray .
Course i shudder in total terror for what i see these wolves in wool doing today unto christendom in the name of what
they call love and unity . Thats a lot of blood on them hands . We should have stuck to the bible and kept THAT pattern .
But men love the glory and men love followers and men love to have the worship .
But lambs WONT be following them . FOLLOW THE KING to the last breath and THE BIBLICAL WORDS of TRUTH are our meat .

 

[amigo de christo]

I truly understand.
I will say it this way....whom did Jesus come to seek and to save ?
Was it the Pharisees? the scribes? temple priest? the self righteous religious ppl ?
It was to the lost, living in a blackened darkness bc of their unbelief and begging for light. Those religious ones did not want the light for it shined on their evil deeds.

Why do any of us suppose God will send them a delusion to believe a lie and be damed?
Why not just force ppl to believe, as the Calvinists think. Make us believe and obey him regardless of the free will he gave to ALL he has created?

I see the way clearly defined in the word as I study. It is not hard to find the scarlet thread from Genesis to Revelations IF one truly wants the will of the Father, through Christ in their life !

It remains up to the individual's
either accepting or rejecting of the glorious gift of life he offers !

The problem is the wolves are not being corrected but rather are allowed to continue pushing the agenda .
Let me ask you this . WHAT do you think PAUL would be typing on THIS SITE TODAY if he were alive .
A HINT he would not be hollering oh lets just have us some unity and find some common ground and just get along .
I think he would rebuke so grave that most folks would RUN HIM OFF calling him the hater .

 

[amigo de christo]

Todays christendom truly has no idea what it has lost , let alone that it is LOST .
TIME to bible up .

 

[L.A.M.B.]

The problem is the wolves are not being corrected but rather are allowed to continue pushing the agenda .
Let me ask you this . WHAT do you think PAUL would be typing on THIS SITE TODAY if he were alive .
A HINT he would not be hollering oh lets just have us some unity and find some common ground and just get along .
I think he would rebuke so grave that most folks would RUN HIM OFF calling him the hater .

O' foolish people, who hath bewitched you that ye reject the truth and believe the lie.

Ye DID run well but have turned aside to follow vain fables told by wolves in sheep's clothing.

I suppose it would be questions and statements similarly to the above to determine where we left off serving God !

 

[amigo de christo]

O' foolish people, who hath bewitched you that ye reject the truth and believe the lie.

Ye DID run well but have turned aside to follow vain fables told by wolves in sheep's clothing.

I suppose it would be questions and statements similarly to the above to determine where we left off serving God !

Over seventy percent of christendom has done what eve did .
They have chose to believe the sepent rather than GOD , rather than Christ .
Would you like an example .
Eve had told the serpent the truth , WE cannot eat of the tree in the midst of the garden
for in the day we eat thereof we shall surely die . But then the serpent said NAY ye shall not die .
AND EVE BELIEVED HIM .
SO now lets forward to todays GREAT DELUSION that cometh in the name of a broad road LOVE .
DID JESUS really say to go and preach the gospel and that those who believe would be saved
but that those who believed not would be damned . NAY , NAY sayeth the serpent , GOD IS LOVE
implying through his quoate that this means ITS NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE TO BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST
and that they WONT be damned . SATAN IS SLICK SISTER . VERY world wise the serpent is and so are his
unity false love co workers . Cause now over seventy percent of christendom beleive GOD IS FINE WITH ALL RELIGOINS
and that its just not necessary to believe JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
GUESS they forgot where JOHN said , HE who denies JESUS IS the CHRIST IS ANTI CHRIST .
THAT Is the spirit behind this all inclusive broad path , sin accepting way TO GOD . IT COMETH of anti christ , NOT GOD .

 

[amigo de christo]

O' foolish people, who hath bewitched you that ye reject the truth and believe the lie.

Ye DID run well but have turned aside to follow vain fables told by wolves in sheep's clothing.

I suppose it would be questions and statements similarly to the above to determine where we left off serving God !

The lambs shall cling to CHRIST dear sister . Now raise those hands , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME in the building .

 

[L.A.M.B.]

The lambs shall cling to CHRIST dear sister . Now raise those hands , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME in the building .

Colossians 4:2-
Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

Always to God be the glory, my beloved brother!

 

[David in NJ]

Colossians 4:2-
Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

Always to God be the glory, my beloved brother!

May you have a Blessed Week and a Joyful Thanksgiving along with Health in your body and Joy in the Holy Spirit

 

[David in NJ]

The lambs shall cling to CHRIST dear sister . Now raise those hands , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME in the building .

May you have a Blessed Week and a Joyful Thanksgiving along with Health in your body and Joy in the Holy Spirit

 

[Phoneman777]

You're applying modern practices to those that are over 2000 years old.

People didn't wash their food back then? LOL

Please read the other passages that talk about WINE; not GRAPE JUICE. Jesus converted water into wine. YOU, however, are 'converting' wine into grape juice. I noticed that your abhorrence to alcohol seems to be more personal than biblical.

When you realize that "wine" refers to both fermented and unfermented juice, then you'll be ready to understand what's going on.

Grace is about being in God's good favor. Basically, you can have the best 'resume' in the world for a job. But it's up to the potential employer to decide IF they want to hire you.

Look, grace is God giving us what we don't deserve and mercy is God not giving us what we do deserve.

Divine Justice demands sinners pay the sin debt, but God would then be robbed of the objects of His divine love for all eternity since we'd be dead - however, Divine Love demands the sinner be allowed to go free, but His broken law which demands justice goes unsatisfied...what to do?

The solution to this divine enigma? The blood of Jesus.

Jesus' blood both covers the sin debt so the broken law is satisfied - but also provides saving grace to those who by faith alone accept that payment to settle their own account with God. As Paul says it, the blood of Jesus allows God to be "both Just and the Justifier of them which believe".

Yes, and IF we're judged by works, then our works DO have to do with salvation.

Is English your first language? I've already told you that works are required - but not to obtain salvation, but to evidence that salvation has been obtained.

Does an apple tree bare apples to become an apple tree or because it is an apple tree?

This ain't' rocket science!

Saying 'faith ALONE' doesn't get us into heaven. WORKS 'ALONE' also doesn't get us into heaven. It takes BOTH.

Wrong. We're saved by grace through faith alone - works are merely outward evidence of inward conversion.

Catholics and apostate protestants don't understand this is because they think wicked people can obey God's laws. The saved only are capable of obedience to God's law (Ephesians 2:10 KJV; 1 John 5:2-3 KJV) while the wicked can't keep God's commandments even if they wanted to (Romans 8:7 KJV).

 

[Phoneman777]

First of all – rinsing the grapes doesn’t halt or remove the fermentation process.

DB, thou king of the strawmen, I never said "halt"! Of course, fermentation eventually takes over ripened fruit. The name of the game was to "stave off" fermentation as long as possible.

At the very best – it may slightly reduce the fermentation strength – but NOT enough to stop it from becoming alcohol.

Slightly, your altar boy butt - it greatly helped to prolong the shelf life of the juice before it turned into booze.

Modern day pesticides have a stronger effect on slowing the fermentation process.
That’s why tables grapes you buy at the market last so long.

The wine at a 3-day wedding feast in the desert in 1st century Israel was alcoholic.
Try again . . .

They may have been booze there, but God never once condoned it. He told His people to not even look upon booze, let alone drink it and would NEVER come to Earth in the NT and contradict His own counsel to us in the OT.

 

[Robert Pate]

DB, thou king of the strawmen, I never said "halt"! Of course, fermentation eventually takes over ripened fruit. The name of the game was to "stave off" fermentation as long as possible.

Slightly, your altar boy butt - it greatly helped to prolong the shelf life of the juice before it turned into booze.

They may have been booze there, but God never once condoned it. He told His people to not even look upon booze, let alone drink it and would NEVER come to Earth in the NT and contradict His own counsel to us in the OT.

God never intended for his people to become alcoholics. Alcoholism has caused more problems for humanity than any other substance ever created. My brother died from alcoholism; it was a terrible death. God gives us wonderful things to eat and drink and what do we do? we find some way to pervert it.

 

[Wrangler]

They may have been booze there, but God never once condoned it. He told His people to not even look upon booze, let alone drink it

Deuteronomy 7:13, 11:14 for example say that wine is a blessing from God and a few chapters later it says having no wine is a curse (Deuteronomy 28:38, 51). Psalms 104 says that wine gladdens the heart of man. And let’s not forget that Jesus’ first miracle was turning water into wine… and no it wasn’t grape juice.

God even commands the Israelites to go buy beer and celebrate before the Lord (Deuteronomy 14:26).

For more information on the topic, 6 Truths About Alcohol in the Bible (is drinking a sin?)

 

[Wrangler]

When you realize that "wine" refers to both fermented and unfermented juice

Myth. By definition, wine is an alcoholic beverage.

The idea that the all knowing, all powerful Creator cannot figure out how to use words that differentiate between alcohol containing and not alcohol containing is not very honoring of YHWH.

 

[amigo de christo]

Colossians 4:2-
Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

Always to God be the glory, my beloved brother!

That is the KEY to it all my dear sister . If anything we do , one teaches , one allows , one does , DOES not HONOR
GOD then we simply dont embrace it .
The LOVE that truly comes From GOD would always have LOVED GOD , CHRIST , FIRST above all .
Sensual earthly love does not do that . Rather it puts the emphasis on humanity first , on acceptance first
its realationship is not GOD first , rather it simply puts the effort of reconcilation of man to man .
Not man to GOD . This is why their love will never save a soul . THough it have good works and can seem kind
it wont save anyone . Cause its love puts the emphasis on humanity first and that is a big mistake .
HAD we truly loved GOD , CHRIST above all , then we would have had the love which would
have truly also loved its neighbor as itself .
But their love wont correct error . Because in TRUTH , their love puts humanity first , which is a big mistake .
The focus has become on how to please man , make man feel accepted . And by this they care not what is PLEASING to GOD .
Lambs will have the love of GOD upon their hearts . JESUS said
something that will hit the spot on this . Adam put his wife first before GOD . HE chose to eat of his wifes hand
and to disregaurd the warning from GOD . JESUS said , HE who loves mother , father etc more than me aint
worthy of me . SO why do so many now teach a version of love that actually allows for and even teaches disobediance to GOD .
THEY are accepting of the errors and sins , they are putting humanity first . Eating and drinking
of the cup which has not and will not correct and in time leads to ACCEPTANCE of said sins too .

 

[Mink57]

People didn't wash their food back then? LOL

When you realize that "wine" refers to both fermented and unfermented juice, then you'll be ready to understand what's going on.

Look, grace is God giving us what we don't deserve and mercy is God not giving us what we do deserve.

Divine Justice demands sinners pay the sin debt, but God would then be robbed of the objects of His divine love for all eternity since we'd be dead - however, Divine Love demands the sinner be allowed to go free, but His broken law which demands justice goes unsatisfied...what to do?

The solution to this divine enigma? The blood of Jesus.

Jesus' blood both covers the sin debt so the broken law is satisfied - but also provides saving grace to those who by faith alone accept that payment to settle their own account with God. As Paul says it, the blood of Jesus allows God to be "both Just and the Justifier of them which believe".

Is English your first language? I've already told you that works are required - but not to obtain salvation, but to evidence that salvation has been obtained.

Does an apple tree bare apples to become an apple tree or because it is an apple tree?

This ain't' rocket science!

Wrong. We're saved by grace through faith alone - works are merely outward evidence of inward conversion.

Catholics and apostate protestants don't understand this is because they think wicked people can obey God's laws. The saved only are capable of obedience to God's law (Ephesians 2:10 KJV; 1 John 5:2-3 KJV) while the wicked can't keep God's commandments even if they wanted to (Romans 8:7 KJV).

Why do you some of you guys make this so HARD? LOVE God, LOVE your neighbor, do unto others. That's pretty much IT in a nutshell.

Do you REALLY believe that if someone...EVEN CHRIST...had a glass or two of wine, he would be somehow 'evil'? Can one drink wine without becoming drunk? Or without their wine-bibing (yes, I know it's not a REAL word) becoming habitual?

In all honesty, I don't give two hoots about whether Jesus drank wine or not. I DO care about his other teachings...being kind...being forgiving...being generous...having empathy...showing compassion, even to those we don't like...

Sorry Phoneman, but you seem to be pushing your own interpretation of the Bible.

I'll take Chruch Fathers over you any day.

 

[Robert Pate]

Why do you some of you guys make this so HARD? LOVE God, LOVE your neighbor, do unto others. That's pretty much IT in a nutshell.

Do you REALLY believe that if someone...EVEN CHRIST...had a glass or two of wine, he would be somehow 'evil'? Can one drink wine without becoming drunk? Or without their wine-bibing (yes, I know it's not a REAL word) becoming habitual?

In all honesty, I don't give two hoots about whether Jesus drank wine or not. I DO care about his other teachings...being kind...being forgiving...being generous...having empathy...showing compassion, even to those we don't like...

Sorry Phoneman, but you seem to be pushing your own interpretation of the Bible.

I'll take Chruch Fathers over you any day.

In Christ day the "Church Fathers" were the Pharisees. They all went to hell.

 

[David in NJ]

In Christ day the "Church Fathers" were the Pharisees. They all went to hell.

For us who are have been Called Out of this world to Know the Savior, there are no 'church fathers'.

We are the priesthood of the Eternal Temple, built without men's hands = being built upon Christ = Eph 2:19-22 & 1 Peter 2:5

Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ

 

[Mink57]

Oh i never once implied that all catholics agree with the pope . But they are all being decieved by their own traditions .

What a crock. Catholics don't go by "their own traditions." The difference is, that Catholics aren't Sola Scriptura.

OH i know some catholics who are right on cue about this pope francis . THEY KNOW he does the work of the dark one .

Oh, puh-LEEZ. I'll bet dollars to donuts that you said that same thing about the previous Popes...

PS , you might wanna warn the others about that man . Yes i do know not all catholics are alike .
Out of great love and concern for their souls or anyones soul , this lamb gonna warn folks to get out of dangerous places .
Including , sadly , most within the protestant realm too . WE GOT us a MEGA MASSIVE MELODIOUS DELUSION
going on within christendom . sadly more and more fall to its false unifying love message . ITS deadly .
My advice is , GET IN THEM BIBLES and STAY in them bibles and do not read it through the lens of the RCC
nor other denominations either . Cause deception is MASSIVE today and its only getting worse .

Ha, ha! You say "Get in them Bibles." But isn't that part of the reason WHY we're 'here'?

Phoneman is in HIS bible; BreadOfLife also in his (her?) Bible. The words in BOTH Bibles aren't so much different. The interpretation is different. If the word "gay" meant "happy" a few decades ago. Couldn't some words in the bible also have a different meaning than WE interpret them TODAY?

You interpret a verse one way, *I* interpret it another. We can use different verses to try to prove our point until the cows come home.

If LOVE covers ALL, then why not just Love? Instead of sniping

In Christ day the "Church Fathers" were the Pharisees. They all went to hell.

Not. Even. True.
Not. Even. Biblical.

Be careful with your judgment, Robert. The measure you give is the measure you'll get...

 

[BreadOfLife]

DB, thou king of the strawmen, I never said "halt"! Of course, fermentation eventually takes over ripened fruit. The name of the game was to "stave off" fermentation as long as possible.

Slightly, your altar boy butt - it greatly helped to prolong the shelf life of the juice before it turned into booze.

NOT according to the documentation that I read.

Produce the – documentation for your position. Scientific documentation – not SDA propaganda . . .

Show me documentation that grape juice kept for extended periods in the desert in the 1st century would NOT ferment – or that it was “greatly prolonged” by rinsing the grapes.

They may have been booze there, but God never once condoned it. He told His people to not even look upon booze, let alone drink it and would NEVER come to Earth in the NT and contradict His own counsel to us in the OT.

God doesn’t contradict Himself. Neither does He condemn drinking in moderation.
SOME people shouldn’t drink.

SOME people need to control their eating or they’ll be guilty of gluttony.
Does God “forbid” food??

EVERYONE should limit sexual activity to confines marriage.
Does God “Forbid” sex??